Really, really, REALLY disappointed in M201

[Doug_Dread]

I found an M201 under the Xmas tree from the wife, not a complete surprise I must admit.

I am however, very, very disappointed in it, can hardly get any vapour out of it, not even by dripping. I charged the 1st battery overnight and tried it out this morning. I can hear the big atty snap, crackle and popping like a dragster engine trying to start, but only a weak, flavourless, wispy vapour comes through. The liquid in the cart and atty is cooked almost immediately from clear to a bright red-orange colour and tastes gross. Cannot possibly be the same device as shown in the videos on this forum, nor the wonder VP some have described here. The hard pull seems to indicate a constricted airflow through the atty, also indicated by how quickly it becomes too hot to touch.

Got a manual USB passthrough as well and this is just as useless, just cooks the juice faster.

The passthrough does however, work very well with an 801 Stick atty attached, but this trick doesn’t work with the M201 batteries because the pull/airflow is so easy and smooth, the auto battery doesn’t activate.

I’m facing some embarrassment too, I enthusiastically recommended an M201 to somebody, based on information and reports here and now I have to please explain why it performs worse than their previous Njoy penstyle. They’re so ...... they want ME to give them their money back.

I got a spare atty with it, but that behaves the same, so nothing wrong with either atty. Gave the atties enough juice and time to prime, even flooded one and had to clean it out, so priming's not the problem. I have from the dealer that it is a genuine Smoore.

Any advise, SA and/or international, that will get this seemingly useless thing to work, will be highly appreciated.

 

[rejoice]

This does not surprise me. I got a m201 and it has very low vaper.
Got the m402 at the same time and it vapes great.

I too want some kind of answer to this.

 

[Doug_Dread]

I’ve lived with the M201 for a few days now and it’s going much better. What I’ve learned is that the M201 atty is too powerful straight out the box, hence the burning and lack of vapour. As it’s run in over a couple of days it becomes more subdued, like taming a wild animal, and starts producing vapour instead of just burning.

So, after a couple of days:

Took time to get used to the hard pull, but the necessary muscles are building up now and it’s getting more comfortable.
On battery, the vapour is less than my Stick, but has a denser, warmer, more flavourful RY4 taste, fast becoming my favourite vape!
On passthrough: Not enough vapour or flavour. Too hot and too harsh, throat hit is more a throat burn and makes me cough, and it burns my nose too. Not nice. If I take an atty from battery to passthough, it stops vaping and if I put it back on battery, it starts vaping again.
Passthrough works much better with a less powerful 801 Stick atty, especially for dripping. The Stick atty I’m using is pretty dead and can’t be used in the Stick anymore, but still works fine in the M201 passthrough so the Stick attys get a useful life extension. This is how I will use the passthrough from now on, so it’s not wasted.

Now that I have sussed out the M201, I’ll coach my friend when she gets back from holiday, so that situation should be fixable too.

Ultimate verdict: I like it a lot on battery as it comes in the starter kit. I would not have bought the passthrough had I known how harsh it would be.

 

[stephenrowley]

Hi Doug,

Sorry to hear about your problem, you might want to approach the person that sold it to you and ask him if he can send you a new atomizer, what most people fail to remember is that most electronic cigarettes can be a bit of a hit and miss, as a reseller of electronic cigarettes I can tell you that if you take 10 electronic cigarette all the same brand and from the same manufacturer most of them will not perform the same, the main reason I have found is that they are hand assembled well at least I think so,so there are a few variables that when assembled can change the overall performance of the product, which is why when we have this type of complaint we just give the purchaser a new atomizer or two to try out and if this does not fix the problem we take the product back and refund them and sign it off to just plain bad luck.

Which is one of the main reasons we are switching over to the cartomizers in our starter packs and selling a normal atomizer as an accessory should they require one, we have found that our new cartomizers are very consistent and produce a good amount of vapour all of the time.

You might also want to try blocking the air flow slot on the side of your atomizer when you take a drag this may or may not help you.

 

[Doug_Dread]

Thanks Stephen,

I have 2 atomisers and both seem fine. On battery, they are working very nicely now, a lot less vapour than a Twisp Stick, but better quality vapour. It's the M201 Passthough that doesn't want to work, the power seems to be there but not much vapour and it tastes bad.

 

[Heracleum]

I have a M201, bought in Poland actually, from a Smoore local reseller.
It's my very first e-cig so I don't have other measures of comparison. By the way I loved it since the first puffs, plus I quitted analogs immediately after a few days.
The only negative remark is that sometimes, when one battery needs to be recharged, I put on the second battery.. and the first puffs taste horrible, like the new fresh battery burns too fast (as I guess you pointed out). When this happens, I let it rest for a while, take a few puffs (not inhaling) and it tastes great again.
I registered in this forum exactly to understand better why/whether this happens to other m201 users.

 

[Doug_Dread]

M201 is up to speed now and has almost totally replaced my Stick as my main vape due to the much more pleasurable and flavourful vape. Thanks to this, I feel even safer from the dreaded analog ghost now, which is becoming a distant bad memory. The analog ghost still used to hover in the background, ready to pounce, while I was vaping on the Stick.

I returned the rubbish M201 passthrough and swapped it for another battery and atty, so all is well in the world atm.

