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I second that!
I grovel before the forum gods who finally bestowed upon me the coveted *sticky*.
I have, conservatively, about a quarter of a million posts under my belt..in one form or another.
At the dawn of time when Radio Shack came out with the TRS-80, I hauled hay for a whole year to get one. It wouldn't do anything worthwhile..but ive never been without a computer since.
I was on the internet when the internet wasn't cool...When anonymous FTP and Gopher were *it* and the "internet" went to like 20 colleges around the US/world.
BBS's, MUDs, Gaming sites, darn near every online game made since 1998..almost all had forums and I was and am an avid poster..and average probably 50 a day here and there, at times way more than 50...Way Way WAY(!) more than 50 when the NGE occured...maybe 10 people on this whole forum knows what *that* reference means haha.
Finally, after all this time, I have a post that got the coveted "sticky".
Thanks! It's been a long hard road, and I'm glad I finally got there.
If I've helped one person, it's all worth while.
Well, I can guarantee you that I am at least one person you helped with this video, KC!! And I know that many of us will be thanking you. Figured out what I was doing wrong to flood my poor carts earlier. Didn't have it tilted all the way to that 45 degree angle and was dripping too much straight down. Have filled a few more carts since and it works perfecly! God, I can't thank you enough for showing us all such a nice, simple method that WORKS!! Was dying to try out the pear and banana sample juices that Steve sent as part of my prize package so cleaned out a couple of other flavors I wasn't so keen on and filled 'em up. Wow! Love that pear!!! And the banana is good, too. Both very, very yummy flavors. Thanks to you, I was able to clean the carts, fill them up and vape them all in under 10 minutes tops. I bow down to you, oh kc0cmp ...
Of course, I didn't mean that I vaped them both dry in 10 minutes! Just a couple of 'taste-tester' vapes from each of them. LOL
Of course, I didn't mean that I vaped them both dry in 10 minutes! Just a couple of 'taste-tester' vapes from each of them. LOL
Well, I can guarantee you that I am at least one person you helped with this video, KC!! And I know that many of us will be thanking you. Figured out what I was doing wrong to flood my poor carts earlier. Didn't have it tilted all the way to that 45 degree angle and was dripping too much straight down. Have filled a few more carts since and it works perfecly! God, I can't thank you enough for showing us all such a nice, simple method that WORKS!! Was dying to try out the pear and banana sample juices that Steve sent as part of my prize package so cleaned out a couple of other flavors I wasn't so keen on and filled 'em up. Wow! Love that pear!!! And the banana is good, too. Both very, very yummy flavors. Thanks to you, I was able to clean the carts, fill them up and vape them all in under 10 minutes tops. I bow down to you, oh kc0cmp ...
Of course, I didn't mean that I vaped them both dry in 10 minutes! Just a couple of 'taste-tester' vapes from each of them. LOL
Wow, Princess, I thought *I* kept late hours LOL. I knew there had to be something causing your woes.
I intentionally overfilled a cart several times earlier, trying to determine the best, yet least wasteful way, of clearing a "holy crap" flooded cartomizer. Won't work if you have bad joints tho
If you hold on to the cartomizer, completely unplugged, and shake it really hard, like youre going to throw it at the hubby for doin something punishable by a black eye...but forgot to let go..in the direction of the battery end, you can actually sling the extra out in about two extremely hard slings...works for people like 30 and younger unless theyre in supreme health. I have bursitis...i pulled it off..but i wouldn't do it regularly.
I got the idea from that damn butterscotch that I love, but is like fillin a cart with butter...its omg thick..doesnt look thick in the bottle, but when you go to fill a cart with it, jeez, you need a darn bathroom plunger to get it to go haha.
Have you tried the plunger method? It works great with the thicker liquid...actually it works great with any liquid.
that was one of several things i tried. unfortunately it fails unless the little cartomizer condom is lubricated ( presumably with juice) which i take great pains not to get all over the outside of my cartomizers. my cartomizer condoms stick on like glue and require effort (mighta noticed in the video) and pumping them up and down is an impossibility unless there's juice (or something we'll leave unnamed) all over the cartomizer allowing the little condom to slide more freely :/
Thank you KC for the vid. I got a couple of little bottles of juice and wasn't sure what I would do with them. I have been one to use up the juice in the atomizer and throw it. I have some empty carts and will try this now. You made it look very easy, hopefully it actually will be. Thanks again.
The best tool I've found so far for removing the end cap and washer is the handle from a binder clip. I use one from a medium-sized binder clip, and the wire is pre-bent into an L shape that fits in through the hole, and then you can straighten it up and the short end of the clip is just a touch shorter than the radius of the cap. This way you can pull out the cap in one tug, and because the wire is flush against the cap from the center all the way to the outer edge it never breaks or deforms the cap at all.
