Repainted walls after hotboxing

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Please elaborate
Basic chemistry do not allow "boiling pg and VG turn the bulk of it into water".
A vapor you are consuming is just a vapor of PG and VG, hopefully with no products of their decomposition (which can be nasty).
 

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Basic chemistry do not allow "boiling pg and VG turn the bulk of it into water".
A vapor you are consuming is just a vapor of PG and VG, hopefully with no products of their decomposition (which can be nasty).

paint guy says it's "oil" from the vape
 
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paint guy says it's "oil" from the vape

Paint guy is a ..... at least in terms of vaping.

In truth, calling what we inhale from an ecig "vapor" is a bit of a misnomer. It is really aerosolized particles of PG, VG, flavorings, and nicotine. It is not oil, it is not water.
 

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A vapor you are consuming is just a vapor of PG and VG, hopefully with no products of their decomposition (which can be nasty).

In truth, calling what we inhale from an ecig "vapor" is a bit of a misnomer. It is really aerosolized particles of PG, VG, flavorings, and nicotine. It is not oil, it is not water.

Um... Not quite. There's water in e-cig aerosol. How much depends on the exact composition of a particular ejuice (many manufacturers add water to their ejuices (especially high or 100% VG).

Comparison of select analytes in aerosol from e-cigarettes with smoke from conventional cigarettes and with ambient air - ScienceDirect

"The e-liquids tested were found to contain humectants, glycerin and/or propylene glycol, (⩾75% content); water (<20%); nicotine (approximately 2%); and flavor (<10%)."

"The bulk composition of the delivered aerosol was similar to the bulk composition of the e-liquid."

See also:

Fog machine - Wikipedia

"Typically, fog is created by vaporizing proprietary water and glycol-based or glycerin-based fluids (snip). This fluid (often referred to colloquially as fog juice) vaporizes or atomizes inside the fog machine. Upon exiting the fog machine and mixing with cooler outside air the vapor condenses, resulting in a thick visible fog." ;)
 
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Paint guy is a ..... at least in terms of vaping.

In truth, calling what we inhale from an ecig "vapor" is a bit of a misnomer. It is really aerosolized particles of PG, VG, flavorings, and nicotine. It is not oil, it is not water.

"Aerosolized", are you certain that what comes off of a hot wire is an aerosol?
 
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Not going to go through this thread and edit every occurrence of the word hotboxing, but I trust we'll no longer see any references to it from this point forward.

o_O Err... why?

I don't think he was talking about anything illicit. I am pretty sure he was referring to the act of taking long hard, and quickly repeated drags of his vaporizer. You know like hotboxing a regular cigarette when you only have 3 min left on your break and you really want to finish it before returning to work. Usually resulting in making the filter hot and often even collapsing it. If it means something else then color me clueless.

Me too. Maybe I need to get out more. :lol:
 

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I don't think he was talking about anything illicit. I am pretty sure he was referring to the act of taking long hard, and quickly repeated drags of his vaporizer. You know like hotboxing a regular cigarette when you only have 3 min left on your break and you really want to finish it before returning to work. Usually resulting in making the filter hot and often even collapsing it. If it means something else then color me clueless.
Same here, I was remembering that term from high school and it referred to long hard deep drags on a cigarette when we were hiding out in the bathroom with only 5 minutes between classes and your next class was across campus. Ha, remember that long hard ember burning on the end and almost flash frying the filter:)
 

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I guess I have lived a sheltered life too 'cause I have no idea as to why the warning o_O

To the OP. I think maybe your paint guy needs to study up a bit more. Walls need to be washed before repainting even if the home has never been smoked or vaped in because the walls will eventually get a thin film of accumulated (since I can't think of a better word) stuff on them just from everyday occupancy. Stuff from things such as cooking, showering, forced heat and/or air, humid air filled with dust particles and so on.......
 

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I guess I have lived a sheltered life too 'cause I have no idea as to why the warning o_O

To the OP. I think maybe your paint guy needs to study up a bit more. Walls need to be washed before repainting even if the home has never been smoked or vaped in because the walls will eventually get a thin film of accumulated (since I can't think of a better word) stuff on them just from everyday occupancy. Stuff from things such as cooking, showering, forced heat and/or air, humid air filled with dust particles and so on.......