 

[Splat]

M201 is up to speed now and has almost totally replaced my Stick as my main vape due to the much more pleasurable and flavourful vape. Thanks to this, I feel even safer from the dreaded analog ghost now, which is becoming a distant bad memory. The analog ghost still used to hover in the background, ready to pounce, while I was vaping on the Stick.

I returned the rubbish M201 passthrough and swapped it for another battery and atty, so all is well in the world atm.

Doug

Have you perhaps tried the 201 atty in the stick? I have heard that it will fit so am interested in feedback if this is true.

 

[Doug_Dread]

Yes, the M201 and Stick atties are mechanically interchangeable, but whether there's a benefit to swapping them over, would come down to personal preference.

The Stick atty has a very light draw already and when fitted to an M201 bat, the draw becomes so light it doesn't activate the M201's auto-bat, unless you suck with serious vigour. Perfect for tailpiping though, if you're into that, I'm not.

The Stick normally runs quite hot, which probably is what destroys the flavour, making it a generally dry, sometimes acrid vape. This effect is probably compounded by the atty being inside the Stick, trapping the heat. Installing the hotter M201 atty makes for loads of snap, crackle and popping from it, good vapour but again, a lot less flavour. Once over-heated in the Stick, the M201 atty needs a wipe out with paper towel to remove burnt liquid and then takes about an hour to flavour-up on it's own bat again. I suspect an M201 atty will not last very long in a Stick.

I reckon what the Stick needs is a cooler atty e.g. a 510 conversion, rather than a hotter atty.

 

[Splat]

Yes, the M201 and Stick atties are mechanically interchangeable, but whether there's a benefit to swapping them over, would come down to personal preference.

The Stick atty has a very light draw already and when fitted to an M201 bat, the draw becomes so light it doesn't activate the M201's auto-bat, unless you suck with serious vigour. Perfect for tailpiping though, if you're into that, I'm not.

The Stick normally runs quite hot, which probably is what destroys the flavour, making it a generally dry, sometimes acrid vape. This effect is probably compounded by the atty being inside the Stick, trapping the heat. Installing the hotter M201 atty makes for loads of snap, crackle and popping from it, good vapour but again, a lot less flavour. Once over-heated in the Stick, the M201 atty needs a wipe out with paper towel to remove burnt liquid and then takes about an hour to flavour-up on it's own bat again. I suspect an M201 atty will not last very long in a Stick.

I reckon what the Stick needs is a cooler atty e.g. a 510 conversion, rather than a hotter atty.

thx for the your comments I love the functionality of the stick (USB charging) so can't see myself changing anytime soon (even my SD hardly comes out anymore. I'm using a 901 atty (with adaptor) which gives a lot more flavour than the 801/stick attys.

I may just pick up a 201 atty to try out on the stick...if it gives up, then so be it.

 

[Doug_Dread]

Where did you get the Stick conversion adaptors?

 

[Splat]

Where did you get the Stick conversion adaptors?

I bought it from Janty Europe (link through from Jantyworld.com to the Jany Europe shop. Cost around 12 Euros which is pricey compared to the same adaptor being sold by Heavens-Gift but the shipping was VERY quick. It works like a bomb!

 

[Vaporista]

The thing about the smoore M201 atty is that it takes about 48 hours to wake the hell up. You need to burn off the packing primer too. I just vape it and blow it out without inhaling then I fill the carts.
The Negatives about the m201 are that these attys burn out at a faster rate (under 4 weeks) so get spares. They also run hot quick.
I went back recently to the 801 and the draw was like driving a rolls royce after driving a Tazz. My opinion? It's the juice strength that makes or breaks the experience. 36mg is the ultimate.
Even Stephens brilliant 4081 with Cartomizers give the same or better draw as the m201 and the 801. You can refill these too.

 

[Doug_Dread]

I lost the first atty in 5 days, but the dealer swapped it out. The second atty is approaching 3 weeks and going strong. The M201, once broken in gives warm, fuzzy, pleasurable feelings and gives rise to a wonderful contentment. Hate/love relationship, hated it in the first couple of days but loved it thereafter.

 

[Doug_Dread]

Damn!! Second M201 atty died after 20 days and I had to plug in my spare. I seriously dread this event as the M201 atty is a biatch to kickstart. It's nearing 48 hours of battling to get a decent vape out of it and cleaning the orange gunk out of the cart. It's only now starting to work.

I swapped out the dead one with the dealer this morning, I hope I never need it, but of course I shall, and the battle will start all over again. This is a serious drawback with this device.

 

[Vaporista]

Damn!! Second M201 atty died after 20 days

That's about my average on that atty too. Any more than that I look at as a bonus. One dealer says I'm abusing them, I say they get so damn hot that they have a shorter life especially if you vape it nonstop.
I ordered a four pack about a month ago and I'm down to my last spare and that's a poor track record compared to the 801 atty, but the vape is just better in the m201. It's far smoother draw in the 801 and just as much throat hit if you drip the 801, but I don't like dripping so much as it's less economical so M201 is for me with carts...
Something you might want to look at if you have the auto m201...sometimes when I place it next to me in the car when I'm driving the vibrations will trigger the switch on so it will cut out after a few mins.
God knows how many times the atty has activated without my knowing.

 

[Matuka]

I have just bought a M201 and found the same problem with the atty switching itself on when I travelled with it on the dashboard - got as hot as hell!