Reo Grand Upgrade problems

[turner]

Hello all,

I've now repaired my reo twice, and both times my user error seemed to mess everything up. The first time everything seemed fine at first, but then i was having some leaking problems and when i went to take it apart again, i realized i had overtightened the firing pin connection and it ended up breaking. sigh, was back on stinkies for a bit. Bit the bullet and ordered another kit, made sure not to overtighten the firing pin and it was working well until the hose came off while i was filling. I went to take everything apart again and superglue the hose back on, and then i couldn't get the delrin insert all the way back in and i think it bent my delrin insert screw. It's working fine at the moment but I'm afraid that it is going to fall apart at any moment again, and all other e-cigs cease to alleviate my necessity for smoking.

Anyways i had a few questions,
1) Could I replace the firing pin with some sort of screw that is hollow, leave it longer and have a nut on the outside of the delrin insert instead of the pin that is supplied with the reo? If so what type of metal would be best?
2) Could I drill a through hole where the delrin insert threads into the body and use a longer screw/nut combination to hold it in instead? Does anyone know what size screw the delrin insert is?

I'm going to buy another reo at some point, i'm just kinda poor right now and would love it if i could fix this one up so i'm not worried about it.

Thanks
Turner

 

[marsos52]

I'm sorry to hear about your problems with your Reo Mod,

As you know from the forum here many Reo users have made mods to there mod.
understand, that doing this may solve the short term issue but, may cause some kind of issues later on.

This could make bringing your mod back to stock hard or impossible.

If I was in your shoes, I would send the mod back to Robert and let him make it new again.

 

[pdib]

I wouldn't modify over these issues. The firing pin (overtight-snappy) is a one-time learning curve. By the time you did all the modifications to run a different 510+, you could have done 5 more rebuilds with factory parts in your sleep.

The screw not going in is usually an issue of something just not fitting. And something equivalent to the yanks and pulls a tailor might do will fitting a suit would probably resolve all that.

Sometimes the gasket material (tubing) that lives around the firing pin doesn't let the pin nestle all the way into the channel provided for it in the topside of that delrin block. Sometimes that same "tubing"/insulator stuff is just encroaching on the screw's path. Wiggles, pulls, and twitches.

Make sure you have a rebuild kit on hand and play with it. You've basically hit all the road blocks already, and are → ← this close to smooth sailing.

 

[turner]

That is the best option, but for now I cannot be without my reo as it's the only device that keeps me off cigarettes. I guess i can just leave it wonky for now, here's a picture of the inside

 

[pdib]

I can think of 4 reasons.

(1) you made a booger clot of superglue when you attached your juice tube and the juice-tube-edema won't allow the delrin to slide past.

(2) your firing pin with it's insulative tube/sheathing isn't nestling into the delrin where it's supposed to.

(3) you were too timid with tightening the juice nippoh onto the 510+ post, and the firing pin's fixed end is sitting too low and impeding full delrin seating. (or it's so loose it's crooked and that's causing the juice tube to not allow the delrin past)

(4) you stripped out the threading where the screw attaches to the REO body.

All of these would require some dis and re assembly. The last would be . . . . . errrch.

 

[JetMac]

I can't tell in your photo, but make sure the nipple that the tubing connects to is actually protruding through the hole in the delrin cover. That may be what the block is hung up on.

Also, make sure your firing pin is straight and not crooked. See pics below.

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[Copernicus]

That is the best option, but for now I cannot be without my reo as it's the only device that keeps me off cigarettes. I guess i can just leave it wonky for now, here's a picture of the insideView attachment 390890

I had an issue that was similar and I found that it was too liberal a use of superglue on the tubing. It can also come from the screw holding the Delrin in place is starting to wallow out the aluminum that it threads in to. I had to countersink the Delrin a little to allow the screw to tighten down further. Hope this helps

 

[turner]

so i tried taking it apart, cleaning off superglue, reseating the firing pin, but it's still all wonky. The threads in the back of the mod must've gotten cross threaded, i have access to metalworking tools, lathes, etc., but don't know what size screw it is. Does anyone know? I'm sure robert does. I think my only option now is to drill a slip through hole in the back of the body, get a longer screw and put a nut on the outside of the device. I'm pretty positive i cannot retap the threads, i tried running the delrin insert pin in at a proper angle and it seems like it works but with the delrin insert, no avail. Thanks for the advice everyone.

 

[turner]

I had an issue that was similar and I found that it was too liberal a use of superglue on the tubing. It can also come from the screw holding the Delrin in place is starting to wallow out the aluminum that it threads in to. I had to countersink the Delrin a little to allow the screw to tighten down further. Hope this helps

i just read your reply after i posted my last post, I'll try your suggestion before i do anything else.

