lol well now I don't feel so bad. To get em out Rob always said he heated em with a solder, and used a stronger magnet to pull it out. Didn't work for me after using the mono multi glue, and didn't think when I had access to it, to try the one on the mod that Rob had glued in.I've managed to screw up about a dozen doors so far. Definitely using the Sharpie trick going forward. . . .