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I think it's kinda a neat lock. One issue some, including myself, have had with the Woodvil locks is that they will occasionally lock themselves from repeatedly pushing the button. One of my Woodvils has an especially loose button. It turns very easily. I'm always inadvertently locking it as I'm vaping.
I like the lock on the P67. With my Grand it seems to take more deliberate action to fire it. While I love the button on the P67 it has been my experience that it will fire in my pocket...
Hey folks. So I've been a die-hard single coil small atty (RM2's then O-16 presently). I'm all about flavor but am finding that I'm leaning more towards DLH's and even considering DUALS. (Be still my heart) I generally run around 1.2 with Kanthal and recently using SS around .9/1.
But here's the scoop. I know zip about why dual coil folks prefer duals. (I know I could post this/research this outside of Reoville but I'm a 100% Reonaut AND you are patient).
Please share a word or 2 about duals in regard to flavor and anything else that comes to mind.
Happy Sunday all!
But here's the scoop. I know zip about why dual coil folks prefer duals. (I know I could post this/research this outside of Reoville but I'm a 100% Reonaut AND you are patient).
Please share a word or 2 about duals in regard to flavor and anything else that comes to mind.
Happy Sunday all!
The atties you use are rather small and i'm not sure that you'll get a better vape from them by doubling your coils.
There are nonetheless 2 ways to double your coils: one is obviously to use two of them that are identical and the other is to make a coil where you wrap 2 wires side by side - called a parallel coil. The net effect is the same, but the latter can be helpful if you have small atties with limited room.
When you use a lot of metal in a coil, for example with a low gauge wire (bigger the number - the thinner it is), then you need a lot of battery power to make it glow.That can be tough for a single battery mod to achieve.
Airflow is important for DLH, because nobody likes inhaling napalm, so you're going to want to play with the airflow and pay close attention to how the vape is.
If you do build you own coils, then for flavour, i'll not budge and say Claptons or fused Claptons are the best.
If you are after an easy build that are no problem to make, i'd go with a 26g wire and a 5 wrap coil x2.
You will need this
Coil wrapping
because it will give you an idea of the likely resistance of your build.
Don't guess. Test it - if you don't have the equipment or the ability to use them, buy them and learn.
TL;DR dual Claptons 26/32 A1, 70W.
T
There are nonetheless 2 ways to double your coils: one is obviously to use two of them that are identical and the other is to make a coil where you wrap 2 wires side by side - called a parallel coil. The net effect is the same, but the latter can be helpful if you have small atties with limited room.
When you use a lot of metal in a coil, for example with a low gauge wire (bigger the number - the thinner it is), then you need a lot of battery power to make it glow.That can be tough for a single battery mod to achieve.
Airflow is important for DLH, because nobody likes inhaling napalm, so you're going to want to play with the airflow and pay close attention to how the vape is.
If you do build you own coils, then for flavour, i'll not budge and say Claptons or fused Claptons are the best.
If you are after an easy build that are no problem to make, i'd go with a 26g wire and a 5 wrap coil x2.
You will need this
Coil wrapping
because it will give you an idea of the likely resistance of your build.
Don't guess. Test it - if you don't have the equipment or the ability to use them, buy them and learn.
TL;DR dual Claptons 26/32 A1, 70W.
T
Wow. Well-said, Super. VERY informative. I've been curious about dual coils for a long time, and this is the best post ever about it. Thanks!
Jan
Thank you Super. I hadn't even thought of parellels, although I have read about them.
Not to worry, I've been building my own for 3 years, have 3 types of meters that I use and the Steam Engine is my friend. I'm a bit of a mechanical klutz (although I enjoy tinkering) so I'm extra cautious.
What size of rod would you use for the easy build you described above. I was putting the numbers into steam machine to find out the ohms but I was lacking that one piece of info.
I'm curious though, about what draws folks to dual coils? I get that there is a space issue, so 2 coils makes it possible to have lots of wraps. Is it about flavor, heat, clouds, or ? Curious minds want to know.
