Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[EbenezerScrews]

I'm with you both, although...

I broke my voe as a devout non-fiddler and have been working to find a rebuildable setup Only a month in & not happy about it, haha. I have plenty of 901's & cartos to sustain me while I fiddle, hopefully I can come to terms with this. Totally agree! It's not difficult, for me, setting up a coil/wick, but overall it's just fiddly & annoying. Inconvenient as all hell. I just want to vape.

Like you both mentioned Mike & Cags, ya find something you like and try to stick with it but the quality starts to slip, shops stop carrying them or they flat out stop producing them. Brands like HH or IKV have brief windows of availability, feeling tethered to a computer stalking stock updates, I cant do that. Ugh, im coming off my third round of this struggle and just don't feel like going through this again in a year. Plus the possibility of legislation...i dunno anymore...

So many cliches being broken in vaping! If it ain't broke don't fix it. Can't build a better mouse trap. I may be a non-fiddler, but the chinese factories are obsessive fiddlers, haha.

Maybe the pendulum will swing back...ecigs started off as fiddly things with no other options. The drive back then was figuring out how to make these novelty items work for heavy smokers, as faff-free as possible. Then people got bored i guess and reintroduced fiddling, haha. Swing back baby!

 

[Johnnie Price]

Started with autos. Then I started dripping with autos. For the longest time I dripped on a modified eGo-C atomizer attached to en Echo. I only upgraded to a VMod because my autos started to die and I needed something more reliable. I find my atomizers last me a long time, but I only vape high PG menthol so they don't gunk up quite as fast. It works and I'm happy with it.

And to address the 808/901 issue discussed earlier, they do make an adapter to allow you to use 808 cartomizers on 901 automatics. If you reverse the center pin on this adapter, you can then use 901 atomizers on sealed automatics. You have to re-adjust the center pin every time you removed the atty to get proper airflow. It's a major hassle in all honesty, but it can be done.

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Started with autos. Then I started dripping with autos. For the longest time I dripped on a modified eGo-C atomizer attached to en Echo. I only upgraded to a VMod because my autos started to die and I needed something more reliable. I find my atomizers last me a long time, but I only vape high PG menthol so they don't gunk up quite as fast. It works and I'm happy with it.

And to address the 808/901 issue discussed earlier, they do make an adapter to allow you to use 808 cartomizers on 901 automatics. If you reverse the center pin on this adapter, you can then use 901 atomizers on sealed automatics. You have to re-adjust the center pin every time you removed the atty to get proper airflow. It's a major hassle in all honesty, but it can be done.

An automatic switch is satisfying, man. I have a few SD Keyrings I keep around for when I get that itch to just puff away, haha. They are delicate though, those lil auto mechanisms.

 

[evilfrog]

I haven't used an 801 in 6 years, so keep that in mind...

501's= Most hit, less flavor
901's= Good hit, good flavor
801's= Less hit, Most flavor

The 801's of old had an airy draw, having multiple air holes underneath the skirt around the connector. This resulted in a negligible throat hit. Those who enjoyed flavor liked them. Also keep in mind that atties back then were all around 2.9ohm. All of my knowledge of 801's may be out-dated and worthless. Thanks for reading! Haha

This is pretty accurate, though I find I prefer the flavor of a 901. 801s are quite airy and it is difficult to get the correct number of drops in them. They can go a long time on just a few drops, so it's easy to flood them - and they will leak a lot when flooded. I recommend you don't leave them on your mod after a vape session - better to put it on a paper towel to drain.
The drip tips are pretty hard to find these days. I have a couple old delrin ones I use, but I've seen metal ones around and I'm sure someone would make one for you if you ask them (Ohman, maybe?).

 

[Johnnie Price]

An automatic switch is satisfying, man. I have a few SD Keyrings I keep around for when I get that itch to just puff away, haha. They are delicate though, those lil auto mechanisms.

The only problem I have is I can't find a single carto or clearo I enjoy. They all have one problem or another for me. Dripping is the way to go, or bottom-feeding.

 

[evilfrog]

My take on the rebuildable vs disposable (vs clearo) problem:

Obviously both have good and bad points. As someone who looks for flavor over huge clouds, I got over cartos and carto tanks a long time ago despite their ease of use and effectiveness in keeping me from smoking - attys just taste better.
And while rebuildables have a leaning curve, they are future-proof and there is enough variation among them to provide for the entire gamut of vaping preferences... so I can get flavor-centric genisis attys that work best at 1-2ohms with a tight draw, while others buy the ones built for .1 ohm lung hits.

