Reducing harshness

[tckenno]

Just got my first batch of juice-making supplies. Previously did not have option of doing anything other than mix pre-made juices to make changes. Rather than jump into making from scratch, would like to try tweaking some samplers that are sitting hardly used. Most are 10 or 15 ml bottles with only a couple ml gone. Foremost, the majority seemed dry or irritating and lacking sweetness. For instance have a green apple that tastes fine but irritates throat at 8W. Drop to 6.5W makes it cooler, less harsh but coils get gurgly. Is 24mg so that may partly explain, most of my samplers are 18mg, 50/50ish ratios. Thinking of adding 2ml vg to to smoothen and go from there. Sound ok? Read maltal also smooths. Better choice?

Using similar example for sweetness, I now have some sucralose liquid in addition to the maltal crystals. Am thinking a drop or two per bottle and go from there. Not sure about dissolving the crystals beforehand and how sweetness potency compares. Suggestions appreciated.

 

[man00ver]

Thinking of adding 2ml vg to to smoothen and go from there. Sound ok? Read maltal also smooths.

By all means, do both. The added VG should smooth a little, although you'll still have quite a lot of throat hit from a 24mg liquid (well maybe it'll be 19mg when you're done). Adding EM will sweeten it too. Most people would make a 10% solution of those EM crystals with a PG carrier liquid, then add just a drop or two of that solution to a 10mL bottle.

 

[sparkky1]

Just got my first batch of juice-making supplies. Previously did not have option of doing anything other than mix pre-made juices to make changes. Rather than jump into making from scratch, would like to try tweaking some samplers that are sitting hardly used. Most are 10 or 15 ml bottles with only a couple ml gone. Foremost, the majority seemed dry or irritating and lacking sweetness. For instance have a green apple that tastes fine but irritates throat at 8W. Drop to 6.5W makes it cooler, less harsh but coils get gurgly. Is 24mg so that may partly explain, most of my samplers are 18mg, 50/50ish ratios. Thinking of adding 2ml vg to to smoothen and go from there. Sound ok? Read maltal also smooths. Better choice?

Using similar example for sweetness, I now have some sucralose liquid in addition to the maltal crystals. Am thinking a drop or two per bottle and go from there. Not sure about dissolving the crystals beforehand and how sweetness potency compares. Suggestions appreciated.

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[BrotherBob]

We have a DIY forum. Can find it here:
DIY E-Liquid

About EM, might like to read:
EM flavour brands? + My first DIY juice
I believe its my last posted comment.

Foremost, the majority seemed dry or irritating and lacking sweetness

Could try sucralose----- 1-2% by volume. For 10 ml 1% equal 2 drops.
TFA and CA use sucralose.
re: Search - sweetener

Is 24mg so that may partly explain

Here you are kinda of stuck. All nic's are not the same. Some nic's can be smooth or harsh.

 

[tckenno]

By all means, do both. The added VG should smooth a little, although you'll still have quite a lot of throat hit from a 24mg liquid (well maybe it'll be 19mg when you're done). Adding EM will sweeten it too. Most people would make a 10% solution of those EM crystals with a PG carrier liquid, then add just a drop or two of that solution to a 10mL bottle.

Thanks for confirming and the EM info man00ver.

 

[tckenno]

Liked vid. Looks too easy. I had software installed but was good quick explanation on how to use.

 

[sparkky1]

Liked vid. Looks too easy. I had software installed but was good quick explanation on how to use.

It is that easy, you could make two flavor mixes in 5 min, just need to make a few small amount test batches, shake, taste and possibly let them steep a day, some may take 5 ...................

 

[retired1]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid

 

[tckenno]

It is that easy, you could make two flavor mixes in 5 min, just need to make a few small amount test batches, shake, taste and possibly let them steep a day, some may take 5 ...................

In your reply sounds like steep=sit. Have read posts where heating and repeated shaking of bottle is part of the steep. Do certain recipe ingredients need heat to blend/mix in order to prevent separation or is heat mainly used to reduce steep time?

 

[tckenno]

Just an update. Added a couple drops sweetener and a couple drops of a tart and sour flavoring to the green apple mentioned above and juice improved considerably. The tart/sour flavoring is interesting in that it seems to stimulate saliva and counteracts vape dryness that way. Will be trying it several other fruity samplers to perk them up too. Thanks all for the encouragement.

 

[sparkky1]

In your reply sounds like steep=sit. Have read posts where heating and repeated shaking of bottle is part of the steep. Do certain recipe ingredients need heat to blend/mix in order to prevent separation or is heat mainly used to reduce steep time?

I would use heat for speeding up the steeping process, have you tried mixing any of your own yet ?

 

[tckenno]

Have not mixed a recipe sparkky. One problem is I didn't think to order empty bottles. My stash consists of 22 10-15ml samplers (some still wrapped) and 2 30ml mainstays a third full each. 5 weeks into full-time vaping and have only one empty 10ml bottle to show for it. Geesh. Maybe it's the high nic combined with tootling, but only using a few ml/day. Thought juice would go quicker. Much quicker. Also a tad apprehensive about the sterility and sanitation aspect of diy, prolly more so than necessary. Pretty sure that fear will pass quickly first time juice supply gets low. Meanwhile, will focus on draining more of these samplers...

 

[tckenno]

Did give mixing a try today. Used empty 10ml bottle to make a simple cinnamon recipe. 60/40 Cinnamon-Cotton Candy at 20% volume, 50-50 VG/PG, and at 12mg nic. Didn't think I could vape a juice that would be too sweet, this is close. Definitely a candyish recipe. No harshness was a plus. The cinnamon (TFA redhot) is in ethyl alcohol base and didn't know how to plug that info into the eJuice me up program so ignored.

Took me about an hour to make, but was triple-checking everything. The more viscous ingredients didn't want to draw into my glass pipette real well so wasted time fiddling with syringe tips as well. A good basic eye-dropper is one tool I need to get. Presently have juice steeping near woodstove. Curious to see if it changes much.