Really?

[Jim_ MDP]

Quitting smoking is a goal, it has become a joke to some.

The numbers are still growing in both camps, but... for many (myself even, to a point) it's now a hobby more than a cessation aid.

But I'm a wuss... never been above ~120w, even with the RX.
Don't even have a build at the moment that could handle it.
Maybe 95w, if I pushed the 0.19 dual that's sitting in the Velocity.

 

[BreSha6869]

I might vape at 100-120W for S&G's from time to time, but NOBODY will regularly or comfortably vape at 300W.Sorry, ain't gonna happen.

 

[MMW]

Contest.

 

[Bunnykiller]

just a mere 3 yrs ago everyone was wondering why we needed more than 20W....
15W was pleanty ...

 

[jwbnyc]

Seen this but haven't seen too much thank god



300w pffffft

Nice stereo.

 

[Ryedan]

just a mere 3 yrs ago everyone was wondering why we needed more than 20W....
15W was pleanty ...

Yup and four years ago everyone was wondering why anyone needed more than around 13 watts because 10 was plenty.

Then again, who needs more than around 80 HP in a car? OTOH, having 200 ponies under the hood sure is nice once in a while

 

[Jim_ MDP]

just a mere 3 yrs ago everyone was wondering why we needed more than 20W....
15W was pleanty ...

The comparison breaks down after a point though.

Wattage limitations then were probably atty/coil driven as much as anything.
Now though... we've passed the point of easily delivering more vapor than an average person can hold in their lungs, even ones not ummm... treated to 40 years of combustion.

Can an atty be made to deliver even more... tolerably?
If so, than even higher wattage mods will serve a market, as well as drive development forward and prices down. Otherwise... just a novelty. I'm skeptical, but we'll see.

 

[beckdg]

What?

Ummmm,these are human beings we're talking about right?

Dual usage...

Cheese grater and...

Dishwasher.




Git Dat girl a tall boy, some flips flops and a diamond engagement ring, STAT!

(Despite what some might think, they work much better when pregnant with soft souls under their feet instead of just linoleum... just sayin')

Tapatyped

 

[IMFire3605]

Well, considering there are here in the valley a lot of talk of people all glossy eyed at the few 2s, 3s, and 4s max LiPo boxes that can potentially, "Potentially" the key word, crank out close to 1700watts, and these people regularly use these at very hot builds. Thus the usage of their Mason and larger 40mm attys, doing 1 to 2 second pulls and cloud comping with them. 300plus watts is mainly for the younger crowd that are young, dum, and full of...... that have to show what they are lacking upstairs as well as downstairs. Have my 15watt, 20watt, 30watt, 50watt, 75watt, 150watt, and 200watt devices yes, but even on the 150 and 200 watt devices I am still not pushing above 70watts on a regular basis.

300 and 350watt available devices now, I am like many, I'm going to sit back and just let the market pass me by this round until the next true innovation, say more refined TC or better coil systems like these newer ceramic coils starting to land on the market.

 

[beckdg]

I understand the need for MORE power to vape with.
It makes you way more vaped up!!

But I think people should focus their priorities on MORE firepower.
Bigger guns make people way deader.

I think I'd spend my money on bigger guns before bigger watts.
I wanna make sure the zombies are SERIOUSLY dead.

I just want to see the kick back on that thing when fired in that position.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

The reason Evolv capped the DNA40 at 40 watts had to have been for battery safety.

Next breath explain the DNA 200.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

The comparison breaks down after a point though.

Wattage limitations then were probably atty/coil driven as much as anything.
Now though... we've passed the point of easily delivering more vapor than an average person can hold in their lungs, even ones not ummm... treated to 40 years of combustion.

Can an atty be made to deliver even more... tolerably?
If so, than even higher wattage mods will serve a market, as well as drive development forward and prices down. Otherwise... just a novelty. I'm skeptical, but we'll see.

There's a guy on Youtube with an 8 or so battery mod and a 30mm atty pushing like 1200 watts regularly.

It will go there...

And that's where cloud comps will go.

And that's what those folks will do regularly.

And they'll tolerate it just fine.

But they'll have to listen to their televisions and guess where they are in the room as the glow will be coming from every direction... and a good flashlight will really ruin their day.

Tapatyped

 

[jwbnyc]

I just want to see the kick back on that thing when fired in that position.

Tapatyped

Someone's going to lose an eye.

 

[beckdg]

Someone's going to lose an eye.

Or an entire forehead.[emoji38]

Tapatyped

 

[rhelton]

Vaping at 200W all day is like flooring the gas pedal whenever you drive anywhere in your car.

I know I cant image doing that all the time pretty crazy.

 

[rhelton]

Contest.

Yah thats the one I was talking about

 

[Jim_ MDP]

But they'll have to listen to their televisions and guess where they are in the room as the glow will be coming from every direction... and a good flashlight will really ruin their day.

I expect you've got a point.

Next breath explain the DNA 200.
Tapatyped

"Pissing contest"
"Keeping up with the Jonses"

Busardo said they admitted as much to him.

 

[sofarsogood]

Next breath explain the DNA 200.

Competition.

Evolv could have introduced the programming features in a DNA40 but the product would have been largely ignored because of the lower power. I didn't consider the DNA200 because of form factor and battery requirements. I want Evolv's programing features in a single cell mod. I've heard there may be a DNA75 on the way.

I wish I could get a 40 watt version of the firmware for my vtc mini. Then the cutoff voltage could be set a bit lower for the sake of endurance without compromising headspace. I never go above 40 watts. Actually I never go above 30 watts.

Cloud competitions should have a 15 watt catagory to show what can be done at lower watts.

 

[vapo jam]

It's interesting that so many people are against a 300W device. As some of the old-timers have pointed out, the exact same things were said only a few years ago about 20W devices, then 30W devices, then 50W devices, etc.

Of course, back then it was considered "insane" to build a coil lower than 0.5 ohm (yes, build only, because sub-ohm tanks weren't even a thing).

I say bring it. People will find a way to use the extra power, mass-market toppers will come out that require it, and everyone will complain about the new 500W device because "there's no reason I'll ever need more than 275 watts!"

 

[vapo jam]

It's interesting that so many people are against a 300W device. As some of the old-timers have pointed out, the exact same things were said only a few years ago about 20W devices, then 30W devices, then 50W devices, etc.

Of course, back then it was considered "insane" to build a coil lower than 0.5 ohm (yes, build only, because sub-ohm tanks weren't even a thing).

I say bring it. People will find a way to use the extra power, mass-market toppers will come out that require it, and everyone will complain about the new 500W device because "there's no reason I'll ever need more than 275 watts!"

For the record, I only vape around 15-20 watts; I just like to see the innovation that's driven by having more power available.