Regulateds are better than mechs

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Exactly. And when we hear of something bad its generally involving battery charging.

Many regulated modz charge as a unit. The they are intact during the mischief.

Mechs come apart during charging.

Its all the same operation. Charging the battery.

Kbox batteries must be removed to charge them. Has anyone ever heard of a Kbox causing a fire?? Has anyone caused a fire charging Kbox batteries??

If you think about it, the same charging mechanism that is in a regulated is what a external charger has. Of course it depends on the quality of the charger.

I personal enjoy an internal charger with a device that I can take out the battery as needed like the hcigar vt 40. I do have a mech that I enjoy at times. I mainly have in case everything fails.
 

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My general view on all this is that it comes down to the individual we're all different and we all like and dislike individually there is no x is better then y because it's subjective and individual as we've seen in this thread. I never say never on anything I have one mech and a few regulateds and all have their place in my vaping routine and I get enjoyment out of all of them. Topics like this are always borderline argumentative by their nature maybe it would be best if we all just enjoyed our vape and stayed off the net on things like this.
 
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What is your objection to mechs based on your experience? I have to ask, because in all the time I've used them, which has been since I started vaping, I've not run into anything to object to but poor workmanship in the clones I've owned. I'm happy with my mechs, and I don't need a device that does for me what I can do myself with my building skills.

Nor do I need a mod that tells me what time it is, what the date is, how many puffs I've taken, what watts I'm vaping at, what my lottery numbers are for the day, or what my remaining voltage is. If you feel you need that have at it. My mechs do just what I want them to, what I bought them for, and that is to put the voltage straight to the coil I wound on the wick I rolled without the intervening and unnecessary BS and failure points.

I respect that. One of the reasons mechs continue to appeal to me (I just bought two more about two months ago) is that the performance of my setup is "all me".

Cheeseburgers will always. Be. Better. Than. Hamburgers.

;-) ;-P

True, however, you cannot forget about the King of cheeseburgers - the bacon cheeseburger!
 

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Those are facts. Entirely objective.

The title of your thread is your opinion and totally subjective. Instead of including "I think" or "in my opinion" you created just another unproductive mech vs regulated bashing thread, and there are plenty of those. Moving on.
 

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this is not directed at everyone so don't get defensive if this doesn't apply to you
can we please stop calling all unregulated mods mechs? For a box to be a mech the button has to complete contact between the button and the atty connector. Unregulated mods with switches are not mechs.
Depends on the type of switch though [emoji51]
 

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Depends on the type of switch though [emoji51]

no it doesn’t. That’s why I distinguished between a switch and a button.

unregulated box, not a mech
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unregulated box where button completes the circuit, mech
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no it doesn’t. That’s why I distinguished between a switch and a button.

unregulated box, not a mech
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unregulated box where button completes the circuit, mech
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In any mod, the switch is completing a circuit. In a mech, the switch is mechanical and works by moving some much larger metal contact. The mech mod above is a Cherry Bomber-like setup. Some mechs, like the Dimitri or Abaddon work by moving a metal plate to touch battery positive (the other side of plate is connected to atomizer 510). Others work by touching battery negative to the metal on the mod. The easiest way to make the distinction is that true mechs have no wires.
 
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this is not directed at everyone so don't get defensive if this doesn't apply to you
can we please stop calling all unregulated mods mechs? For a box to be a mech the button has to complete contact between the button and the atty connector. Unregulated mods with switches are not mechs.
Can we please stop calling purpose built power supply's for vaping "Mods".

If it started life as a flashlight, laser pointer, or had Altoids in it.. it is a Mod.

If it was designed to power a atomizer it is a power supply!!!

;)
 

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Can we please stop calling purpose built power supply's for vaping "Mods".

If it started life as a flashlight, laser pointer, or had Altoids in it.. it is a Mod.

If it was designed to power a atomizer it is a power supply!!!

;)
Well, especially for mechs, these are usually purposely built by a very small groups of people... made out of conductive metal that is modified to hold a battery and attach an atomizer. The authentics are not mass produced. If I purposely built a vaping mod and sold it to someone, it is still a mod.

ETA: and 'mod' is a lot easier than 'purpose-built metal vaping battery holder with switch and 510 connection'
 
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In any mod, the switch is completing a circuit. In a mech, the switch is mechanical and works by moving some much larger metal contact. The mech mod above is a Cherry Bomber-like setup. Some mechs, like the Dimitri or Abaddon work by moving a metal plate to touch battery positive (the other side of plate is connected to atomizer 510). Others work by touching battery negative to the metal on the mod. The easiest way to make the distinction is that true mechs have no wires.
You could still have a true mechanical that has wires. Mechanical refers to the switch and weither the full current passes through its poles. If the box has a MOSFET it is not mechanical as the power to the atty is flowing through the MOSFET and the fire button is acting as a trigger.
 
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You could still have a true mechanical that has wires. Mechanical refers to the switch and weither the full current passes through its poles. If the box has a MOSFET it is not mechanical as the power to the atty is flowing through the MOSFET and the fire button is acting as a trigger.
In some mechs, like the mech box you depicted above, current is passing through the switch button. On others, like the Abaddon box, current does not pass through the button, only an external piece of metal that the button pushes against. But, even with a mechanical switch, a mod with wires and soldered contacts is usually not considered fully mechanical.
An example of this is the Cigreen 7 box:
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This switch moves a metal external plate. It is mechanical. But the box is wood and the batteries and 510 are connected with soldered wires. At best, this is a semi-mechanical box.
 
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In some mechs, like the mech box you depicted above, current is passing through the switch button. On others, like the Abaddon box, current does not pass through the button, only an external piece of metal that the button pushes against. But, even with a mechanical switch, a mod with wires and soldered contacts is usually not considered fully mechanical.
An example of this is the Cigreen 7 box:
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This switch moves a metal external plate. It is mechanical. But the box is wood and the batteries and 510 are connected with soldered wires. At best, this is a semi-mechanical box.
Those seem like arbitrary distinctions.

We could start referring to them as analog or digital. Digital being on or off, analog being variable.

That'll really confuse them ;)
 

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Well, especially for mechs, these are usually purposely built by a very small groups of people... made out of conductive metal that is modified to hold a battery and attach an atomizer. The authentics are not mass produced. If I purposely built a vaping mod and sold it to someone, it is still a mod.

ETA: and 'mod' is a lot easier than 'purpose-built metal vaping battery holder with switch and 510 connection'
By that definition the first stone wheel was a "mod" :lol:
 

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By that definition the first stone wheel was a "mod" :lol:
The first stone wheel was a modified stone at the time. Then they became ubiquitous. At least, in that case, "wheel" is a simple and accurate term.

But what about vaping battery holders? We don't have a simple useful term, other than 'mod', for these devices. They are not batteries. They are not vaporizers. They are battery holders with attachments for vaping atomizers. "Mod" is as good a term for these as any. There are many, many, words with multiple definitions.
 

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The first stone wheel was a modified stone at the time. Then they became ubiquitous. At least, in that case, "wheel" is a simple and accurate term.

But what about vaping battery holders? We don't have a simple useful term, other than 'mod', for these devices. They are not batteries. They are not vaporizers. They are battery holders with attachments for vaping atomizers. "Mod" is as good a term for these as any. There are many, many, words with multiple definitions.
I think the term you are looking for is 'power supply'.

:D

I hope you realize I'm joking around. My post that started this was a parody of the comment I quoted.

The frog is dead :(
 
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