Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

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Mr.Mann

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congrats on 5 years! I'm around 3 years. and I too am worried about not being able to find my SR joye 510 attys. I don't wanna rebuild! so please, you guys, keep me in your "looking for 510 attys" loop!
I asked one vendor if he had any in his back room. and sadly he doesn't know what a joye 510 atty is :(

Yeah, there are vendors out there that barely know the difference between a carto and an atty. But there are plenty that have the Joyes, but we (the "we" that give a damn) just need to find that one that can't move the product. I am willing to bet if we pooled together and approached a vendor that can't move his stock he/she/them would be willing to liquidate.

I am going to contact a few more vendors and other places soon and see what is possible. Oh, and I will also ask about LRs (I see you, Cags. ;))
 

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I am going to contact a few more vendors and other places soon and see what is possible. Oh, and I will also ask about LRs (I see you, Cags. ;))

If you have any success, I'm all in, please.
Like Cags, I'm still partial to the LR's. Will stayed tuned... and thanks for the effort, Mr. M.
 

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I posted this earlier in the thread, but Vapor Kings was selling 10-packs of joyetech 510 atomizers for $32.95
Looking at their website now, they seem to be selling only singles for $8.95 each.
:(

They are still on sale, I just ordered 10 along with 40 901's ;)

Some of you might want to check this out...
BULK 901 801 Joye 510 and 306 atomizers

Genuine Joyetech atomizers in packs of ten...
--510 standard and LR atomizers for $32.95
--901 standard and LR atomizers for $22.95
--305 LR atomizers for $32.95

Hi all. Long time reader, infrequent contributor to this thread. However, as a Joye 510 atty user, this thread is where I feel most comfy-cozy. That said, I just realized that 2 weeks ago I reached the 5 year mark as a non-smoker. Thought I'd share that with folks I can relate to the most. Btw, where did THAT time go? LOL

So, I'm getting a little nervous here that my beloved (2.2 ohm, standard) Joye 510s are starting to look like dinosaurs and may be only a matter of time before they are phased out of existence. As Mr Mann once said to me; (paraphrasing) "They (Joye 510s) feel like home to me". Truer and more eloquent words were never spoken, IMHO.

I'd love to purchase a nice cache of them. I took advantage of the Digital Ciggz special but that ship has clearly sailed. I'm wondering if anyone has thought about a group purchase? Thoughts?

I feel the same as a long time 901 user. I ordered a 3 year supply of the old RN4075 type 901's which dried up 10 months ago :( Even if I could've found the 4075 the Chinese probably would've fiddled with what I liked about them several times over, haha.

Also been away from the forum during the 3 years. I felt totally out of place until I found this thread, haha.

I've tried too many different cartos, clearos, coils. Some were ok, most were bad (for me). I just want my old reliable 901's.

At least you guys/gals 501's have become the "standard" thread, I have 5 Screwdrivers with 901 threads. Hopefully that is a saving grace and they will keep producing the 501s for you all. Mr. Mann's post doesn't seem promising unfortunately.
 

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Yeah, there are vendors out there that barely know the difference between a carto and an atty. But there are plenty that have the Joyes, but we (the "we" that give a damn) just need to find that one that can't move the product. I am willing to bet if we pooled together and approached a vendor that can't move his stock he/she/them would be willing to liquidate.

I am going to contact a few more vendors and other places soon and see what is possible. Oh, and I will also ask about LRs (I see you, Cags. ;))

If you have any success, I'm all in, please.
Like Cags, I'm still partial to the LR's. Will stayed tuned... and thanks for the effort, Mr. M.

actually guys, I am a SR person :) should I start calling some vendors too? since I've kinda found my spot, I don't really have vendors I call my own lol
 

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actually guys, I am a SR person :) should I start calling some vendors too? since I've kinda found my spot, I don't really have vendors I call my own lol

Oops. LOL. Yeah, check around as I am not having much luck, though I know it's possible.

Oh yeah, one VERY important thing to know is that if the vendor is an authorized Joyetech dealer, you'll be out-of-luck as they have to sell at a minimum price. Vendors like Digital Ciggz had real Joyetechs, but they weren't an "authorized dealer" and sold them at the price they chose. One thing that will get you "unauthorized" is if you sell the attys at a price of your own discretion. Hilarious!
 

