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  1. Master Rawl

    Master Rawl Full Member Verified Member

    So I've been vaping for a week and a half now. I bought a Tornado Tank from Totally Wicked, which came with 18,11, and an 8 milligram tobacco juices. I also ordered an 11 mg strawberry from them. After vaping these different levels I decided the 18mg gave me the best throat hit and feel of a real cigarette. Thinking this, I ordered 24mg and 18mg liquids from Vapure. My problem is, these new liquids don't give me any throat hit and I feel as if I'm not getting as much nicotine from them as I was with the lower Totally Wicked juices. The Vapure liquids are 100% VG, which I now know give less throat hit and flavor, but shouldn't I still be getting the higher levels of nicotine? So my question is, what liquid can I buy that will give me the closest feeling to inhaling a real cigarette? The flavors I've liked from all the liquids I've tried, the thing I'm looking for is the throat hit and fix that a real cig gave. Thanks for any advice.
     
  2. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2009
    USA
    I have been searching for this since I began using my PV. I don't care about it tasting or looking like a cig but the inhalation feeling is the big thing for me. I've had that inhalation feeling intermittently but I can't seem to replicate that experience consistently. I was just updating a thread of mine talking about this issue.

    I will be following your thread to see if you get any suggestions that may work for me too.
     
  3. Infernal2

    Infernal2 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2010
    The Oil Coast, AL
    The Backwoods Brew Tobaccos are pretty darn close especially in flavor. I've heard alot of good reviews of Boba's Bounty by AVE (and consequently have ordered some). PureCig Tobacco has a spicy undertone that seems to translate well to that feeling of smoking a real one.

    The percentage of pg to vg while important, is only a portion of the overall system and not to discourage you, but I've found that juice fed or dripped LR 306s give the most approximate throat hit and consistency to my memories of a cigarette. However, its been over a year since I've had a cigarette so that may be just memories.
     
  4. redryder1

    redryder1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    DIY juices at 80/20 PG/VG @ ~24mg nicotine. Flavors from Bluemist, or perfumers apprentice. As far as consistent taste V4L juices are consistent, and are cheap. 30ml for 10.95 and its about 200 to choose from. Im using an EgoT system too, so a juice supply is good to have. Its a juice eater. But I love it. My KR808's are here for backup and my wife uses them too
     
  5. dormouse

    dormouse ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 31, 2010
    Pennsylvania
    VG cuts TH and since it buffers against the harshness of nicotine on the skin - who know? Maybe it could impede absorption too?

    I like 70pg/30vg juices, or 80pg/20vg for more TH
     
  6. wv2win

    wv2win ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2009
    GA by way of WV
    98% of throat hit is from the warmth of the vapor which requires more power and higher nic strength. The best throat hit comes with 5 volt and variable volt PV's. Everything else that effects throat hit is in the remaining 2% range which means it has a much smaller impact.
     
  7. Master Rawl

    Master Rawl Full Member Verified Member

    Thanks for the replies. I'm gathering that maybe what I need is 100% pg, 18mg plus nicotine, and a high voltage PV like the Provape 1. I tell you, it gets expensive starting out with vaping, but it would have been more so without this forum. Thanks again.
     
  8. Turkish

    Turkish Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 14, 2011
    New York
    I second Infernal2's comments. And I wish to reiterate an important point that stands out in those comments: each of us tries to approximate our vaping preferences to our closest smoking memories, so each of us will evidently have different experiences in this regard- even with the same flavors. For me, I get a parallel to my Camel Lights memories from BWB's 18mg Casablanca or V4L's 18mg Wow Camel via a Riva (with LEDs ;)
     
  9. keelalagirl55

    keelalagirl55 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2011
    A few things you can try if you want the vg....a product called Qhit or some pga.....there are several vendors that carry the qhit.....off the top of my head comes ecig express, but it is made I believe by Flavor Art.....
     
  10. rayquitsmoking

    rayquitsmoking Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 6, 2010
    michigan
    regular tobacco 16mg cartos that come with the 51 duo kit is absolutely the best cig flavor i ever tried. to bad i cant find it in a bottle.on a scale from 1-10 it gets.. throat hit 10 taste 10 and vapor 11. we have to find out what kind of juice this is ..it smells like a sweet nutty Cinnamon and is dark and thick so it must be vg based. is there anybody who knows what this juice is or can help me find it.we must find it.
     
  11. gigipark

    gigipark Full Member

    I think everyone starts out trying to approximate the experience they were used to with analog cigarettes. And yes, there will be experimenting with the types of PVs you use (or you may collect a couple - a good one for travel, and another you prefer at home). But, my vaping friends who convinced me to do this in the first place and many on this forum seem pretty consistent in saying that after you do this for awhile and try different flavors and products you won't want to approximate that experience at all. There's a whole vaping experience to be had that is ultimately way better than analog cigarettes and if you keep at it you probably won't be missing them at all!
     
  12. wv2win

    wv2win ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2009
    GA by way of WV
    You are on the mark. To get closer to the "inhaled feel" of an analog, a PV such as the Provape is a good choice. PG over VG and as a new vaper, I would suggest 24mg for at least a while. But if you follow the forum, the strong trend is to variable volt PV's such as the Darwin from nhaler.com or the ProVari. Better throat hit and much more flexibility.
     
  13. Pneathery

    Pneathery Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Surfside Beach SC
    If you are leaning towards a variable volt, check this put, I've been researching them for a few days and bang for the buck, you can't beat it.
    Little Sister Variable Voltage
    It's $65 not bad for a VV
     
  14. wv2win

    wv2win ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2009
    GA by way of WV
    I've never used Ken's Lil Sister but I have one of his 5 volt PV's. They work quite well and Ken really stands behind his products.
     
  15. apexified

    apexified Full Member

    Dec 10, 2010
    Olympia
    I've gotten some longtime smokers to cough when they tried VB's Cafe Mocha (24mg 70/30 PG/VG) on my LR Cisco... It's pretty harsh when you're not ready for it and I think they all hit it a little harder than necessary. It's my go to juice for TH now.
     
  16. Pneathery

    Pneathery Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Surfside Beach SC
    Im actually looking for a VV juice box, I've only seen one Ali'i makes one......a little on the pricey side for me. But Kens boxes look good, one of them is also being sold as a refurb, so instead of $75 it's $60 I think it's the little brother or something. Going on three weeks with my tank system, and it's starting to show its weaknesses to me. I'm getting four times the vapor out of my 510Mega atty now as I am out of any of my tank carts, I might try the denture cleaning tablet cleaning method on one of the three and see if it helps it out. But I'm really leaning to a juice box (after seeing the reo's), and want the best of both worlds VV and bottom feeder.
     
  17. Silent Soldier

    Silent Soldier Super Member ECF Veteran

    It's just a matter of experimentation and trying different juices and PG/VG/nic ratio's to find what works best for you. Best advice would be to try sampler packs of varying ratios and strengths. That way if you get something that's too weak or you don't like you won't be stuck with a bunch of it.

    Also, seems like your in my neck of the woods, it's always nice to see fellow Floridians in here. Especially ones so close. Welcome to ECF and vaping!
     
  18. mlinky

    mlinky ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2010
    Kentucky
    Pneathery, you know the REO Grand will use battery set-ups for 5v, 6v and 7.4v? Not vv, but you can have a lot of fun with different voltage/atty combos.
     
  19. Master Rawl

    Master Rawl Full Member Verified Member

    Thanks for the advice and the warm welcome. Do we have any vaping groups in our area?
     
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