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Instead of making a new thread I'll try here. Wondering if anyone has the new Kennedy 24 and can give me some thoughts on it. I'm a fan of small form factor attys and two posts but the Kennedy 24 just looks so damn good. I said I didn't need the Kennedy but some how I got a conformation email saying I had purchased it, not sure how it happened but yeah...any input is welcomed.
 
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Man I'm excited about the Phenotype, you all have been clamoring for 2 post rda's and this one looks real good to me, i'm surprised not more people are talking about it. Are you all a bunch of tootle puffers with those small chamber rda's or what's going on? LOL for $54 that thing was a steal. Can't believe there doesn't seem to be that much interest in it.

Two post designs are easier to build on and better air flow with fewer posts to restrict airflow. However the short attys have better flavor IMHO.
 

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Man I'm excited about the Phenotype, you all have been clamoring for 2 post RDA's and this one looks real good to me, i'm surprised not more people are talking about it. Are you all a bunch of tootle puffers with those small chamber RDA's or what's going on? LOL for $54 that thing was a steal. Can't believe there doesn't seem to be that much interest in it.
It's a larger RDA, while I'm no tootle puffer I know something like that couldn't give near good flavor as my Stro Mini or Stumpy. Not after clouds it's all about the flavor.
 

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So right now I have a magma but I'm looking to get more vapor. I want something that can single and dual coil and doesn't completely sacrifice flavor. I was strongly considering mxv4. But heard of leaking problems that were bad. I'm also looking at clones of dark horse. Plume veil and the mephisto
 

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Hmmm...dunno, but I can tell you that if RDA manufacturers start doing what mod makers began doing (20x1 threading anyone?) and saying, like, this top cap will fit x, y, z...we could be on the brink of a new aspect of customization! I was thrilled to find out that the Vector top cap fit, so nicely, the Stumpy base that I was a bit confused that this was not a selling point. But I couldn't wait to tell everyone! I mean, since new top caps are all the rage now, but it's JUST one top cap to fit ONE deck, why not sell a whole RDA as also compatible with another. Seems like it makes dollars and sense. See what I did there? LOL
You are right on point here...
I have fancied the idea of making an hybrid 2 post squonker with a few cap options (small conic chamber, top airflow, side airflow, small directed airflow, etc) to suit everyone.

I think the future of rdas should be that, get the deck you want and the top call you want

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You are right on point here...
I have fancied the idea of making an hybrid 2 post squonker with a few cap options (small conic chamber, top airflow, side airflow, small directed airflow, etc) to suit everyone.

I think the future of rdas should be that, get the deck you want and the top call you want

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Right on. It would be one way to keep the customer sticking, in no small way, with the one maker. Buy a couple bases and then customize, customix, customatch!
 

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It's a larger RDA, while I'm no tootle puffer I know something like that couldn't give near good flavor as my Stro Mini or Stumpy. Not after clouds it's all about the flavor.

Yea, I think it depends how you like to vape and what device your using. For me I'm not a fan of the tiny atty's at all because I vape at higher wattage and even with claptons sometimes and the tiny chambers just can't keep up with the heat nor the vapor and it ends up tasting off and is just a hot undesirable vape. For me personally I get much better flavor and a nice warm vape out of more conventional chamber sizes, you can have both clouds and flavor, the clouds do contain the flavor after all. I know flavor is all subjective but for me the best flavor comes along with those thick dense clouds that just linger in your mouth even after you exhale.
 

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So right now I have a magma but I'm looking to get more vapor. I want something that can single and dual coil and doesn't completely sacrifice flavor. I was strongly considering mxv4. But heard of leaking problems that were bad. I'm also looking at clones of dark horse. Plume veil and the mephisto

I am a flavor chaser too

Magma is good but limited airflow.

For flavor I am a huge fan of the short little attys.

Especially the Rogue and Freakshow Mini.

I have heard great things about the Velocity and Aromamizer but no credivle opinion

I love the Rogue because the air flow is at the top and less likely to leak than the attys with the airflow at the bottom. It was only $8.99 on eBay.

I am also looking at the Orion v2 but haven't found one yet. It has airflow from the too another top airflow atty is the Sapor.
 

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I am a flavor chaser too

Magma is good but limited airflow.

For flavor I am a huge fan of the short little attys.

Especially the Rogue and Freakshow Mini.

I have heard great things about the Velocity and Aromamizer but no credivle opinion

I love the Rogue because the air flow is at the top and less likely to leak than the attys with the airflow at the bottom. It was only $8.99 on eBay.

I am also looking at the Orion v2 but haven't found one yet. It has airflow from the too another top airflow atty is the Sapor.
I thought top airflow always meant weaker flavor and more clouds? Like I said I won't both. I've heard good things of the derringer but idk if the vp would be that great on such a short atty
 

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I thought top airflow always meant weaker flavor and more clouds? Like I said I won't both. I've heard good things of the derringer but idk if the vp would be that great on such a short atty
Have you ever owned a short atty before? I'm actually a huge fan of short attys, if it's short I more then likely want it, whether I buy it is another story. I feel like if you haven't tried one, you should definitely give it a go, I think you'd be surprised.