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YCY, what do you think about the Aeros from Avidvaper? I remember liking them, but I *think* my verdict was that they were not much better than EMs. I got one coming to refresh my memory.

I think I just had one and it wasn't better than the regular Cisco Spec ones. I like those, but they're too expensive. I like the Vapage slant coil ones best of all (among the under $20 atties anyway), and when they have a BOGO offer, they're just $9 for a pack of two. They're as well-built and tasty as the Avid atties, if a little airier. I like the Empire atties just a hair less than the Vapage or Avid ones.
 

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I think I just had one and it wasn't better than the regular Cisco Spec ones. I like those, but they're too expensive. I like the Vapage slant coil ones best of all (among the under $20 atties anyway), and when they have a BOGO offer, they're just $9 for a pack of two. They're as well-built and tasty as the Avid atties, if a little airier. I like the Empire atties just a hair less than the Vapage or Avid ones.

I second the Vapage slant-coil 510 atties as particularly good. Vapage sells two kinds---the AMG Hybrid for Bottom Feeders (with four holes in the sides of the base for squonking), and the AMG Hybrid Universal 510 (with only a single hole through the positive connector). Both versions are 306 internals in 510 housings. I read that they're made in-house and that quality control varies in how well the coils are wrapped and mounted, but I never had any that were defective.

All mine are the BF version, since I have four VMod Bottom Feeders. These days, I use small-chamber rebuildable atomizers (YK1 Mini KTS) with micro-coils and cotton wicks on most of my 13 bottom-feeders (REOs, Phids, Vapages, Juicy Lucys, and an Old Goat), but even those are only a little better than the Vapage slant-coils, and the RBAs are a lot more work to maintain than the Vapage atties.

The HH357s I've had were noticeably superior in flavor yield to the Vapages, but the AMG slant-coils are a lot cheaper, especially during 50% off sales, where they're about $4.50 each plus shipping.
 

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I second the Vapage slant-coil 510 atties as particularly good. Vapage sells two kinds---the AMG Hybrid for Bottom Feeders (with four holes in the sides of the base for squonking), and the AMG Hybrid Universal 510 (with only a single hole through the positive connector). Both versions are 306 internals in 510 housings. I read that they're made in-house and that quality control varies in how well the coils are wrapped and mounted, but I never had any that were defective.

I also have several VMods, which these are perfect for. But I use them on all sorts of devices, and I've never had a bad one either.
 

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I also have several VMods, which these are perfect for. But I use them on all sorts of devices, and I've never had a bad one either.

Do you use the Hybrids or the Universals? Are they both suited for squonking? I want to get a bottom feeder at some point. Maybe when they go on sale again, or maybe just a Reo (not that a Reo is ever "just a Reo"). Don't know yet.
 

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Do you use the Hybrids or the Universals? Are they both suited for squonking? I want to get a bottom feeder at some point. Maybe when they go on sale again, or maybe just a Reo (not that a Reo is ever "just a Reo"). Don't know yet.

Mr.M,

The primary difference between the Vapage AMG Universal 510 atties and the AMG Bottom-Feeder 510s is that the BF 510s have four slots cut into the base of the connector (just inside but adjacent to the circumference of the 510 tube) to facilitate squonking. I don't see why the Universals wouldn't work also, because they're "open" atties with a hole inside the positive pin, just like JoyeTechs and other standard 510s. Dripping atties are closed, with sealed connectors, of course.

One of my Lucy Juicy box mod bottom-feeders bit the dust today when the plastic box finally broke. The regulated 5v circuitry had been wonky for a long time (some batteries wouldn't work, others would, with seemingly no rhyme or reason). So, I pitched it and ordered my fourth REO as a replacement---a tumbled raw aluminum REO 2.1 Mini blem. I like the 2.1 Minis that use an 18500 battery more than REO Grands, which use an 18650. They're the same width and depth, but the 2.1 Mini is shorter, which feels better in my hand.

In the REO versus Vapage Mod battle, I now have four REOs and four Vapage Mods---two XLs and two 2.0s. The Vapages were about $50 each bought on BOGO sales. The REOs---two blems (2.1 Minis) and two used from the Classies (a Mini and a 2.1 Mini)---were considerably more expensive, $100-$140 with accessories (button covers, extra hot springs).