Disposables, on the other hand, are easy and taste great for quite a while, but if you're not squonking you have to drip, and you have to worry about your atty dying.
And there's the FDA to worry about, though we're still years away from them trying to do real damage... more concerning is the possibility of china deciding that disposables aren't worth the trouble and discontinuing them. I'd hope IKV, Empire, and Avid have a big enough following to continue doing what they do, but who knows?

I've only tried one clearo (a rather obscure one), as I always heard stories of muted flavor, cracking tanks, dry hits, needing to modify them, massive leaking, etc... They never seemed worth the trouble to me.

 

[jwbnyc]

Hmm.

I'm vaping on a Avid 306 Cisco Spec LR 1.5ohm atty. Have been for a Month. The one before that went Two months before I dropped it and broke a coil leg. Same with the one before that. They don't pop. They break when I drop them. So maybe not so expensive?

I've got an HH357. Been around for months. Don't much like it compared to the 306s. But it's still in one piece. So, again, not so expensive.

New stuff.

Fiddly?

Doesn't have to be. Been running the same set up in a ZAP for over a month too.

Ceramic wick in a SM Kayfun Lite +.

That's right.

Same wick since I wrapped the coil. Burn it, rinse it, fill it. Done. I'll run these Two until something goes wrong. Most likely the coils will break when I drop them.

The new stuff is just like the old stuff if you buy good quality and set it up to be reliable.

It doesn't all suck.

And it's not all fiddly.

 

[DC2]

If you're building your own coils, that's fiddly.

I've got about 100 standard 510 atomizers that will last me for well over 10 years.
Probably more like 20 years.

And I won't ever need anything else.
Nor will I ever have to fiddle.


And as for Ebenezer from the Class of 2008...

You're royalty as far as I'm concerned.
Chime in whenever you feel inclined.

 

[Mr.Mann]

If you're building your own coils, that's fiddly.

I've got about 100 standard 510 atomizers that will last me for well over 10 years.
Probably more like 20 years.

And I won't ever need anything else.
Nor will I ever have to fiddle.


And as for Ebenezer from the Class of 2008...

You're royalty as far as I'm concerned.
Chime in whenever you feel inclined.

U2DC2

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Fiddly or not I'm not interested in an atty thats bigger than my mod, haha. Plus there's no tank. Upside down, right side up, inside out, upside. Back pocket front pocket. Thrown willy nilly into a back pack...nothing to break, nothing to leak. If i drop the whole thing in mud...throw it away, use a new one....just a few more benefits, in my opinion, of the ole "regular atty".

 

[EbenezerScrews]

And as for Ebenezer from the Class of 2008...

You're royalty as far as I'm concerned.
Chime in whenever you feel inclined.

Pfff, gross. Haha.

 

[peraspera]

Building coils has always been super easy for me. It's something I futz with from time to time, more out of curiosity than anything else. However, I personally prefer HH.357's to any rebuildable. They last me for months so the expense is negligible. I use the HH.357s in Amp Tanks or Vision Auroras so they are very convenient to use.

I'm a very picky eater and an even pickier vaper. Even when I smoked I could detect flavor nuances that nearly no one else could and this is the case with juices as well. I've found that for everything other than tobacco and coffee juices vaping at low power provides the widest spectrum of flavor nuance. The HH.357s deliver the right volume of vapor at lower power which gives me all the flavor subtlety I so love.

I've built sub-oHm vapes and don't care at all for what the higher temperature does to flavor nor do I like the overwhelming volume of vapor. I do understand why some people love that type of vape but it's not for me.

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Building coils has always been super easy for me. It's something I futz with from time to time, more out of curiosity than anything else. However, I personally prefer HH.357's to any rebuildable. They last me for months so the expense is negligible. I use the HH.357s in Amp Tanks or Vision Auroras so they are very convenient to use.

I'm a very picky eater and an even pickier vaper. Even when I smoked I could detect flavor nuances that nearly no one else could and this is the case with juices as well. I've found that for everything other than tobacco and coffee juices vaping at low power provides the widest spectrum of flavor nuance. The HH.357s deliver the right volume of vapor at lower power which gives me all the flavor subtlety I so love.

I've built sub-oHm vapes and don't care at all for what the higher temperature does to flavor nor do I like the overwhelming volume of vapor. I do understand why some people love that type of vape but it's not for me.

