Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

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You guys were right about Keith at Empiremods. The 1.8 I originally got died on me after an hour or so. I'm not sure if it was defective or user error, but he insisted on sending me a replacement.

EM is the first place I check if I'm looking for a certain piece of hardware, I just like dealing with them. vapetv for 5% off. Sometimes a freebie gets thrown in too.

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Hi again. I have 3 questions about joyetech 510 attys: 1) what's the purpose of the vinyl (?) covering?
2) Does it matter if it peeled off while soaking in ever clear?
3) what's the best way to clear out flavor when sampling many diy trials?


Thanks again for the link to digitalciggz- I just got them today- I ordered the stainless (I just like the look; it feels like a higher quality product) but Shannon called to apologize that the stainless option had not been removed from the options...Instead, I got these electric blue attys which are gorgeous but will probably peel off.

I love that I can ask and youse guys are so helpful.
 

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Hi again. I have 3 questions about joyetech 510 attys: 1) what's the purpose of the vinyl (?) covering?
2) Does it matter if it peeled off while soaking in ever clear?
3) what's the best way to clear out flavor when sampling many diy trials?


Thanks again for the link to digitalciggz- I just got them today- I ordered the stainless (I just like the look; it feels like a higher quality product) but Shannon called to apologize that the stainless option had not been removed from the options...Instead, I got these electric blue attys which are gorgeous but will probably peel off.

I love that I can ask and youse guys are so helpful.

I am not sure what viynl covering you mean. I guess it's just the color? Dunno. But I know that the outside of the atty won't affect the inside.

As far as flavor mixing--some flavors just linger, period. If you don't mind, just try vaping some neutral flavor in between or even some unflavored PG/VG. I got the Electric Blue and SS, so I do like both of those just as ornamental; but the SS is more to my liking as it matches the mod better.
 

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3) what's the best way to clear out flavor when sampling many diy trials?
I just blow the atomizer out real good and move on to the next flavor.

It can take anywhere from a couple of drags, to quite awhile for the next flavor to take over.
Some flavors stay in atomizers for longer than others for some reason, like menthol, dill pickle, and pizza.

Usually, though, I just get a drag or two of the two flavors mixed, and then the new one takes over.
But I do a really good job of blowing out atomizers, so there's that.
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But wait; there's more! I wish that I had a way to "cool down" my atty while using it. I do vape almost continuously when dripping; especially when I'm sampling DIY experiments. I try to use attys that range from 2.2-3 ohms and I set my voltage from 3.9-5.1, depending on juice and actual ohm reading.

It there a gadget that will help? Or a technique? I don't have enough time to let it cool when I'm trying out 10 flavors in a setting...

This is probably a ridiculous question, but I have to ask. Thanks for your patience. :)
 

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I just blow the atomizer out real good and move on to the next flavor.

It can take anywhere from a couple of drags, to quite awhile for the next flavor to take over.
Some flavors stay in atomizers for longer than others for some reason, like menthol, dill pickle, and pizza.

Usually, though, I just get a drag or two of the two flavors mixed, and then the new one takes over.
But I do a really good job of blowing out atomizers, so there's that.
:)

Thank you DC2. I'm going to ask this very carefully: Do you have special technique when cleaning before next flavor?
 

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Thank you DC2. I'm going to ask this very carefully: Do you have special technique when cleaning before next flavor?

Drip a straight unflavored. I just blow it out and try not to drip wildly different flavors back-to-back. No absinthe flavored juice next to a desert juice. Actually, no absinthe flavored juice ever! :laugh:
 

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Use two different atomizers?
:)

:facepalm:

Still, is there a dripping addy that is not complicated, regularly used by diy'ers and is easier to handle when hot (and oh, compatible pricing)?

Feel free to openly mock me; I did after reading what I wrote. In my defense though, I am a novice (hate "noob")
 

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:facepalm:

Still, is there a dripping addy that is not complicated, regularly used by diy'ers and is easier to handle when hot (and oh, compatible pricing)?