All 13 of my bottom-feeders provide a good vape. The differences are in battery sizes used (14500, 18500, and 18650). None will accommodate low sub-ohm coils, but all are fine with builds down to about 1.0 ohms. I don't wish to go lower than that. 1.0-1.7 ohms is fine with me on a 3.7 volt battery.

The Vapage Mods are nicely designed and pleasing to hold. They don't feel "cheap," even though their inner skeletons are plastic. If money is a consideration, they're a good deal on sale at $50, although those sales are usually BOGO. If you can by only one, get an XL (18650) rather than a 2.0 (14500). I've modded all four of mine to allow rebuildable atomizers. PM me if you want the skinny on that.

As I'm sure you know, REOs are the heavy-duty industrial-strength champs of the bottom-fed marketplace. Thoughtfully-designed and incredibly well-made, milled from a solid block of aluminum. Totally mechanical (the Vapages are also), designed to allow disassembly of all parts for cleaning or repair/replacement. You just can't kill a REO (oh, I guess you could melt it in a 2000° forge, but you get my drift). Yeah, they're pricey, but so are ProVaris, and in this case you get what you pay for. All current REOs are milled with a catch cup that allows the use of bottom-fed RBAs with a base diameter of 14mm. Rob has a new line called "LP" (for low-profile catch cups for both the 2.1 Mini and Grand) that accept full-size RBAs. Many bottom-fed RBAs are expensive. I use dirt-cheap RDA clones from FastTech modded for bottom-feeding. Using a dremel and a micro-bit, I drill a juice channel through the silicon connector that surrounds the positive pin. Works perfectly. That said, standard 510 atties are fine for bottom-feeders.

Neither the Vapages nor the REOs are as beautiful as my three wooden Phids, which will accept Kicks, although I don't use them that way.

I saw a Red Sky wooden bottom-feeder in the Classies today---a DNA-20 VW unit that would be perfect for the sub-ohm cloud chasers. Asking price was $225. Not my thing, but great for somebody. Yes, I have Kayfuns, Nautilus tanks, and a ton of EVOD-style bottom-coil clearos, but---for a dedicated dripper who wants to stretch a bit---bottom-feeders are the closest thing to old-school dripping (except that you squonk rather than drip).
 

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Thanks, bill. I was at the site today trying my damnedest to figure out what the "low-profile" was all about. I am going to sell some stuff when I get back from Cali (leaving tomorrow) and then make my decision. If Vapage has a BOGO, or even a half-off sale, it'll be a no-brainer. But, seeing as how I am (likely) going to get rid of my main workhorse, I may need something indestructible -- like a Reo.
 

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Thanks, bill. I was at the site today trying my damnedest to figure out what the "low-profile" was all about. I am going to sell some stuff when I get back from Cali (leaving tomorrow) and then make my decision. If Vapage has a BOGO, or even a half-off sale, it'll be a no-brainer. But, seeing as how I am (likely) going to get rid of my main workhorse, I may need something indestructible -- like a Reo.

You are one of the most knowledgeable vapers I know, so you don't need any advice from me. That won't stop me from offering some, of course... LOL.

If you're giving up your ProVari (or even if you're not), then by all means get a REO when finances allow or you happen on a good deal used. The regular catch-cup versions will accommodate a REOmizer 2 (which is great---I have one) or other small-diameter bottom-fed rebuildable atties (I'd be happy to send you one of my spare YK1 Cyclone clones modded for bottom-feeders). Yes, the LP version allows the use of any atomizer you like, but I prefer the aesthetic balance of a small-diameter RBA on the REO. As I wrote, the Mini 2.1 is perfect for my hand---the Mini 2.1 is 3 1/8" tall, while the Grand is 3 3/4", which is meaningful to me---but you might prefer the Grand (6ml vs. 3ml bottle, longer battery life with the 18650 over the 18500). . Unless Rob has changed the milling specs since 2012, the regular catch-cup's inner diameter space on the Mini 2.1 is actually a tad larger---15.24mm versus 13.89mm on the Grand. If you have large hands, though, the Grand is a no-brainer. On the other hand, I find the VV REO just too tall for comfort (4 1/2").

There is something about the quality of a REO. They are superb vaping instruments. All those REOnauts aren't crazy (well, some can be a bit over-the-top in their single-minded enthusiasm, but even those aren't crazy about their choice of hardware to be fanatical about).
 
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