I'm so glad to hear that a veteran such as yourself has the same question Makes me feel not so silly about asking. Thanks!
It's hard to describe. It isn't just about having 2 coils. It's also about having 2 wicks. Because of that, juice consumption will generally increase with duals, because you now have 2 wicks drawing up juice. Personally, I find everything about running dual coils to be fuller. Maybe 'thicker' would be an apt description. You do, however, need adequate airflow. I've been running dual coils almost exclusively, since my ss mesh genisis days. About the only thing I run singles in are a couple 2 post attys I have; the Stumpy and the Maker; and those are spaced Z coils, run diagonally between the posts.
Awwwww! Another illustrative answer: "Fuller" and more wicking. Thank you Rule! I figured that I would burn thru more juice but the "fuller" idea has my attention. Although I never want to go back to cigs for oh so many reasons, I must say that the "full" feeling is something that I miss. Very interesting indeed.
So I was playing around with Steam Machine and want to make sure I am understanding this in regards to duals.
I plugged in SS Elite,
30 gauge (presently I only have 28 and 30)
.8 desired ohms (as it runs cooler),
Dual coil option
3. Inner diameter and I see 9 wraps.
1st question: I'm assuming that's 9 wraps per coil correct? (I'm thinking that's an important thing to be correct on
2nd question/thought: that's gonna be an anemic Vape. I'm thinking I need to drop it down a bit
YAHOO! The light just went on! A .8 in dual is like a 1.6 in single right??? So I need to look at .4 or .5 in duals to get near my .9 in single mode? Am I getting it wise ones?
Yes, your number of wraps, for the parameters you described, would be 9/10 wraps per coil.
Remember, when building duals, your total resistance is half of what a single coil would be, because there are two paths for the current to flow. For a final resistance of .8 ohms, you would build 2 identical 1.6 ohm coils. Remember also, the two coils should be identical (same number of wraps for each coil).
As far as coming close to your preferred .9 ohm singles, you'll need to experiment. You can use the 'Heat Flux' feature at the bottom for this.
To get the .5 you seek - you need both coils at 1ohm...duals cut the resistance in half.
edit - you are using SS yes? Well - what I would do is build to 1ohm on each coil. I too like around a .4 to .5 cold resistance on my single coil 2.5ID SS coil...however, I did NOT like dual coil at .5ohm. YMMV
You will need to play around with it...dual coils can be wonderful but just like you needed to find your happy place with your single (coil ID, wind, air flow, wicking, coil height, spaced, contact....) now you need to do all that for duals. There is no one size fits all nor simply making 2 coils the way you like your single coil vape. At least, this is my experience.
edit - you are using SS yes? Well - what I would do is build to 1ohm on each coil. I too like around a .4 to .5 cold resistance on my single coil 2.5ID SS coil...however, I did NOT like dual coil at .5ohm. YMMV
You will need to play around with it...dual coils can be wonderful but just like you needed to find your happy place with your single (coil ID, wind, air flow, wicking, coil height, spaced, contact....) now you need to do all that for duals. There is no one size fits all nor simply making 2 coils the way you like your single coil vape. At least, this is my experience.
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You have inner diameter at 3.0, what atty do you plan to use? I believe you are going to need a larger atty to be able to get that much wire in without a short.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, dual 3mm diameter coils would require a big atty. I never build coils that large. In my 22mm attys, I usually build 2.5mm diameter. In my smaller attys, like the RM4 or the Nuppin, I build 2mm coils.
i'm not sure about that, but i'll concede that dual coils in a RM2 fail unless you drill an extra airhole. When you age and your hands are shaky and your eyes are as bad as your...
oh yeah, memory - then bigger atties are not such a bad thing at all. My own idleness means i only use RxW as wick and 3mm.
i'd like to point out that if you do use dual coils, then you really will need to understand battery safety, because you are asking that battery for a lot of power, especially if you end up running under 1Ω.
T
Oops and thank you! It would probably fit in the O-16 which has a "large deck for a little atty but I typically run 2 or 2.5 coils. I think I was in a hurry to get to the other numbers
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