Really harsh hits

[Javichu]

I'm using the el patron explosivos

Yes I agree...it's either unregulated or it senses the ohm rating of the coil and adjusts the wattage accordingly.

My advice is to get something else that you can regulate. Here's a good option...

Geek Vape Aegis Legend Kit 200W Aegis Legend Mod with 4ml Aero Mesh Sub Ohm Tank

Agree with Charlie here,best to get a good mod where you can use any tank you want,that way even if your vaping habits change later on you still got a good mod to use.

No, a dry hit tastes like burnt cotton. You'll know a dry hit when it happens. I think the issue here is, and you said it, your first hit was pretty rough. That's because you're inhaling something that 1) isnt cigarette smoke and 2) something you've never inhaled before. It takes a bit to get used to. I would not recommend DL as a starting point for a new vaper.

Yup,agree with Coyote.

Since you're new to vaping your body has to go thru an ''adjustment'' perios so i think like Coyote,you feeling the ''newbie'' effects of vaping.
That sensation should be over pretty soon,depends on each person so i can't really give you a time frame,sorry.

But as Coyote said it might be better to start with an MTL type atomizer,it is much closer to a cigarette when it comes to vaping.

Since there is no wattage control on the device you bought i don't think you could use it for MTL,but if you're interested in giving it a try let us know,lots of helpful and knowledgeable folks here that can steer you in the right direction.

 

[Territoo]

The trouble is this is a starter kit aimed at a new vaper which is DL. He's either got to work with the kit he has or scrap it and start over. He's been given advice on what kit to buy if he decides to scrap it, but he may need to work with what he's got.

 

[Ddro79]

You might try nic salts. It may be hard to find in 6mg/ml, but I'm sure if you look you can find some. If not, one trick is to buy the juice in 12mg/ml nic salts and the same flavor in 0mg/ml and mix them 50/50.

What is the diffrence between nic and nic salts?

 

[Ddro79]

Agree with Charlie here,best to get a good mod where you can use any tank you want,that way even if your vaping habits change later on you still got a good mod to use.




Yup,agree with Coyote.

Since you're new to vaping your body has to go thru an ''adjustment'' perios so i think like Coyote,you feeling the ''newbie'' effects of vaping.
That sensation should be over pretty soon,depends on each person so i can't really give you a time frame,sorry.

But as Coyote said it might be better to start with an MTL type atomizer,it is much closer to a cigarette when it comes to vaping.

Since there is no wattage control on the device you bought i don't think you could use it for MTL,but if you're interested in giving it a try let us know,lots of helpful and knowledgeable folks here that can steer you in the right direction.

It where the first couple of hits that where really rough and it got better after like 10 hits but then I stopped for about two hours and got the same effect again and its really unpleasant.

 

[Territoo]

It's the formulation of the nicotine. Nic salts gives a smoother throat hit. It's generally used in those who use nic at higher concentrations which is why you might have a hard time finding it at 6mg/ml. It shouldn't be hard to find it at 12mg/ml and find the same juice at 0mg/ml though.

 

[charlie1465]

What is the diffrence between nic and nic salts?

Standard NIC gets into your system quickly but remains constant from a level point of view but NIC salts spike quickly then plateau out so you tend to get a bigger buzz initially with salts.
Hope that makes sense?

 

[charlie1465]

Have a look at this if you're interested....

Trying my homemade Nic salts for the first time...36mg/ml strawberry.

 

[charlie1465]

NB. I vape at 18mg NIC so hence the 36mg NIC salts. You generally need double the strength NIC salts to your usual standard NIC.

If you're just switching from cigs to vaping I'd go with quite a high standard NIC to start with then drop it later. Depends how much you smoked but if you were a one to two packet a day smoker then I'd go for 18mg. Watch out for NIC sickness though. If you start feeling nauseous then give it a rest for a while. This especially happens with high wattage/low ohm coils.

Hope that helps

 

[Ddro79]

NB. I vape at 18mg NIC so hence the 36mg NIC salts. You generally need double the strength NIC salts to your usual standard NIC.

If you're just switching from cigs to vaping I'd go with quite a high standard NIC to start with then drop it later. Depends how much you smoked but if you were a one to two packet a day smoker then I'd go for 18mg. Watch out for NIC sickness though. If you start feeling nauseous then give it a rest for a while. This especially happens with high wattage/low ohm coils.

Hope that helps

So if I understand correctly if I want to use nic salts I need 12mg if I use 6mg normal nic?

