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charlie1465

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I like Inawera Lemon Cake a lot for a bakery type lemon flavoring

Thanks and yes the consensus seems to be that I will need to get a few different lemons. If we say 2-3 more of every flavour this would mean 140 flavours (FOR ME CURRENTLY)...I can see why some of you end up with 300 +
 

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Hi. I just tried this recipe kindly suggested to me on Reddit

Bavarian Cream (FW) 2.00%
Lemon Meringue Pie v2 (CAP) 5.00%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1.00%
Sweet Cream (CAP) 2.00%

But I made a mistake and added 1g of both BC and SC (which nearly brought them up to the LMP %). Its nice still but I have a couple of questions.

After a 2 day steep colour started as light amber but now it is rust coloured. It's no problem but is this normal? Why does it happen? Molecular interaction/chemical changes?

Also the lemon is very muted. Is this because of the mistake or just my tastebuds. Do the creams mute flavors? TIA.

The attached photo is from my mix session 9 days ago. Most of these started on day one as almost clear to slightly colored. After steeping for over a week they are starting to develop deeper shades of color. This is normal for most juices and is common and expected.

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I don’t know about the color change, maybe air introduced in the mix, but creams can mute. LMP % is low imo. I would just make another tester myself.
Ok, can you tell me what LMP % is? Something to do with the limit of use per flavor/recipe?

I don't get around as much as you do Letitia, so I guess I am limited in the 'new' terminology?

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The attached photo is from my mix session 9 days ago. Most of these started on day one as almost clear to slightly colored. After steeping for over a week they are starting to develop deeper shades of color. This is normal for most juices and is common and expected.

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Many thanks for this really useful photo. Mine was something between the 3rd and the fifth.. .I won't worry again.
 

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Ok, can you tell me what LMP % is? Something to do with the limit of use per flavor/recipe?

I don't get around as much as you do Letitia, so I guess I am limited in the 'new' terminology?

:)

My typing fingers always take the path of least resistance. . .PLR
 

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lemon tart remixed recipe uses (fe) lemon to prevent fading, also lemon meringue pie (fa) has more lemon flavor then pie flavor. Personally I just add lemon Sicily til I run out then I'll try fe lemon :) I would add it just before vaping , good for 3-4 days . The lemon percentage in that recipe is so low, I like it at 4% .
 

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Many thanks for this really useful photo. Mine was something between the 3rd and the fifth.. .I won't worry again.

Initial color almost always darkens with time after mixing. Once the color is stable it's probably ready to vape. Steeping time can vary from a day or two to as much as 4 to 6 weeks depending on the flavor. Candy flavors can sometimes be vapable on day two or may even be "shake and bake". Cake, Pie, and other desserts can take up to a month. tobacco flavors are about the same steep time as bakery flavors for best flavor.

@charlie1465 It never hurts to try a flavor from time to time during steeping to test in small amounts. I use a 306 atomizer for that or I put a small amount in an atomizer to try. The cool part about the 306 atty is that it has metal mesh wicking that's easy to wash, dry, and reuse.

FWIW, the 4th and 5th bottles are Milk Chocolate. The left one is TFA and the right one is Purilium, both mixed at 6% flavor. The colors are very different. Every flavor has it's own color change range during steeping. The base mix on all those is 50pg/50vg.
 
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Initial color almost always darkens with time after mixing. Once the color is stable it's probably ready to vape. Steeping time can vary from a day or two to as much as 4 to 6 weeks depending on the flavor. Candy flavors can sometimes be vapable on day two or may even be "shake and bake". Cake, Pie, and other desserts can take up to a month. Tobacco flavors are about the same steep time as bakery flavors for best flavor.

Yep..Thanks for the steep timings on different style mixes. Seems that a lot of the creams and cake flavours should be used quite sparingly but left for a longtime to develop. I have got 6 bottles steeping at the moment and am going to add 1 per week from now on so that i can get ahead of myself and always be vaping something that has steeped properly.

@charlie1465 It never hurts to try a flavor from time to time during steeping to test in small amounts. I use a 306 atomizer for that or I put a small amount in an atomizer to try. The cool part about the 306 atty is that it has metal mesh wicking that's easy to wash, dry, and reuse.

Planning on using my RDA's for test purposes. I've just bought the digiflvour mesh rda so maybe that will work as a wickless vape or perhaps an alien coil. I will try it out.
 

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If you are pairing a snv fruit with cream...FA fresh cream .75% + FA vienna cream 1.5% is a tasty vape with a 3 day rest. I prefer my fruit & cream mixes fruit forward so if you prefer cream forward or equal notes just raise the creams .5-1% each.

Thanks...and definitely prefer fruit forward. I don't have FA vienna cream so would probably go with sweet cream or Bav cream instead. I have TFA dairy milk also. Will look into getting some vienna on my next order.
 

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Bavarian cream I think has more of a custard note so may need a week or two at least, I could be wrong here tho. Mention custard notes and I tend to move on, mouthfeel is too thick for my taste.

You're probably right but doesn't stop it being nice to vape straight away but I guess it would then change over time. I'm new to DIY so no nothing really :) I really like a thick mouthfeel but at the same don't like my other notes swamped. I'm vaping this at the moment whilst my six bottles are steeping for six weeks.

Bavarian Cream (FW) 3.00%
Cream Fresh (FA) 3.00%
Custard Flavour (FA) 2.00%
Graham Crust (FA) 5.00%
Juicy Strawberry (FA) 5.00%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1.00%
Red Touch (Strawberry) (FA) 5.00%

It was good straight away but the strawberry is mingling more as time goes by. A good vape but needs some tweaking I suspect....it's all a learning curve.
 

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You're probably right but doesn't stop it being nice to vape straight away but I guess it would then change over time. I'm new to DIY so no nothing really :) I really like a thick mouthfeel but at the same don't like my other notes swamped. I'm vaping this at the moment whilst my six bottles are steeping for six weeks.

Bavarian Cream (FW) 3.00%
Cream Fresh (FA) 3.00%
Custard Flavour (FA) 2.00%
Graham Crust (FA) 5.00%
Juicy Strawberry (FA) 5.00%
Lemon Sicily (FA) 1.00%
Red Touch (Strawberry) (FA) 5.00%

It was good straight away but the strawberry is mingling more as time goes by. A good vape but needs some tweaking I suspect....it's all a learning curve.

You can vape anything that tastes good enough for to to vape. But when you mix so that t tastes good right away, remember, it’s going to change over time.

To keep my life as simple as possible, I keep track of those SNVs and only mix a 30 ml so I use it before it goes ugly on me. And I make a 120 ml of base so it’s not a huge drag to whip up a little when I’m craving one.

The long steepers, I make 120 ml.

I’d say, make some to use now, and some to sit and see what happens.
 
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