Feel free to openly mock me; I did after reading what I wrote. In my defense though, I am a novice (hate "noob")

You're fine. Are you blowing the attys out? I think you may not realize that when we drip, short of a blowout, we just drip a different flavor. I like to think about flavor-switching like a DJ plays songs--it's best to mix in tracks with similar tempos! Now, if you want to jump beats, just use a different attty if you can. For lingering flavors, your Everclear should work. Maybe mix some Everclear in PG/VG (I think that's all w2v's Atty Refresher is) and vape that for a couple puffs and then blow that out.
 
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You're fine. Are you blowing the attys out? I think you may not realize that when we drip, short of a blowout, we just drip a different flavor. I like to think about flavor-switching like a DJ plays songs--it's best to mix in tracks with similar tempos! Now, if you want to jump beats, just use a different attty if you can. For lingering flavors, your Everclear should work. Maybe mix some Everclear in PG/VG (I think that's all w2v's Atty Refresher is) and vape that for a couple puffs and then blow that out.

Well, I am doing one thing right. I only use related flavors in individual attys. However, I have neglected blowing out between flavors. Great idea 'bout using the EC in PG/VG! Thank you Mr. Mann. I feel much better now.
 

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Unless I missed it, I haven't seen mention of the SmartVapes 510 Dripping Atomizer. I just got the "short" version of this bridgeless dripping atty a week ago. The long tube version is on pre-order, and I wanted to try a dripping atty, so I got the short version to try out. I really love it, and ordered 4 more. Just use your own favorite drip tip; the one that's included is pitiful. The long version appears to be identical to the short version, other than length. They're both 1.5Ω. Oh, and they're $5 each.

Rich, full, delicious hits. Lots of vapor. Lots of throat hit, and maybe most important, it's the first time I feel the same vaping as when I'm smoking. Same pressure to fill my mouth, and the same amount of "hit", in both my throat and my lungs. I have a bunch of mods, including a dual 18650 DNA20 based monster, but this 1.5Ω atty seems to work perfectly on my tiny 400mAh Vision Spinner VV, even though the web site says a 650mAh or higher is recommended; I vape at 3.3V to 3.7V and it seems to work perfectly on my 400mAh Spinner.

To put my rant in perspective, while not quite a noob to vaping, this is the first time I've tried dripping. I'm trying to quit my 40 year Red habit. I'm about two months in this time, and have dropped from 2 PAD to 1. I've been using a bunch of different clearo's for their convenience (bottom coil, mostly GotVapes Sapphire and Nano), but they just weren't doing it for me, and my cig consumption was going up again. I got the nic I needed, but I never felt like I was smoking, and I missed it. With this dripping atty, I think I may be able to reduce my cig consumption altogether.

Can someone who's an old hand with dripping atty's describe what the difference between using the long tubed one and the short tubed one might be? Only thing I can think of is splatter and heat, but even with the short version, (and a wide open drip tip), I don't get any juice in my mouth, even right after I fill (drip), and the "heat" is pretty much perfect (I don't think I'd want it hotter or cooler). I am using a moderately long (30mm) Delrin drip tip, so maybe that helps. Once the long body is in stock I'll order one to try, though I really love the short ones I have. I don't mind experimenting since they're only $5 each, which is a bargain compared to, for example, a 357.

I first heard of this atty on Vapor Joe's site and there's a very positive (but slightly weird) review from Smokey on YouTube. Here's a link to the SmartVapes 510 Dripping Atomizer short tube version, and the long tube version, if you're interested. Anyone else tried these? The short one looks a lot like the Empiremods Bridge Free LR510 1.5ohm atty, though the EM pictures seem to show square air holes above the threads and my SmartVapes atty has round holes.

(I'm just a happy dripper; I have nothing to do with SmartVapes)
 
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Can someone who's an old hand with dripping atty's describe what the difference between using the long tubed one and the short tubed one might be? Only thing I can think of is splatter and heat, but even with the short version, (and a wide open drip tip), I don't get any juice in my mouth, even right after I fill (drip), and the "heat" is pretty much perfect (I don't think I'd want it hotter or cooler).

You have it summed up nicely. And thanks for the reminder to get these--I had forgotten.
 