Is finding 99% of all the flavors I have tried unpleasant considered picky? Cause I have tried alooot of them, haha. Funny though, Tobacco & Coffee seem to be the only ones I can even give a second chance myself, but not a third Unflavored has been my mainstay for quite a while...I am the total opposite from a picky eater, love to try new & unusual things. Such a strange thing the subjectivity of taste Peraspera, wish I could appreciate eliquid flavors like you described so well.

I was never able to get along with dry burns or any method of coil cleaning. Always imparted a subtly unpleasant, dry, metallic taste I could never shake. I know I am in the minority with this one, as coil cleaning is as old as atties themselves, and I've tried all the methods. I just toss em in the garbage, haha. I've run into the same issue rebuilding. Seems common practice to torch a coil before a build. Dry burn when rewicking...both of which leave that familiar subtle taste. If I avoid doing both, everything's fine.

Does anyone use or have tried cartridges? I know this thread is titled "Regular Atty Drippers", but these style of atties used to be referred to as "two-piece atomizers" with polyfilled cartridges to hold eliquid. The same as with a cartomizer, which would be "one-piece", only the filling was inside a removable drip tip. You would "top off" the cart, maybe a direct drip onto the coil for good measure, and pop the cap back on. Some Atties still come with the cart but no polyfil.

 

[DC2]

Does anyone use or have tried cartridges?

I doubt anyone here uses cartridges any more, but tried them?
Tried them? I think lived through them is a better way to phrase it.


A lot of us have not only tried them, but tried every way on earth to improve them!


I went through so many cartridge modifications over my first year that I have lost track of how many...
--Was using the blue fish filter foam for awhile
--Tried out the pyramid tea bags
--Tried out the Zero Filler Mod for awhile
--Tried the stainless steel mesh pipe screens
--Tried the Spring Mod and various variations for awhile
--Used pen grips (DDC) as a precursor to drip tips for awhile

I'm sure I tried out many other things that I've long since forgotten.

Here are some threads which should bring back some memories...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/470502-i-remember-back-day.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/40093-direct-drip-cart-mod-ddc.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/17014-spring-mod.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...supplier-forum/53487-zfm-zero-filler-mod.html

 

[EbenezerScrews]

I doubt anyone here uses cartridges any more, but tried them?
Tried them? I think lived through them is a better way to phrase it.


A lot of us have not only tried them, but tried every way on earth to improve them!


I went through so many cartridge modifications over my first year that I have lost track of how many...
--Was using the blue fish filter foam for awhile
--Tried out the pyramid tea bags
--Tried out the Zero Filler Mod for awhile
--Tried the stainless steel mesh pipe screens
--Tried the Spring Mod and various variations for awhile
--Used pen grips (DDC) as a precursor to drip tips for awhile

I'm sure I tried out many other things that I've long since forgotten.

Here are some threads which should bring back some memories...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/470502-i-remember-back-day.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/40093-direct-drip-cart-mod-ddc.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/17014-spring-mod.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...supplier-forum/53487-zfm-zero-filler-mod.html

Haha, oh yes, sweet memories. Great links. I dunno, I never minded them. Come on! Blue foam with a cut piece of a plastic straw down the side wasn't good enough for you!? Haha. I still have probably 50 of the things, and yes I do break one out on only the most specialist of special occasions!

 

[DreamWithin]

lol, I remember trying most of those when I first started vaping I can't remember what it was called, but I saw it posted here on ECF back before I actually joined: the tin foil cart insert that was fanned out like a little broom. That one I actually got working pretty decent for a while.

Sometimes I miss the simplicity of a Screwdriver and 901 attys ;-)

 

[Johnnie Price]

I aactually tried out a cartridge system for the heck of it about a year ago. Back when I was serious about only using automatics and nothing was going to change my mind. Then I got tired of batteries dying on me during my second shift.

 

[Johnnie Price]

I just ordered one of those Cisco Spec 1 ohm atomizers. Anyone here try them out yet? I also ordered a new dripping rig.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I just ordered one of those Cisco Spec 1 ohm atomizers. Anyone here try them out yet? I also ordered a new dripping rig.

Not yet, but soon!

 

[Dixie1954]

OK I use a KangerTech EVOD 510/ego threaded set. I want to find a wickless dripper to use for only testing flavors as I DIY them. Can anyone point me in the right direction?