reccomend a good PV with cartomizer/tank

[veganvap]

or clearomizer/whatever, I'm confused, I just think that injecting a carto is way better than refilling a cigarette-like PV with a cotton tip that I end up gargling the juice and refilling in 3 hits and burning a filter, regardless if drippers think it's tastier or whatever.

Anyway, I think what I have now is an older Joy ego battery + Eliq-Cartomizer for e510, e510-T, EGOs, or CE4.
A new carto gives a decent hit for only about half a fill. I wet my lips and put the pv in my mouth to keep the atomizer from burning out quicker, but after one fill, the atomizer starts dying, the hits are thin and take forever to build up, so I say screw this and smoke half a cigarette. Usually the tip gets clogged/bubbles too and gets juice in my mouth.

I want this without spending 'too much' (sort of open to $100 range PVs)
thick hits
atomizers last long
refillable (injection's fine) and clear to see juice level.
no bubbling or juice in mouth
order from usa-based company so my credit card doesn't charge me a foreign %.
hopefully don't need a degree (sarcasm) to operate or huge in size, but don't want to upgrade in a few mohths, so maybe big and complicated.

Thanks so much.

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Regarding clearomizers in the size range I believe you're talking about (Sharpie sized?), I prefer the V3 Vision Ego Clearomizer. They're rebuildable, so when they get too old you can just replace the head instead of the whole thing. (They're easy to take apart.)
Regarding batteries (again, in that size range), a lot of people tout the Ego Twist, but I prefer the KGO. If you want variable voltage (hence the "twist), the KGO has a VV model, too. Get yourself backups of everything. I'm pretty sure you can do that with $100 for either of these options.
Just my two cents. Good luck...

 

[Duckbitesman]

i will agree with kopfstimmen, get yourself a couple twists or a KGO vv BUT i suggest a couple Kangar T3's they are inexpensive, replaceable heads, they use every last drop of juice and you dont have to tip or roll your pv to keep wicks wet... out of the vast array of clearos i have tried the Kangar T3 out performs all of them imho.

 

[zapped]

i will agree with kopfstimmen, get yourself a couple twists or a KGO vv BUT i suggest a couple Kangar T3's they are inexpensive, replaceable heads, they use every last drop of juice and you dont have to tip or roll your pv to keep wicks wet... out of the vast array of clearos i have tried the Kangar T3 out performs all of them imho.

How do they handle high VG juices? Im tempted to pick up a few myself.

 

[Baditude]

Just so you can better understand the more common juice carrying devices, take a look at this picture dictionary of devices that will work on top of the battery. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...minology-carto-tank-what-lol.html#post7544745

An couple of eGo Twists or Spinners would be a nice intermediate size battery to purchase. The mah rating determines how long each battery will function before needing recharging. 100 mah is equal to 1 hour use. So 900 mah will last 9 hours on average. You will need to purchase an ego charger and a usb/ac wall converter, too.

AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | AltSmoke.com | eGo-C Twist Battery

or

AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo Spinner Variable Voltage Battery

I recommend getting a few of the Kanger T3 clearomizers. These are easy to fill with e-juice, and the heating coil elements are replaceable when they wear out. Each one should last 3-4 weeks before needing to replace the heads, which are also available on the website.

Kanger T2 Clearomizers

As an alternative to the Kanger T3, a Mini Vivi Nova tank is also good for a beginner. Also easy to fill with replaceable heads.

Vision Mini Vivi Nova Tank Clearomizer 2.0ml Kit

 

[Kopfstimmen]

i will agree with kopfstimmen, get yourself a couple twists or a KGO vv BUT i suggest a couple Kangar T3's they are inexpensive, replaceable heads, they use every last drop of juice and you dont have to tip or roll your pv to keep wicks wet... out of the vast array of clearos i have tried the Kangar T3 out performs all of them imho.

Oops - look like I found my next purchase. PBusardo (my favorite reviewer) gave them excellent reviews in his "Clearomizer Shootout".

 

[Buggs5347]

I'm a bit confused by your description of your experience and what you are really using. Sounds more like you might be using an older atty/cartridge or else some really bad cartomizers. Else, you may be burning your cartomizers and/or overfilling them.

An Ego Twist or a Vision Spinner are decent variable volt batteries. The Kanger T3 is a a good clearo with a bottom coil. The Vision Vivi Nova mini is a good top coil clearo. My actual preference though, is a cartomizer/tank.