ME thinks someone didn't smoke too many cigarettes in his day to not know what that particular word means.. cause this is why we don't allow others to take a drag off our cigarettes because they ALWAYS do that thing that can no longer be named...

hahahaha

I found it hilarious myself, that we don't know the meaning of the word..the definition is easily found via Quora..
 
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read a lot in threads and such bout vaping leaves no residue on walls
just finished repainting the walls cause the started whitening. I usually vape with windows open but recently started hotboxing just for the heck of it. I noticed whitening before I was hotboxing but it was not big enough to cause concern but after a couple of months of hot boxing the room looked like it was smeared by a snowman try to claw his way out of my room
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lol... I wouldn't know why your residue would be white. Is there some sort of food coloring in your ejuice? At what wattage do you vape to get so much?

I am not so certain, like the others, why vaping would cause it...at least in that color and quantity.
 

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Yep, you can't have a drag because you will H_ _ B _ _ it. I did find little droplets on the walls of my room where I do the majority of my vaping, I ventured a taste and it was oily and since vape juice is not an oil.... I investigated further and it was my ceiling fan, apparently a bearing went out, so no wall vapor here.
 

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Gofishtix, I applaud and shudder at your willingness to scrape stuff off paint and put it in your mouth.... Although, there's plenty of stuff floating through the Air, I guess.....

I have not noticed any changes in color in my paint since starting vaping (except that the husband painted the living room mint green), it's nice. We purchased this place off a Drug Lord doing some laundering (no joke, the neighbors informed us, no wonder they accepted our considerably under value bid, LOL) and the color scheme leaves something to be desired it's ah, gaudy?

Never mind the "loadbearing walls" that I can poke my fingers into, but it's just astonishingly ugly. We have a really orangy peach going on as an overall theme, bright pink in one bedroom, DARRRK blue in another, and turquoise blue in the master bedroom. I wouldn't mind if vaping changed my wall colors in the slightest, but so far, no dice. Nothing's gonna but starting over with a few coats of primer, LOL.

Smoking darkens paint quite a bit, me and my roommate's room in college was the smoking hangout room, there was usually SOMEONE in there smoking and well, you know, having a nice time. Only the paint was at LEAST three shades darker, as we discovered when removing our posters. I did briefly ponder the implications of this for my lungs, then continued packing so that I could ah, rest with a lovely cold beverage and enter the state of suitably relaxed before my parents showed up to cart me home for the summer, heh.


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Gofishtix, I applaud and shudder at your willingness to scrape stuff off paint and put it in your mouth.... Although, there's plenty of stuff floating through the Air, I guess.....

I have not noticed any changes in color in my paint since starting vaping (except that the husband painted the living room mint green), it's nice. We purchased this place off a Drug Lord doing some laundering (no joke, the neighbors informed us, no wonder they accepted our considerably under value bid, LOL) and the color scheme leaves something to be desired it's ah, gaudy?

Never mind the "loadbearing walls" that I can poke my fingers into, but it's just astonishingly ugly. We have a really orangy peach going on as an overall theme, bright pink in one bedroom, DARRRK blue in another, and turquoise blue in the master bedroom. I wouldn't mind if vaping changed my wall colors in the slightest, but so far, no dice. Nothing's gonna but starting over with a few coats of primer, LOL.

Smoking darkens paint quite a bit, me and my roommate's room in college was the smoking hangout room, there was usually SOMEONE in there smoking and well, you know, having a nice time. Only the paint was at LEAST three shades darker, as we discovered when removing our posters. I did briefly ponder the implications of this for my lungs, then continued packing so that I could ah, rest with a lovely cold beverage and enter the state of suitably relaxed before my parents showed up to cart me home for the summer, heh.


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We recently hired an interior decorator who painted our walls a Mojito Green and then Coral accents. I feel like I live inside a watermelon. She also painted my walls verdigris green even though everything in my room is blue and red and gold.
 
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My husband is still dual using, so there are still some cigarettes being smoked in my house. I have to wash the walls periodically but no longer know if its the smokes or the vaping, or even how much vaping contributes.

But, you have to love paint that is washable! :) I recommend it, I would hate to have to repaint continually, walls have to be washed, especially around light switches and doorways..

Am I the only one who makes sure to purchase washable paint? lol.. am I the only one who regularly washes walls?

I hope not, typing all this I am starting to sound OCD.. hahaha
 
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