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Having, as I do, 40 PVs sitting (standing, actually) at the ready in canisters on my desk (with another 40 upstairs at my bedside)---eGo batts, mod boxes, all-mechanicals, many VVs and VWs, including some of the most sophisticated and powerful APVs available (yes, I have a ProVari, a dual 18650 10-amp Penguin Tin VV, SmokTech VMax/ZMax, seven VAMOs, and an Innokin SVD, among others) all loaded with different juices in cartos, clearos, and tanks---Resurrectors, Kanger horizontal bottom coils, dual coils, Ultimate CE2s, CE3s/Phoenixes, rebuildable CE4s, CE5s with mesh wicks, Vivi Novas, Kanger T3s/EVOs (with hundreds more of all those waiting brand new in my spare parts cabinets), plus eight bottom feeders just for good measure---why, you'd think I'd be set forever. With all that and 13 liters of retail and DIY juice, I could open up my own vaping store (if I didn't live in a tiny town on the Oregon coast, 50 miles from anywhere...).

Then why do I find myself spending increasing percentages of my vaping time (which is pretty much all the time) dripping into a 2.3 ohm standard Joye 510 atty powered by a VAMO set to 6-9 watts RMS (depending on the juice)? Right now that amounts to about 1/4 of my vaping time, but it's creeping up toward 1/3.

For heaven's sake, if I'm going to drip, then why don't I use any of the three RBAs I have? Why a crappy old school Joye 510 atty? At the very least, couldn't I use an HH357 or IKV i06? Well, I have indeed used all those in the past---RBAs, 357s, and i06s---and they're all great, but they're also something of a PITA for various reasons. I change juices about every 5-10 minutes, and RBA's aren't especially conducive to that (at least mine aren't). Also, we're not supposed to "blow out" 357s or i06s, according to their creators. But wait. I can blow out a regular Joye atty all day long and change juices with no ill effects.

But aren't RBAs much cheaper than regular atties, since I can wind my own coils? Well, yes, but after factoring in the cost of the RBAs themselves, spools of different gauge kanthal wire, and many different wicking materials (silica, cotton, candle wick, hemp, stainless steel mesh), it's not quite as dirt cheap as one might think. Plus, I really don't like the micro-surgery of winding my own coils. I never was particularly good at it anyway---hot spots, coils touching, etc. I know, that's no big deal to some people, but it is for me. And even the premade coil/wick assemblies that are about 50¢ each from various Chinese vendor sites still have to be wired up. So there's that.

But don't RBAs, 357s, and i06s blow regular 510 atties out of the water for flavor and the overall vaping experience? Many folks swear that they do, and I have no reason not to believe them, but for me, "blow out of the water" is a bit over the top. In my experience, any of those vaporizing devices are about 10-20% better than a regular old Joye atty. Now, 10-20% is certainly meaningful, but finally it doesn't outweigh the extra hassle of all those other devices.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing anything here. I vape all my equipment. But after nearly three years of "the quest" to find and acquire the ultimate, perfect vaping delivery systems, I'm a little shocked to discover that in some ways I've come full circle, all the way back to the beginning. Dripping into a standard Joye atty may seem primitive, but they're cheap on sale and last forever (especially on a VAMO). To renew their performance, I dry burn 'em once a month, and they're as good as new.

So here I sit, with an army of PVs lined up like soldiers eager to go into battle, all armed with very sophisticated "weaponry," but instead I'm dripping as if it were 2010. And happy as a clam. Go figure.
 

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Having, as I do, 40 PVs sitting (standing, actually) at the ready in canisters on my desk (with another 40 upstairs at my bedside)...

...I change juices about every 5-10 minutes, and RBA's aren't especially conducive to that (at least mine aren't). Also, we're not supposed to "blow out" 357s or i06s, according to their creators. But wait. I can blow out a regular Joye atty all day long and change juices with no ill effects.

This may be a silly question, but you're not saying that you have 80 mods but just use one atty at a time and blow it out when you change juices every ten minutes are you? If so, why?

I don't own 80 mods, but I have enough of them that I can keep ten or twelve flavors available at once without cleaning my atties to switch. I like 510's too, and I'd like to suggest that there are a bunch that are just as trouble-free as those Joyes (more, actually -- no cleaning out the primer before dripping). Joye atomizers are not unique in their ease of use. And, to my buds, Joye 510's are 20% less flavorful than lots of other 510's, including the $6 Empire.

Now to what REALLY caught my eye in your post: seven Vamos. Seven Vamos?!
 
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