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If u guys are all flavor chasers I'm surprised no body brings up the darang rda. Top airflow holes that travel through the rda to the bottom and go right in front of the coil. Then a super small chamber and super flavor. It's one of my favorite flavor Atties. Never see much on it tho. And it never leaks ever

Jk Vapes has the authentic on sale for 100. I have the clone tho
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So right now I have a magma but I'm looking to get more vapor. I want something that can single and dual coil and doesn't completely sacrifice flavor. I was strongly considering mxv4. But heard of leaking problems that were bad. I'm also looking at clones of dark horse. Plume veil and the mephisto

Some attys with top airflow works amazing. Others not so good. All depends on the designer.

I am rocking on the el cheapo Rogue and it gives great flavor.

Think of the Rogue as an upside down Freakshow Mini..

It has two airflow openings do the build between the height of the positive and negative pins and position the coil(s) directly under the airflow.

Fire the mod vapors are released inhsle and the airflow comes down with the vapors and up the drip tip. Almost a leak proof atty with flavor every bit as good as the FS Mini without leaking all the time making a mess.
 

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Have you ever owned a short atty before? I'm actually a huge fan of short attys, if it's short I more then likely want it, whether I buy it is another story. I feel like if you haven't tried one, you should definitely give it a go, I think you'd be surprised.

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People never appreciate short attys until they try them.

I avoided them lime the plague until I tasted the difference between the Magma and the FS Mini.

The farther the vapor has to travel before entering your mouth the more flavor you lose.

IMHO height is a flavor killer
 
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People never appreciate short attys until they try them.

I avoided them lime the plague until I tasted the difference between the Magma and the FS Mini.

The farther the vapor has to travel before entering your mouth the more flavor you lose.

IMHO height is a flavor killer
I agree, I for one am not a fan of tall or big anything when it comes to vaping. I mean honestly who wants to carry about a huge brick of a box mod, a lightaber of a mech, and an atty that's damn near as tall as the mech it's sitting on. No thanks! I never understood for the life of me when companies do this when it's clear that there's extra room to be cut out. Like the subzero mod, beautiful beautiful mod, but it's too big for no reason. The vulcan, again huge lol and let's add the heat sink adapter, makes sense. Things like the smpl, the derringer and bambino, and dos equis are the things I go after of course IMO. I just don't see what people see in huge flashy shoe box sized vape gear.

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People never appreciate short attys until they try them.

I avoided them lime the plague until I tasted the difference between the Magma and the FS Mini.

The farther the vapor has to travel before entering your mouth the more flavor you lose.

IMHO height is a flavor killer
I could be wrong here but I think the vape travel doesn't affect much per se, the issue is the turbulence it crates along the way condensing the vapor before it reaches the mouth. If you have s long aerodynamic passage that concentrates the whole cloud on one point you will have a really dense flavor, that is where the domed caps come in

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I could be wrong here but I think the vape travel doesn't affect much per se, the issue is the turbulence it crates along the way condensing the vapor before it reaches the mouth. If you have s long aerodynamic passage that concentrates the whole cloud on one point you will have a really dense flavor, that is where the domed caps come in

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You could be right, I know more about the small ones then the big ones. But the small attys definitely have the dense hot vapor. But on the other hand you could technically achieve that regardless with a tall atty, I just feel the tallness of it seems to cool it more, or course in my experience.

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I think it's just the bigger chamber allows more airflow/circulation for the coils, The tiny attys are nice for low wattage the derringer was like the only atty I could actually get a warm vape out of when I was using my temp control mods it worked well for that but vice versa on my hex ohms it's just way too small and gets super hot whereas a little bit bigger chamber like the aeolusv2, tugboat even that Baal v2 its a small chamber but theres enough airflow that I can vape 60-70w and its just a nice warm vape.

I think most people just vape at too low of a wattage with the bigger chambers and you end up inhaling more air than vapor hence the flavor loss. The flavor comes from the density of the vapor and its just as possible to get great flavor out of a normal sized chamber as long as your vaping at higher wattage in order to get the optimum air to vapor for your liking. It's totally possible to have clouds and flavor at the same time. I never understood the whole cloud chaser vs flavor chaser distinction seems like a better distinction would be high wattage atty's vs low wattage atty's.
 

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So right now I have a magma but I'm looking to get more vapor. I want something that can single and dual coil and doesn't completely sacrifice flavor. I was strongly considering mxv4. But heard of leaking problems that were bad. I'm also looking at clones of dark horse. Plume veil and the mephisto

If u guys are all flavor chasers I'm surprised no body brings up the darang rda. Top airflow holes that travel through the rda to the bottom and go right in front of the coil. Then a super small chamber and super flavor. It's one of my favorite flavor Atties. Never see much on it tho. And it never leaks ever

Jk Vapes has the authentic on sale for 100. I have the clone tho
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Sorry but had never heard of the Darang. I found a clone on eBay and will check it out.
 
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