 

[turner]

so i tried taking it apart, cleaning off superglue, reseating the firing pin, but it's still all wonky. The threads in the back of the mod must've gotten cross threaded, i have access to metalworking tools, lathes, etc., but don't know what size screw it is. Does anyone know? I'm sure robert does. I think my only option now is to drill a slip through hole in the back of the body, get a longer screw and put a nut on the outside of the device. I'm pretty positive i cannot retap the threads, i tried running the delrin insert pin in at a proper angle and it seems like it works but with the delrin insert, no avail. Thanks for the advice everyone.

looks like the screw hole is stripped for the delrin insert. I don't know what my other options are other then drilling a through-hole and putting a nut on the outside. thanks everyone for your help, does anyone know what size/threading the delrin insert screw is?

 

[SITS]

If a nut goes on the outside of insert, wouldn't that effect the door fitting into the mod correctly?

 

[JC Okie]

I think he means to get a replacement screw a little longer and take it through the back of the REO and bolt it on. The only thing it will affect is aesthetics....it'll have a bolt right in the middle of the back aluminum. turner, I know that Rob (redeyedancer) has a "fix" for a stripped delrin cover screw. It's not perfect, but it looks better than your solution is going to. At least it's on the inside of the mod.

If you think you're going to get another REO anyway, sooner or later, then do it sooner rather than later (you need a back-up...you KNOW you do) and just send that one to Rob. He will be able to fix it right up. That's just my suggestion.

 

[JetMac]

If a nut goes on the outside of insert, wouldn't that effect the door fitting into the mod correctly?

He's taking about drilling out the stripped threads that the screw threads into under the delrin block, then he'll put a slightly longer screw thru the block like it normally is and on the outside of the mod (side without the door) secure a nut on it so that its held in place.

Turner, just out of curiosity...have you tried to contact Rob about your problem just to see what he can do for you. If your worried about not having another grand while yours is away to get fixed, I have seen plenty of people on this forum offer to send a "loner" to people for the time being until their able to get theirs back from repair.


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[SITS]

Oh ok. I get it now. I am not very mechanically inclined.

 

[turner]

He's taking about drilling out the stripped threads that the screw threads into under the delrin block, then he'll put a slightly longer screw thru the block like it normally is and on the outside of the mod (side without the door) secure a nut on it so that its held in place.

Turner, just out of curiosity...have you tried to contact Rob about your problem just to see what he can do for you. If your worried about not having another grand while yours is away to get fixed, I have seen plenty of people on this forum offer to send a "loner" to people for the time being until their able to get theirs back from repair.


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I haven't contacted him, but I will here in a second.

Thank you all for your help. i really appreciate it!

 

[Rickajho]

That is the best option, but for now I cannot be without my reo as it's the only device that keeps me off cigarettes. I guess i can just leave it wonky for now, here's a picture of the insideView attachment 390890

I'm seeing a pile of not right there. Regarding the delrin cover being crooked the only thing I can think of is you chuffed mounting the nipple and it's cross threaded, making it crooked - which means the path for both the nipple and the bottle tube isn't lining up with the corresponding hole in the delrin cover.

I'm also a bit concerned that the battery spring looks waaaay over compressed. It could just be the angle of the photo but it looks way more compressed than it should be.

Can we see a picture under the hood, with the delrin cover pulled down?

 

[JC Okie]

I don't mean to be insulting...and I can't see the picture very clearly, but could the cover be backwards? You do have the round hole for the tube and the square hole on the right for the firing pin....right? I'm not sure it would even GO on backwards, but I know that every time I take one off, I really have to look hard and think about it when I'm putting it back together....ya know?

 

[redeyedancer]

I can fix it send it in anytime


Please put
a note with your email address and a brief description of the problem . Also
empty any e juice in the mod and remove the bottle .It helps to put a tissue or napkin around the tube . Please clean the mod if its a mechanical mod flush the mod with hot water and soap . I will send a invoice once the mod is repaired thank you

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[Racehorse]

looks like the screw hole is stripped for the delrin insert. I don't know what my other options are other then drilling a through-hole and putting a nut on the outside.

If the screw hole is stripped on the back of body, that is a problem. Having a screw pierce the body on back, with a nut holding it on, would be "interesting"......I mean, it would certainly be different. I had one like that and thought about doing the same thing once. You could actually decorate the nut with some artwork coming outwards from it, like steam punk design or paint on the body but it would be pretty UNCOMFORTABLE in your hand with that nut bolt sticking out in the top middle of the back of your REO body

Sounds like it's time to send to the Spa, you may be suprised with a properly applied rebuild kit it may come back to you good as new.

I wish you and your REO the very best.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Until you decide if your sending it in or drill through you can place a solid block between the delrin and the divider tab to help hold it in place.

If I was to drill through I'd slightly counter sink the nut and use a cap nut