REO Vapeology 101

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As a newbie vaper, I'm slowly getting a feel for vaping on a REO. Below is a description of how I do it, and my observations, musings and questions about how different kinds of vapes result. If, like me, you are in the habit of overthinking things, feel free to critique my vaping technique, and add you own insights. Thanks.


So, the way I figure it, the following three parameters have about equal bearing on the kind of vape you get:

1. Squonk timing, duration and technique
I generally squonk between drags, to give the coil time to cool down and to let the wick get saturated with juice before I fire the coil again. In my experience, I get the fullest flavor and the thickest vape when I squonk a few minutes after the last drag and let a few minutes pass before firing up. The shorter these intervals, the less thickness and flavor I seem to get.

I squonk every three or so hits. If I squonk more often, the vape is thicker but not as warm or flavorful. If I squonk less, the vape gets gradually thinner. If I start to get a slightly burnt taste, I take it as a sign that I haven't squonked enough and re-squonk immediately, even if the coil is still hot, to prevent the wick from burning up. In general, I try to squonk too much / too soon rather than too little and late, as the burnt taste really ruins the vape.

I squonk with one uninterrupted press of about three seconds, while sucking on the drip tip without firing the coil until I get a slight resistance (called "blind squonking", I believe), then let the REO set to let the excess juice flow back into the bottle. I find this gives the best juice saturation. Do you ever "pump-squonk", or are there other techniques that work better for you?

2. Draw strength / length
I've learned to draw much more lightly than I would on a cigarette. The stronger I draw, the thinner and cooler the vape. I take much longer drags, too, to get a good, full throat hit. With hindsight, this seems like a pretty obvious thing to do, but after years of smoking cigarettes, it actually took me a good day to figure this out.

I suppose YMMV depending on the size of the airhole and the strength of the coil - presumably, stronger coils can deal with stronger draw and/or bigger airholes while still giving full flavor. But this also means you use up more juice, correct?

3. Coil strength (heat)
My basis for comparison here is VERY limited. I vaped two 2-ohm cartomizers before I built my first coil, and the latter (30 gauge cantal, eight wraps) generates a noticeably warmer, airier vape. The taste is similarly full, provided I squonk it right, so I plan on sticking with DIY coils. BTW, is there such a thing as a too-hot/strong coil or does more power always equal better (fuller, richer) vape?

There are two other factors I'd like to hear about: Wicking materials and juice composition. I've noticed there are many different kinds of wicking materials in use. How do they influence the taste of the vape? Similarly, how does juice composition affect your squonking technique and the resulting vape?

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1) I squonk after every hit, the force of the squonk will get stronger as the level of juice in the bottle goes down. Plus this gives it time to soak up and back down.

2) I don't really quantify my draws, but I notice that I adjust my pull as i'm drawing by the sound of the air coming in the airhole. It is a pretty light draw now that I think of it. This will also depend on the coil you have, lower ohm coils for me output more vapor in shorter period, so I don't have to draw as hard for as long. I also use a 3/32" airhole.

3)The great thing about coils is that you can vary your coil to tailor to your taste. I find that as the ohms get lower, vapor and warmth are intensified. Lower ohms also means higher watts, so by definition you are getting more power, but whether that translates into a better vape is entirely based on personal preference. I use max vg in my juices, I like as little pg as possible, taste wise I don't really notice a difference. In terms of wicking material, I find cotton to be the best I have used so far. I plan on getting some xc-116 to try. Silica has a good flavor but I find it a pain to wick thru my micro's
 

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The reason why you get the fullest flavor by squonking a few minutes after firing and letting it sit is because the juice is not landing on a hot coil. If you squonk on a hot coil the juice is preheating and losing flavor. While you don't need to wait 3 minutes, you got the technique down, just waiting 20 seconds after firing it (this largely depends on the ohms of your coil and how many wraps it has) has great results.
 

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The reason why you get the fullest flavor by squonking a few minutes after firing and letting it sit is because the juice is not landing on a hot coil. If you squonk on a hot coil the juice is preheating and losing flavor. While you don't need to wait 3 minutes, you got the technique down, just waiting 20 seconds after firing it (this largely depends on the ohms of your coil and how many wraps it has) has great results.

Fantastic tip. I never thought about this until you mentioned it. I tried it and it works!
 

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As a newbie vaper, I'm slowly getting a feel for vaping on a REO. Below is a description of how I do it, and my observations, musings and questions about how different kinds of vapes result. If, like me, you are in the habit of overthinking things, feel free to critique my vaping technique, and add you own insights. Thanks.