Every ejuice delivery device available has it's quirks and learning curve associated with those quirks. If you try not to get too frustrated and really learn the ins and outs of them, you will get comfortable enough to just know what I call the personality of the device and be able to instinctively sense when it's time to refill, or to clean/change the atty,.....before you get dry burns or juice in the mouth, etc.

 

[tj99959]

Right now I am using these cartomizers (3 ohm)
ElectronicStix.Com · Single Boge 510 Blank Laser Punched Cartomizer For Tank Systems
in these tanks
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
on a Kicked Silver Bullet set at 7.5 watts (4.7v), a Provari Mini set at 4.5v, and a OKR-T6 regulated home made box mod also set at 4.7v. My point being that it really doesn't matter all that much which PV you choose to use provided that it has the capability to deliver the power output that the delivery system you are using requires.
So you need to divide your question into two parts. #1 which delivery system is going to produce the vape that you want, and then #2 which PV best provides the power requirements that the delivery system needs.

 

[veganvap]

Thanks for the suggestions. Who needs more than 1 goof PV though? That's great we can change out a dead atomizer and keep the rest of the tank/carto/whatever is't called.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for the suggestions. Who needs more than 1 goof PV though? That's great we can change out a dead atomizer and keep the rest of the tank/carto/whatever is't called.

If you are serious about quitting cigarettes and wish to prevent any backslide from happening to give you an excuse to buy more, you always have to have a backup device in case something goes wrong with your primary device. These batteries do fail, and often at the most inopportune times. In addition, what are you going to vape with while your primary battery is charging for 3-4 hours? The vapor's motto is "Have a backup for your backup" (battery).

Case in point: After I had successfully "quit" smoking at around the one month mark, I suddenly made the discovery that all of my 4 cig-style batteries were drained, and I wanted my nicotine BAD. In a moment of frustration, I made the 5 minute drive to the convenience mart to purchase a pack of cigs while my batteries were charging. Luckily, the first cigarette tasted like crap and actually made me nauseous. I put it out without finishing it and threw the rest of the pack in the garbage. Just saying, don't allow yourself the excuse to buy any more cigarettes once you have quit. What if that first cigarette had tasted like nectar from the Gods and I decided to start smoking again?

I struggled for too many years to try to stop smoking. I will not put myself in a situation where I have an excuse to smoke again.

 

[veganvap]

all right, but I can't afford two right now, maybe I'll keep the one I don't like I have now for backup, since I don't want to turn anyone away from vaping by giving them a crap PV (like the cheap joy sticks with cotton filter I gave someone and said undestand that the better PVs are worlds better, so don't be discouraged)

I don't even know where to start buying, what's a cheap site, hopeulyy US-based so my CC doesn't charge a forign %? I want one that I can replace just the atomizer when it dies, something good like $100, I'll get the juice from one of the vegan sites linked in my other thread untill I learn to make my own. thanks, vape on.

 

[Baditude]

all right, but I can't afford two right now, maybe I'll keep the one I don't like I have now for backup, since I don't want to turn anyone away from vaping by giving them a crap PV (like the cheap joy sticks with cotton filter I gave someone and said undestand that the better PVs are worlds better, so don't be discouraged)

I don't even know where to start buying, what's a cheap site, hopeulyy US-based so my CC doesn't charge a forign %? I want one that I can replace just the atomizer when it dies, something good like $100, I'll get the juice from one of the vegan sites linked in my other thread untill I learn to make my own. thanks, vape on.

If you are able to view my blog entries after clicking on the link under my avatar, I have written up an ideal beginner setup complete with links to the vendors for a two battery setup complete with a charger, usb/wall adaptor, and a month's supply of either clearomizers or mini vivi nova tanks for under $100.

If you can not view it, private message me and I will send it to you.

 

[veganvap]

those batteries in you link look like the ego i have that gives me trouble and i end up smoking analogs. I guess I want one of those bigger more complex ones. I just want one, with re-buildable carto/clearo/tank/etc.

 

[InterFace]

If you got the eGo battery then that good enough. Just buy a Kanger T2 or T3 (depens do you like warmer or cooler hit) with 1.8ohm clearo. 2.4 or 3ml is enough size also.
now about the battery. 650mah lasts half a day so you need to carry a spare with you. 1300mah lasts whole day with me and the "fat" is allmost the same size as 650 , just larger in diameter.

left is 650mah+ce5 , right is 1300mah+kanter t2
if you dont NEED VV then ego is good enough with LR clearo

also it fits into pocket nicely and you can take it anywhere.
not like with evic/lavatube/provari what are too big for that

 

[Baditude]

those batteries in you link look like the ego i have that gives me trouble and i end up smoking analogs. I guess I want one of those bigger more complex ones. I just want one, with re-buildable carto/clearo/tank/etc.

