Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[Faylool]

I found joyetech 3.00 ohms at electronic stics for $6-$7 -ish ( my memory for small details is bad) a five pack and free usps shipping $20.00 or over and 5 % for april "rockinrobin". I ordered a debridged cisco spec 510 and 901 ( or maybe it was a 306) im not tired. Both in 3.00 ohms. Yes im tired. Long story short lots of driving and a grand jury witness deally bob i was happy to cooperate with but emotionally tiring. Sad stories and glad is over! I like happy things, as much as possible!
Its weird because they expect more experienced vapors to use 5 volt....but my experience has been it takes some extra finesse to use anything below 2.00 ohms, which is still low resistance. Everytime find a bunch of interesting attomizors in one store they are all low reserve like 1.5 ohm. Have i missed something? I wont go to the rba posts about. .8 ohm atties! I have a few i ended up not wanting to use as much as 2.00 ohm and up. Its user error im sure now because everyone seems to lve them. Especially for bottomfeeders for some reason. Is it a fad or here to stay?

 

[Ferrel1134]

Mr Mann mixed with that amazing blueberry yes.

 

[Ferrel1134]

I'm scared to use anything below 2.2 ohm.

 

[Faylool]

I'm scared to use anything below 2.2 ohm.

Well im glad to hear that since youre the newbie of the month now and i was feeling a little concerned but im not especially talented with all this stuff, im just determined. Ill no doubt revisit my 1.5 ohm atties and play some more.

 

[Ferrel1134]

Aww darn and the month just started.

 

[Faylool]

So it did. So your not a newbie now. Especially with all the excellent advice youve gotten from this thread. I thought to myself while reading threw posts, wow, this is rurning into a documentary on Ferrels first tries and how wonderful it will be for every lurker to see the honost quick pretty clear but honest again resposes to ideas and questions. Put it all on the table. No question too dumb. All of it.

 

[DC2]

I'm not sure where this "breaking in an atomizer" idea came from, but I've never done it.
My 510 atomizers go straight into the fire, at 4.8 volts minimum.

And please don't get me started again on the whole "bridgeless atomizer" thing.
I've already commented on that one.

 

[It's Only Me]

There's no bridge in a carto. In an atty the bridge is just a piece of metal that curves outward and has metal mesh on it.

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Oh, I got it. Thanks. At least I got going with some cartos to try it out. Dripping is a great way to go while I'm at my desk. I don't mind putting in a few drops every once in a while. I can line up my flavors and have at it.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'm not sure where this "breaking in an atomizer" idea came from, but I've never done it.

I have first seen the ideas from youtube videos, internet vaping forums (dating back to the year you joined), other vapers, and the makers/designers/distributors of either their own hand-made attys or ones they had made to their own specs (Isaac from IKV, Hanna from Avidvape, Keith from EM--though I don't feel his really need a break-in--and Zen from House of Hybrids, etc.) commenting on how to get the best performance out of their product. The concept of "breaking in," in the case of Joyes may have more to do with the primer being totally flushed out than anything. Maybe. Personally, I don't like vaping primer at high heat--that stuff stays on that wick for a minute. I get better performance (meaning clean, crisp flavor from my liquid) out of attys after a day or so. So as to the why? I imagine the atty is breaking in whether I am trying to do it or not and maybe it's just the primer? Maybe. In the case of RBAs and genesis attys, well, you'd have to ask the makers and the vapers of those, but they say the same thing.

D, I have to ask, do you not like Empire Mod attys? Aeros? HHs? I know you have commented on de-bridging being "wrong," but what about attys that never came with a bridge? Do you just not like those? What has been your experience with bridge-free attys?

I haven't found the need to break-in a bridge-free atty except for the HHs, but those come with primer, so maybe there's something to the notion of primer and break in. Hell, Hanna gives explicit instructions on proper break-in of his attys.

Now, as to the "need" to break in with varying degrees of lower voltages--that is personal preference--after all, not everyone can.

 

[Ferrel1134]

Very very deep. Great first post this morning.

 

[Kemosabe]

I have first seen the ideas from youtube videos, internet vaping forums (dating back to the year you joined), other vapers, and the makers/designers/distributors of either their own hand-made attys or ones they had made to their own specs (Isaac from IKV, Hanna from Avidvape, Keith from EM--though I don't feel his really need a break-in--and Zen from House of Hybrids, etc.) commenting on how to get the best performance out of their product. The concept of "breaking in," in the case of Joyes may have more to do with the primer being totally flushed out than anything. Maybe. Personally, I don't like vaping primer at high heat--that stuff stays on that wick for a minute. I get better performance (meaning clean, crisp flavor from my liquid) out of attys after a day or so. So as to the why? I imagine the atty is breaking in whether I am trying to do it or not and maybe it's just the primer? Maybe. In the case of RBAs and genesis attys, well, you'd have to ask the makers and the vapers of those, but they say the same thing.