 

[Opinionated]

Hi guys,
I am very new to vaping (have been smoking cigarettes for about a year now) so I don't know much about it. Just got my first vape (eleaf ijust 3)
So I primed the coil and filled the 2ml tank with juice and let it sit for 45 mins. So as I take my first hit it is sooo harsh to the throat. And I don't understand why. It doesn't taste burnt or anything. So I thought I may had a defect coil so I got the other one and primed it filled the tank and again waited for about 45 mins. As I take my first hit again directly welcomed with the harsh feeling in my throat even when I hit it from a small distance.
Can someone please help me?

As others have mentioned, the coil you use is what determines your wattage on that battery.

What you'll need to do is buy a MTL tank like the Innokin Zenith which has a variety of coils you can choose from, from the .5ohm plexus coils on up.. In making that purchase and pairing it with the ijust battery your juice won't be so harsh because you'll be vaping at lower wattages...

Understandably you probably don't want to make another purchase, but it's all you can do to effectively change the way this vapes for you, because you need higher ohm coils than this Ello tank offers..

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

You definitely can change the wattage. If you've got the instructions read through to see how!

You may have the wattage locked. Try clicking the fire button three times quickly and look for a little padlock on the screen

Nope.



The Ijust 3 Pro is adjustable, though, from 30-75W in 5W increments.

 

[Superuser187]

You said u are a new vaper....so if u are new and u vape 6mg nicotine juice at 0.2ohm 80watts or something I don't wonder why u find it harsh on the throat .
Also did u mention what kind of juice u use in terms of VG and PG percentage...
Cause if for example is 50% / 50% juice then yeah gonna be harsh

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

"Dry" hits and "burnt" hits are 2 different things.

Burnt hits are achieved when the wick material is noticeably burned due to being too dry. This will cause you to inhale smoke and cause you to choke and cough, most likely.

Dry hits are when the wick material is too dry and you get a noticeably bad taste (for cotton, it has a cotton flavor), but not dry enough for the wick material to actually burn and cause smoking.

There is also an in-between where your wick has enough juice to vaporize, but there is a little burning going on, too. Not enough to make you cough, but enough to create a scratchy or rough feeling in your throat.

I rely on dry hit taste so that I know when my full metal RTAs (no glass, can't see juice level) is running low. I can usually take several dry hits without getting a burnt hit. Obviously a dry hit will turn into a burnt hit if you keep vaping lol.

 

[Superuser187]

When I was 3months into vaping and new to trying direct lung I couldn't even vape restricted direct lung at 30watts with 3mg juice and 70% VG.... it felt toooo much vapor and I thought I would never get used to it..just saying

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Also did u mention what kind
of juice u use in terms of VG and PG percentage...

He said he's using el patron explosivos, which seems to be a 30%PG eliquid
El Patron Explosivos E-liquid - VapeKings.uk

 

[Superuser187]

He said he's using el patron explosivos, which seems to be a 30%PG eliquid
El Patron Explosivos E-liquid - VapeKings.uk

Ok so at least the juice is proper for direct lung then I guess only higher ohm coils could make it better if there are available for his atomizer....or just get another mod or whole kit better I guess

 

[Superuser187]

Maybe the juice isn't joking that is explosive hmmmmmm

 

[Territoo]

So if I understand correctly if I want to use nic salts I need 12mg if I use 6mg normal nic?

Not necessarily. If 6mg/ml is doing it for you with nic base, then 6mg/ml should be all you need in the nic salts. If you are chain vaping, ie. Having to hit on the vape a lot to satisfy your cravings, then you might consider upping to 12mg/ml.

 

[charlie1465]

It's definitely mostly the device. Everytime I've had a device which senses the ohm's of the coil it always puts the wattage at the high end of the coil range. It's defo necessary for the op to get another device....even with higher ohm coils the wattage will likely be too high... especially as he's starting out. Pretty important for him to have something he can work with

 

[vaper1960]

As I take my first hit again directly welcomed with the harsh feeling in my throat even when I hit it from a small distance.

You have been given some good advice (I would seriously consider a different device) What's got me is your comment "even when I hit it from a small distance" I hope you realize you have to draw (suck) air through the coil to keep it cool. Vape devices don't work correctly on their own (like just hitting the fire button and expecting it to shoot out vapor) It doesn't work that way. I had a friend who wanted to try mine and he kept opening his mouth and holding the vape near it expecting it to shoot out vapor into his mouth. Fried a new coil... last time I let him near my vape device! There is also the issue of airfow (most tanks have an adjustment for that) DL requires good airflow. I have one of those tanks (a friend gave it to me) It's full blown DL... you may not like MTL but at least consider "restricted DL" Honestly. neither the mod (battery part) or the atomizer (tank) you have are a good choice when just starting out with vaping. Plenty of people here to give you tips on what to get (and I understand if you are low budget.. now worries) Eventually, you can find a use for that setup so keep it (but please get something else for now)