Replacement batteries Istick 50w

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sbc83

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I'll be honest, work is a little slow today...

What are the most powerful, long lasting 18650 batteries that would work in the istick 50w? I vape religiously with 1.8 ohm bcc @ 7 watts so I don't need a battery capable of high amp draws. But you can suggest whatever you think would work well.

I read good thing about the Sony 20 and 25r, hows the 32r?
 

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If you can find them the vtc5 would be your best bet. Other than that I would normally recommend the vtc4 but since mah is your goal I would play it same and go with Samsung 25r.

What is wrong with the current batts in the istick?

I'm confused. Are you looking for a project to do; and replace the 18650 cells currently in the device? Vaping at those levels, the battery
in the iStick 50 will last you a very, very long time.
Here's a link out to a disassmble article: eLeaf iStick disassembled



No no, nothing is wrong with them. I just like to tinker and would like to see just how much life is possible with a good higher mah combo.

P.s. I'm pretty sure I was the first one to post MSNikias blog post in the istick owners thread last week. ;)
 
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No no, nothing is wrong with them. I just like to tinker and would like to see just how much life is possible with a good higher mah combo.

P.s. I'm pretty sure I was the first one to post MSNikias blog post in the istick owners thread last week. ;)

What is it now 4400? If you had some vtc5 you would be at 5200 and some good 25r batts will get you 5000 mah. Tinker away.
 

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Panasonic does 18650 in 3400 mAh's, mod it with those...

Here's the datasheet, if you're interested.
Test of Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh (Green)

Not a high amp draw battery. 5A is extremely low and with companies fudging their ratings, this battery is probably an extremely low draw battery. No way I would trust that battery to fire anything in a box mod reliably.
 
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Not a high amp draw battery. 5A is extremely low and with companies fudging their ratings, this battery is probably an extremely low draw battery. No way I would trust that battery to fire anything in a box mod reliably.

Poor association of a reputable company to the likes of MXJO/Efest/ETC. that simply re-wrap others products.
I agree, it is not A Vapors battery be any means.
 

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Not a high amp draw battery. 5A is extremely low and with companies fudging their ratings, this battery is probably an extremely low draw battery. No way I would trust that battery to fire anything in a box mod reliably.
I have other batteries (VTC5, Samsung 25r, efest purple) but since I vape at 15watts with a 1.2ohm coil, I tend to use these in all of my mods. They work well and last a long time. I think they are rated at 7 amps but this is good enough if you do not plan to sub-ohm. At the levels that I use, I am only pulling about 3.5amps.
 

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I replaced the battery in the Istick 20 W. The maximum current draw from the battery in the iStick 20W is 5.5 Ampere.
The battery installed in the iStick is a cilindrical Li-poly of good quality, with 50 milliOhm internal resistance. It is marked "18650" but in reality is a 18630, it is two millimeter shorter than a standard 18650. In any case the shortness is taken care with sticky foam pads, so a standard 18650 cell will properly fit the iStick 20 W.
The Panasonic NCR18650B is a hybrid LiNiMnAlCo cathode, graphite anode battery, rated at 2C - or 7 Ampere maximum continous current draw. Provided it is original, the NCR18650B makes the best absolute replacement for the iStick 20, as its maximum current rating is lower than the maximum draw of the mod.
The iStick (and all mods in general) uses a smaller cycle voltage window than the NCR1850B is capable. This because the built-in Li-Poly cell is more delicate and is rated for much higher maximum current, around 15 Amperes, at the expense of cycle life. (Li-Poly are thermodinamically similar to Li-Co, which are bricked if brought, even briefly, below 3 V OCV). While you can expect 700 cycles with the Panasonic (if original), the original Li-poly will drop at 80% capacity after only 200 full cycles. For a normal vaper, charging the iStick every other day, 200 full cycles are one year and half. With the Panasonic 18650B, the LED display of the iStick 20W will be dimmed to nothing and the 510 threads will be ground to dust before requiring replacement after five years of use. Please note that, because of the reduced cycle window, the NCR18650B will behave more like a 2600 mAh battery. Also consider that the NCR18650B contains a PTC protection which brings the total internal resistance to 100 milliOhm. I kept account of this when, above, I stated that the battery behaves as a 2600 mAh battery. The PTC adds a notable layer of safety, should to iStick be subjected to an electrical or mechanical incident, or abuse.
In the iStick 50 W, the NCR18650 is not suitable. Li-Poly remains the best choice for that kind of power. I think they can be sourced directly in China on Alibaba. In any case, hybrid 18650 cells will not work safely. Only Li-Mn batteries of know quality (AW preferably, I would say are the ONLY choice) can be used to replace the Li-Poly cells in the iStick 50 W. In any case, it is a problem that you will face in 18 months time. For the time being, I am now buying only mods with replaceable cells, to avoid future headaches.
 
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Try the new.... just hitting the market...
18650 Samsung 3000mAh INR18650-30Q High Discharge Flat Top
Specifications:
Nominal Capacity: 3000 mAh
Nominal Voltage: 3.6V
Discharge End Voltage: 2.5V
Max. Continuous Discharging Current: 15A
Dimensions:
64.85mm (L) x 18.33 mm (D)
Should be perfect for all iSticks, and will afford 6000mAh in the iStick 50w with good amp output.
I'm running these in a Sigelei Mini 30W and they are awesome! Would love to see a 30R-32R version.
Seems to be the sweetspot so far between mAh vs amps.
samsung30q_1.jpg


You'll also find this one will work well too...
18650 3000mah max 20A INR18650HG2 LG Chem 3.6V imr18650 battery / 20A
1. Nominal Capacity: 3000mAh
2. Nominal Voltage: 3.6V
3. Standard Charge
Constant current: 1500mA
Constant voltage: 4.2V
End condition(Cut off): 50mA
4. Fast Charge
Constant current: 4000mA
Constant voltage: 4.2V
End condition(Cut off): 100mA
5. Max. Charge Voltage: 4.2 ± 0.05V
6. Max. Charge Current: 4000mA
7. Standard Discharge
Constant current: 600mA(0.2C)
End voltage(Cut off): 2.5V
8. Max.Continuous Discharge Current: 20A
9. Weight: Max.47.0g
10. Dimension: Max.(D)18.5*(H)65.2mm

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