D, I have to ask, do you not like Empire Mod attys? Aeros? HHs? I know you have commented on de-bridging being "wrong," but what about attys that never came with a bridge? Do you just not like those? What has been your experience with bridge-free attys?

I haven't found the need to break-in a bridge-free atty except for the HHs, but those come with primer, so maybe there's something to the notion of primer and break in. Hell, Hanna gives explicit instructions on proper break-in of his attys.

Now, as to the "need" to break in with varying degrees of lower voltages--that is personal preference--after all, not everyone can.

couldnt agree more. joye attys need to be broken in for sure. i do beleive its just the primer that needs to be removed. and i do think that seasoning the coil helps too, but the main thing for me is removing the primer. when i first break out a new joye atty, i clean it as if i was trying to clean out juice from a used atty. that primer is gnarly as hell. and my preferred method for doing this is the syringe clean method where you strap the atty to a syringe using a 1" piece of rubber tubing. warm water is usually all you need. sometimes a few vodka blasts is required.

but as far as the bridge-free attys go, ive been able to get great performance from those (Empire Mods primarily) without any pre-cleaning.

 

[vaptamist]

I completely disagree about there being no benefit to bridge less or debridged atomizers. All the bridge does for dripping is obscure the coil and deflect the juice I'm dripping from actually going onto the coil.

The bridge is vestigial - a leftover from a time when atomizers were used with cartridges and its job was to wick juice from the filler in the cartridge to the coil. If you're not using a cartridge you don't need a bridge. Since this is a thread about direct dripping...

 

[Mr.Mann]

I completely disagree about there being no benefit to bridge less or debridged atomizers. All the bridge does for dripping is obscure the coil and deflect the juice I'm dripping from actually going onto the coil.

The bridge is vestigial - a leftover from a time when atomizers were used with cartridges and its job was to wick juice from the filler in the cartridge to the coil. If you're not using a cartridge you don't need a bridge. Since this is a thread about direct dripping...

Good points! When I speak about "bridge" attys, I am really only speaking about Joyes. They have a bridge, but the point of the bridge doesn't matter, I just prefer that atty.

 

[vaptamist]

No problem - I wasn't really referring to your comments, but someone else who said it was absolutely incorrect to debridge or use bridge less atomizers. Most of the time if there is a bridge on an atomizer, I'm too lazy to remove it, but I generally prefer the bridge less option if its available.

 

[Mr.Mann]

No problem - I wasn't really referring to your comments, but someone else who said it was absolutely incorrect to debridge or use bridge less atomizers. Most of the time if there is a bridge on an atomizer, I'm too lazy to remove it, but I generally prefer the bridge less option if its available.

The bridge is vestigial - a leftover from a time when atomizers were used with cartridges and its job was to wick juice from the filler in the cartridge to the coil. If you're not using a cartridge you don't need a bridge. Since this is a thread about direct dripping...

I guess a case could be made that direct dripping with a bridge is "wrong" or using a bridge atty without a cart is incomplete. LOL

 

[Ferrel1134]

All I know is mr Mann and joyetech thingamajig rocked it out of the park.

 

[DC2]

No problem - I wasn't really referring to your comments, but someone else who said it was absolutely incorrect to debridge or use bridge less atomizers. Most of the time if there is a bridge on an atomizer, I'm too lazy to remove it, but I generally prefer the bridge less option if its available.

I didn't say there was no point in bridgeless atomizers, I said there was no point in debridging an atomizer that comes with a bridge.
The reason I don't debridge atomizers is (a) they hold less juice, and (b) you might screw them up, and (c) why bother?

 

[vaptamist]

Thanks for clarifying. I still disagree that there is no point to debridging an atomizer, it can be beneficial at times. It's definitely not a requirement for most, though.

 

[CalamityJan]

I didn't say there was no point in bridgeless atomizers, I said there was no point in debridging an atomizer that comes with a bridge.
The reason I don't debridge atomizers is (a) they hold less juice, and (b) you might screw them up, and (c) why bother?

Absolutely!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Absolutely!

CJ, I got my package in and I had completely forgotten about it! Thank you so much and like I said before, I will keep my eye out for those LRs. Thank you--this is such a wonderful gift.