Then it sounds like you want a mod that uses replaceable batteries, as that is the next step up from an eGo battery.

There are scores of these devices. What form do you want you mod? Flashlight tube shape? A box type mod?

What is the size limitation you are willing to accept?

How long do you want the replaceable battery to last? Do you want a larger device that will go all day on one battery, or a smaller device where you need to carry a spare or two batteries to last the day?

Are you content to vape at just one voltage? Or do want the freedom to raise or lower the voltage according to the juice flavor?

What us your understanding of the word re-buildable? Replace a used carto in a cartotank? Replace the head in a clearo or clearomizer tank?
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We need more specific expectations on your part by answering the above questions.

There is another website that has short reviews of some mods that include photos and videos. Take a look at some of those to get a rough idea of what you are looking for.

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/mod-reviews/
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In hindsight, you said the links to the V.V. eGo's look like the one device you own that has given you trouble. Is it a genuine Joye eGo or a no-name knockoff? The genuine brand devices generally are of higher quality and more trouble free. You might be writing off the eGo brand off a little too early for the price that you are willing to pay for a new device.

 

[veganvap]

Those two eGos pictured look a lot like what I have in silver but my cartos look cheaper and simpler, I guess the cartos are the problem causing the bubbling/clogs, juice in the mouth, and the atomizer burning out after only half a fill at which point I smoke analogs. There's nothing written on it, so I dunno if it's an eGo knockoff, or if i can upgrade to a better tank/carto/clearo and be fine with that.
There's 4 small slots on the battery where it screws to the carto that leaks sometimes and some juice gets on the battery conductor. When it's clogged, I blow through the PV and wipe up the excess that collects at those slots.
I don't want a box type, I'm okay with something at least twice the size of those egos, but don't need long battery life (can prolly get a cheap car charger on ebay). I'd rather not mess with voltages if it just means better flavor or something. "re-buildable' I currently just think means: take it apart and replace the atomizer and maybe a wire or two. lol?

 

[djtonyb]

Well, then you probably already have an ego charger. You could just order 1 spinner or twist to see if you like the variable voltage. Here is a video of a Kanger t3 rebuild... but if you're not confident doing it, you can get coils for a few bucks each. Some people like to rewick them with stainless steel mesh or cotton thread, but many just use them the way they are and swap out the coils for new ones.

Post a picture of your batteries... they are probably most likely eGo knockoffs, but knockoff batteries won't cause the problems you're having. It's all in the delivery system.

 

[veganvap]

I'll post pics in about an hour of everything I got. If my battery doesn't need to be stronger to give a good thick vape, then I gues I'll keep it and try better cartos/clearos/tanks.
I kind of want something high end like an ORION V2 though, seems , durable, reliable, and best performance/hits. igetcha69 on youtube has some really good vids making working with high-end ones seem simple. Maybe I can get a nice used one in the sellers forum here.

 

[Condorman]

Right now I am using these cartomizers (3 ohm)
ElectronicStix.Com · Single Boge 510 Blank Laser Punched Cartomizer For Tank Systems
in these tanks
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
on a Kicked Silver Bullet set at 7.5 watts (4.7v), a Provari Mini set at 4.5v, and a OKR-T6 regulated home made box mod also set at 4.7v. My point being that it really doesn't matter all that much which PV you choose to use provided that it has the capability to deliver the power output that the delivery system you are using requires.
So you need to divide your question into two parts. #1 which delivery system is going to produce the vape that you want, and then #2 which PV best provides the power requirements that the delivery system needs.

I wish I could even pretend to understand half of the above, please forgive my ignorance

 

[InterFace]

whats so complicated about what he said?
between 6 and 9 watts is what is considerid as "good vape" - depending what somebody likes.
at how many watts you are vaping depens whats your coil's resistance in ohms and whats your battery output in voltages (in VV you can change that output).
e.g. 3.3V and 1.8ohm will give you around 6watts
4.1v and 2.7ohm will also give you around 6watts.

basic things what you learned in 8-9th grade at school...