Regression?

[twall]

Hi all.

Been struggling in my vaping life. I had thought I was progressing. I had gone from an eGo with a ce4 with juice at 20 nic, all the way through the gamut to 18650 mechs with drippers and RTAs using 2 nic juice.

Then, it was unceremoniously pointed out to me that although my juice nic had gone down tenfold, my vapor production had gone UP tenfold. So, the drop in nic really meant nothing. I am probably ingesting as much nic through a dripper at 2 nic, as I was through a ce4 at 20 nic.

That really burst my bubble. But it makes mathematical sence. So, I actually went back to my old ce5 and started using up my old 20 nic juice. After it's all gone, I may just go back to smoking. I thought I'd gotten somewhere. All I did was change nic delivery. I never quit nuffin. I might as well have switched to Snus. I enjoyed vaping. Till everyone seemed to make it all about quitting smoking.

Now, I really don't know why I even bother. Am I the only one? Does anyone even care? Or am I just "that forum jerk" and if I die of smoking related blah, who really cares? There are certainly more important lives to save than mine. Have you ever felt this way? Like you are just a smoker who likes being a smoker, trying to find a socially acceptable replacement? All to forget why you cared about what society thinks to begin with? Just thoughts. Deal with them or don't.


Thanks, ECF dood.

 

[stevegmu]

Vaping is not for everyone. You cave it a try; it didn't stick. Maybe at another time...

 

[r77r7r]

Just do what's best for you???

 

[T4T3Z0R]

Dont worry about your nic level. you can come off it as slow as you want, or not at all if you dont want to. the important thing is your not smoking. of all the chemicals related to smoking, nic is the least harmful

 

[caferacer]

Dont worry about your nic level. you can come off it as slow as you want, or not at all if you dont want to. the important thing is your not smoking. of all the chemicals related to smoking, nic is the least harmful

^^This. Your measure of success in quitting smoking should not be based on the nic level you currently vape at, but rather how long you've gone without smoking analogs. That said, if you truly prefer smoking to vaping and you've accepted the risks and health implications associated with it, then that's your choice to make. All we can do is encourage you to choose the healthier alternative.

 

[Grimwald]

Here's the way I figure it. When I started, I was using 24mg and 4.5 mil per day in a cartomizer .

4.5 X 24 = 108

Today I use 6mg and 7 mil per day in several devices (Kayfun, PT2, dripper).

7 X 6 = 42

So I've cut my nicotine consumption by more than half. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[smacuser]

Egos and ce4s vs mechs and drippers. Nic fix vs clouds. Then, the snus factor.

I'm waiting for the nicotine bubblegum, myself.

 

[smacuser]

What is the end goal?

 

[supertrunker]

I'm sure some 'forum jerks' will be along shortly to make you feel better!

Your maths is flawed unless your goal was to reduce your nicotine. If it was to stop smoking then it's been a superb success.

So stop whining and keep it up!

T

 

[twall]

^^This. Your measure of success in quitting smoking should not be based on the nic level you currently vape at, but rather how long you've gone without smoking analogs.

Thanks for the perspective. I get so sick of the vape shops and whatnot judging me by how much I cut my nic level this week.

I vape because it tastes so much better than analogs. I never intended to quit smoking. I like smoking. I love it. I just like vaping a lot better and hate it at the same time.

People think I am making some feeble attempt at quitting, and disregard me. Others in the vaping community not here, but elsewhere, assume also I am trying to quit, and make me feel like a failure when I would rather chuff a blu than drip zero nic.

Vaping should be about whatever you want it to be about. The dense clouds. The nic without the smoker's cough. The flavor. Whatever. WHY IS IT NOT? Because humans are fickle tribal beings. And you are with us, or against us.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[SuperTaz]

Hi twall . Hang in there ,tomorrow is another day. Like Tate said better to vape the nic than smoke.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Why would you think going back to smoking over vaping more nicotine be a good idea? Nicotine being the least harmful ingredient of a cigarette? I probably vape more nicotine at 6mg than I smoked but I wouldn't consider that cause to go back to cigarettes.

 

[twall]

Why would you think going back to smoking over vaping more nicotine be a good idea? Nicotine being the least harmful ingredient of a cigarette? I probably vape more nicotine at 6mg than I smoked but I wouldn't consider that cause to go back to cigarettes.

Quite honestly, because I never tried quitting. I never wanted to quit. I vape because it is delicious.

Since I was 8 years old, I have loved the smell of a cig. I love the taste. But I love the taste of vaping more.

However, if everywhere I turn, there are a bunch of judgmental ...... who want to tell me I am an idiot because I choose to vape, or to judge me based on some kind of stupid progression they impose upon me because of what they assume I am doing this for......well, it's just not worth the flavor.

 

[HMav]

EDIT:I was typing as you responded to previous posts, and saw that you vape because you like it better than smoking. Still, I say give a big F you to anybody who gives you a hard time about it. It isn't their life to live, and so what if they judge you? It's just water off a duck's back unless you make it more of it than that.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

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[caferacer]

Thanks for the perspective. I get so sick of the vape shops and whatnot judging me by how much I cut my nic level this week.

I vape because it tastes so much better than analogs. I never intended to quit smoking. I like smoking. I love it. I just like vaping a lot better and hate it at the same time.

People think I am making some feeble attempt at quitting, and disregard me. Others in the vaping community not here, but elsewhere, assume also I am trying to quit, and make me feel like a failure when I would rather chuff a blu than drip zero nic.

Vaping should be about whatever you want it to be about. The dense clouds. The nic without the smoker's cough. The flavor. Whatever. WHY IS IT NOT? Because humans are fickle tribal beings. And you are with us, or against us.

Thanks for the comments.

I completely agree. A couple of weeks ago, there was a thread on ECF entitled "Why Why Why?" in which the OP asked why non-smokers have adopted vaping, the implication being that vaping should be a smoking cessation method only. Several members (me included) discussed why for many of us, vaping is more than just about quitting smoking. I'll post a link to that thread if I can find it again, as I think a lot of what was posted there will be helpful to you.

In the meantime, GrimmGreen uploaded this YouTube vide a couple of years ago in which he perfectly summarizes how I feel about vaping.

Enjoy.




ETA: Here's the link to that thread Why Why Why

 

[twall]

THAT was well said, HMav.

However, my nic intake is not my concern. But it appears to be everyone else's. I have not smoked a real cigarette in 5 months. Yet, because I vape, some say I never quit. Others say, because I still love nic, I have not quit. The whole thing is too dam religious, IMHO

 

[Lessifer]

When someone gives you grief about not cutting down your nicotine intake, just tell them you've traded potential cancer(smoking cigarettes) for potentially preventing parkinson's and alzheimers(nicotine)

Study finds nicotine safe, helps in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's | Tampa Bay Times

 

[LMS62]

I have to say, in the nearly 3 years I have been vaping, nobody (including B&Ms) has ever questioned me, or made comments regarding the nic level I vape. Is it just me?

 

[ReigntheGamer]

You're giving too much control to others over your life. F 'em let them say what they want you do what's best for you.