So, the way I figure it, the following three parameters have about equal bearing on the kind of vape you get:

1. Squonk timing, duration and technique
I generally squonk between drags, to give the coil time to cool down and to let the wick get saturated with juice before I fire the coil again. In my experience, I get the fullest flavor and the thickest vape when I squonk a few minutes after the last drag and let a few minutes pass before firing up. The shorter these intervals, the less thickness and flavor I seem to get.

I squonk every three or so hits. If I squonk more often, the vape is thicker but not as warm or flavorful. If I squonk less, the vape gets gradually thinner. If I start to get a slightly burnt taste, I take it as a sign that I haven't squonked enough and re-squonk immediately, even if the coil is still hot, to prevent the wick from burning up. In general, I try to squonk too much / too soon rather than too little and late, as the burnt taste really ruins the vape.

I squonk with one uninterrupted press of about three seconds, while sucking on the drip tip without firing the coil until I get a slight resistance (called "blind squonking", I believe), then let the REO set to let the excess juice flow back into the bottle. I find this gives the best juice saturation. Do you ever "pump-squonk", or are there other techniques that work better for you?

I try to squonk after about 4 hits. I do not blind squonk on the RM2. I try to squonk and let it sit to soak into the wick. It is a lot easier to do that with more than one REO in use.
Never pump squonk. Always a smooth pressure on the bottle. More pressure as the bottle gets less full.


2. Draw strength / length
I've learned to draw much more lightly than I would on a cigarette. The stronger I draw, the thinner and cooler the vape. I take much longer drags, too, to get a good, full throat hit. With hindsight, this seems like a pretty obvious thing to do, but after years of smoking cigarettes, it actually took me a good day to figure this out.

For sure I draw lighter than I would a cig. I draw into my mouth then inhale. Sometimes I will do a draw straight into my lungs, but that is only if I am needed nic quickly.

I suppose YMMV depending on the size of the airhole and the strength of the coil - presumably, stronger coils can deal with stronger draw and/or bigger airholes while still giving full flavor. But this also means you use up more juice, correct?

I usually use a 1 ohm coil. Uses a lot of juice! Did not change my air hole, stock is good for me.

3. Coil strength (heat)
My basis for comparison here is VERY limited. I vaped two 2-ohm cartomizers before I built my first coil, and the latter (30 gauge cantal, eight wraps) generates a noticeably warmer, airier vape. The taste is similarly full, provided I squonk it right, so I plan on sticking with DIY coils. BTW, is there such a thing as a too-hot/strong coil or does more power always equal better (fuller, richer) vape?

There are two other factors I'd like to hear about: Wicking materials and juice composition. I've noticed there are many different kinds of wicking materials in use. How do they influence the taste of the vape? Similarly, how does juice composition affect your squonking technique and the resulting vape?

I only use 100% VG juice. At about 30mg of nic.
I only use cotton for my wicks. I love the flavor I get with the cotton. I tried silica, made me cough. Cotton is easier, cheaper, and I just don't believe it could be much better!

REO's were made to handle 100% VG juice. I feel the RM2 is made for it also.



Right ... fire away. :)

Like I said above, I just don't see much I should do improve on what I do and use. I am so very happy with the REO, my juice, my wick, my coils, and my RM2!
 

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1. Squonk timing, duration and technique
I generally squonk between drags, to give the coil time to cool down and to let the wick get saturated with juice before I fire the coil again. In my experience, I get the fullest flavor and the thickest vape when I squonk a few minutes after the last drag and let a few minutes pass before firing up. The shorter these intervals, the less thickness and flavor I seem to get.

I chain vape so I don't like to wait 30+ seconds for the coil to cool. I just gently blow into my drip tip for about 2 seconds after I exhale and that seems to cool the coil down enough so there is no burning. Saves a lot of time waiting to squonk that way.
 

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Takes me about 30 seconds to exhale the monstrous ginormous cloud I just generated (and to stare in amazement . .. and then take just a moment to say, " . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . whoah, dude . .. .. . . . . .. . . . ."). So, yeah, I always wait about that long before squonking . . . . :?:

 
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I chain vape so I don't like to wait 30+ seconds for the coil to cool. I just gently blow into my drip tip for about 2 seconds after I exhale and that seems to cool the coil down enough so there is no burning. Saves a lot of time waiting to squonk that way.

A second Reo works great as well!:)
 
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