Another thing that works is putting the condom on about a third of the way then squeezing it. As you have noted it must have a good seal but I never have a problem. No need to put any liquid anywhere except in the cartomizer. But thanks for the video, it does get the point across..lol. There are lots of ways of filling these...lets just be happy we can get to the filler and that the cap is not glued on.
Great video KC, I finally had the time to watch it and saw several mistakes I have been making. You are top notch in my book! I use a hooked dental pick to remove the cap and washers. Similar to the ones pictured here. It works great, and most folks can probably pick one up for pretty cheap at their local drugstore near the toothpaste.
KC how long does the refill cart last you?I followed your vid to the tee and this cart only lasted me about 4 hours compared to the 1 1/2 days I get with a prefill.
they typically last me (remember we all vape differently) a few hours of moderate vaping...they never quite last as long as the first use, primarily because the key to recognizing emptiness is that hint of burnt taste. since you've done it once, next time it'll be a little easier to detect, and the next a little easier. thats why i toss them at about 10ish...one the burnt taste gets stubborn in the bin it goes.
Now you *could* pack every last drop of juice possible in them, then use a passthrough to cook them down to vapability (they'd be grossly flooded) and maybe get more duration out of them..but you have to remember that with a used cartomizer, you're dealing with an unknown..with an empty theyre dealing with a set known value (in reference to how much total juice can possibly fit). Used carts typically contain juice, when theyre needing refilled. The amount of that juice depends on several factors, incuding how well centered the atty was on that particular one, the fluffiness of the batting on that particular one, one or two other things like temperature and type of e-liquid (theyre not all the same thickness, vid proves that one LOL).
it's *always* better to err on the side of caution (not quite full) than err on the side of recklessness (omg drowning in juice) in my opinion. as a consequence, they wont vape quite as long as a new fresh cart, and really they shouldn't...if refills vaped as good as new ones, everyone would be out buying used ones, right? haha
Yes many good points in your response there KC.I just wanted to make sure that I was not doing it wrong.Now there is no danger of killing your passthru if you do over juice your cart?I went a little nuts with my last refill and when I did the light test I saw the middle blocked by some juice and I cooked it with the pass thru for a bit then rechecked and it cleared but i was worried that my passthru might have been punished for my noob mistake.
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you can actually shake out extra juice if your joints can take the force needed to do so...you know how you shake a bottle to sling all the sauce to the cap end? you do that with a cartomizer too, hard as you can towards the battery end...select your target well though or you'll get juice on the wall/floor/cat/wife then there'll be hell to pay.
an auto pt you can indeed kill with juice. the new manual pt is sealed, you can see the little blob of silicone they put in it to seal it. definately a plus, no need for a hole on a manual lol.. the manual batts are sealed too
I've also discovered another 'bump in the road' when refilling. The first few carts worked perfectly well but then I ran into a couple that, even though I knew they were pretty dry, when I tried to refill, the drop just pooled at the top until I finally took the plug out and then it dissipated down into the filler. I'm thinking that the batting is so tight that there isn't enough air circulation to allow the juice to absorb when the plug is in. Which kind of explained to me why some of my carts, even from brand new, can be really tough to pull on. Have you ever had this happen, KC? And yes ... I've found that it is way better to err on the safe side when refilling!! Have to get myself one of those manual passthru's!!
Three things that might help here.
1. The shake out thing that KC does in this video.
2. The plunger method described by Gib (basically you put a plastic cap on the mouthpiece end (with the plug still in the battery end and the o-ring and white plastic cap still off). You push the cap all the way down then take your finger or some other small rounded tip item and push the middle of the plastic down toward the inside of the cartomizer. Do this a couple of times and it should force the juice into the batting.
3. Take a paper clip or other small pointed object and gently loosen the edge of the batting away from the interior walls of the cartomizer. Do this in just a few places and this will give the juice somewhere to go and allow it to saturate more easily.
Hope one of those works for you!
Number 1 works for thicksauce...when youre dealin with VG or insanely thick PG like some of the custom stuff..and might work in her case
number 3 is a win, in a way..paperclip, safety pin, whatever thin and long you got...but my suggestion is to put it in the top side (side you're not filling) to allow air flow. I rarely have this issue with a cart..but i'll admit, it did happen to me maybe 3x...if you saw the pile of carts i got over here (like 20 now) you'd know what i mean by rarely.
Some of you know just how much juice i hammer down in a week...lifespan of my cartomizers is...extended..and thats putting it loosely haha, i milk them till theyve either developed burned flavor permanent, or taste funny from half vaped juice buildup.
Then i put on a new cartomizer and im like WOW! yum!...over time you forget just how good a new one is haha
You don't need to push the cap all the way down. You can push it about 3/4 of the way down and then pinch the top of the cap between your fingers and thumb and pull it back up. Then back down, then up, then down..etc.. while still pinching. Quick and easy. No lube needed.
(hope I didn't offend anyone
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