REOnauts - want a simple way to dilute & dispense unflavored Nic base

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super_X_drifter

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Well here it is:

First, get a plastic food grade condiment dispenser like this (ignore the juice that's already in it). I got mine from bed bath and beyond. Wash it out real good. The red top came from a telescoping hot dog / marshmallow roasting thing ( also from B, B & B ).


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Now get some Teflon plumbers tape and wrap it around the threads on the bottle (thanks super Trunker) or just go in bare back- it's your call. The tape will prevent leaks.

Now get a ruler - preferably one with centimeters on it and stand it up next to your bottle.

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Put a mark at the 10 cm mark (this represents 100%) like this:

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Now I'm gonna take 100mg unflavored nic base in 75% VG / 25% pg and dilute it to 10 mg nic base. I really don't care about the VG : pg ratio at this point because anything above 75% VG is good with me - even 100% VG.

So I'm gonna mark another line at 1 cm (that represents 10% or 10mg) like this:

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Now just add your nic base to the 1cm mark and then fill to the 10cm mark with VG. Walla - 10 mg nic base from 100 mg nic base and no syringes, beakers, Bunsen burners, pipettes, flasks or Petrie dishes. Now go fill your REO bottles :)

Notes:

1. If you wanted 5 mg, you'd make your bottom mark at .5cm. If you wanted 24 mg you'd make your bottom mark at 2.4cm - get it?

2. The 10cm mark never changes. That will always represent your upper fill line.

3. Don't try to fill your bottle higher (raising the 100% mark) because you have to shake your juice before every use. You need head space to shake. Also note that this is gonna last weeks or months. I prefer to mix up small batches like this while my mothership of nic base and VG is resting in cryosleep (in a freezer). The nic base is portioned into 3 oz glass bottles (also from B, B & B) and I only remove them to fill to my 1 cm mark then return to the freezer. Here's what I mean:

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Diluting nic base does not have to be complicated as you can see but I do urge you to read about safe handling of nic (especially in strengths above 48mg) before you just start getting after it. Nic base is poison and protective measures are detailed in DIY forums on here.
Educate yourself on dealing with nic base, then when you understand that, apply it to my simple methods to dilute and dispense.

Also note that I no longer screw around with those small mouth glass bottles or small mouth anything when it comes to mixing. That just increases your chance of spillage and getting it on you. Note that my first go around involved small mouth Amber glass bottles and I spilled a lot of nic or syringed it and that's a pain in the ..... Never will I do that again.

Ol _X_ just pours stuff these days and he don't spill nothing :)

Oh, I get my nic from MFS or wizard labs. It always gets transferred to glass before going in the freezer.
 
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Nicely done. I do a lot of mixing; various juice recipes. So I do it slightly different. I keep my VG, PG, and nic base in condiment bottles like those. I use 25ml or 50ml graduated cylinders for mixing. I only use syringes for the flavors, because sometimes the required amounts are quite small. I used to measure everything with syringes; including the PG, VG, and Nic. But it really isn't necessary. The cylinders and squirt bottles are quicker.
 

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Looks like a very easy solution and I could use that to fill the 30ml bottle that I carry with me when I'm out.

I like to take 18mg flavored juice and dilute it down to 6mg with VG, looks like I could do that with some slightly different marks on the bottle.

Yep, I'd put my top line at 9 cm (100 %) and my bottom line at 3 cm (30 %). Fill to bottom line with 18mg then fill up to top line with VG. That should cut it from 18mg to 6 mg :)
 

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If you wanted 5 mg, you'd make your bottom mark at .5cm
5mg (wanted) / 100mg (have) = .05
.05 X 10cm (total hight of fluid) = .5cm (hight of 100mg fluid)

If you wanted 24 mg you'd make your bottom mark at 2.4cm
24mg (wanted) / 100mg (have) = ..24
.24 X 10cm (total hight of fluid) = 2.4cm (hight of 100mg fluid)

Got It
Thanks SXD
 
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So what are the bottles you are using? I am thinking I need to start learning and stocking. Where do I start?

Bed bath and beyond baby, bed bath and beyond.

In the bed bath and beyond where I shop, the 3 oz glass spice jars and the condiment dispensers are both on the right side of the store across from the pans and small appliances :)
 

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When mixing in big bottles like Russ does, the natural fluctuations and small errors are no big deal. but when doing this in a small bottles the errors magnify. If you are targeting 10mg using 100mg base in a 30ml bottle and get a 1 ml extra base in there you have made a 13.3 mg liquid.



Looks like a very easy solution and I could use that to fill the 30ml bottle that I carry with me when I'm out.

I like to take 18mg flavored juice and dilute it down to 6mg with VG, looks like I could do that with some slightly different marks on the bottle.

Since your base is 18mg not as big a deal, that extra ml of base would give you a 6.6mg liquid.
 

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Thanks super_X... I found the condiment bottle right where you said. I am storing my nic in small mouth glass amber bottles though... Which weren't as easy to fill up, but I decided to go that route...and I see what you mean about a pain... using a funnel... yea it could've been easier with the wide mouth jars... I might regret it once the bottle gets lower... Thanks for writing this up!
 
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When mixing in big bottles like Russ does, the natural fluctuations and small errors are no big deal. but when doing this in a small bottles the errors magnify. If you are targeting 10mg using 100mg base in a 30ml bottle and get a 1 ml extra base in there you have made a 13.3 mg liquid.



Since your base is 18mg not as big a deal, that extra ml of base would give you a 6.6mg liquid.

I'll keep that in mind if I'm ever mixing with 100mg thanks. Right now I've only messed with 36mg base. For that I measure out 8.3ml with a syringe, throw it in an empty 50ml bottle and then top off the bottle with VG. With 100ml I would be sure the be extra careful.

I started with 36mg for my first purchase of unflavored base because I wanted a little more safety while I learn. I used to vape 36mg straight, so I knew that if I got it on my skin or mixed it too strong I was still in the "safe" zone.
 
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Does one have to leave some room in the 3 oz. bottles that are put into the freezer? I'm thinking the VG nic I have doesn't actually freeze but wanted to ask before I fill those bad boys up.

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you da man Russ!

I fill mine up very close to the top :). Less headspace should equal less oxygenation of the nic base :)
 
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You said you took some nic out of the freezer to get your 1cm amount. Do you let it warm to room temp before measuring it out and then put it back in the freezer? I took a bottle out this morning to make some base, and just finished with it..Is it ok to change the temp multiple times taking it in and out of the freezer every time I need some, or do I just need to leave that bottle out at room temp
 

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I let mine come to room temp so I can mix it before removing some. I'm less worried about temp changes as I'm exposure to 02. This is why I break up bigger bottles into smaller ones, so I'm exposing less of it to 02 and most of my stash stays sealed and in deep freeze.

I have 3 liters, 2 stored in liter bottles, then I broke the third into a 500, a 250 and 2 x 125 ml bottles. When I go through both of the 125s I'll split the 250. when I go through both of those I'll break the 500 into 250 and 2 x 125. rinse and repeat.
 
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