reply from Phillip Morris International

[shadow]

On the 15th March I sent an email to PMI asking there views on E CIGS i have just recieved there reply this morning.
Thank you for contacting Philip Morris International.

We are aware that electronic cigarettes are currently available in some markets.

The availability of various new products today, including non-tobacco products, such as the e-cigarette, demonstrates the need for regulation that would provide for assessment of these new products. This is something we support and which we have been discussing with various governments. Regulation would ensure that claims made by manufacturers are substantiated by sound scientific data and that consumers receive appropriate information about the risk, if any, posed by the products.

Developing products with the potential to reduce the risk of tobacco related diseases is one of PMI’s goals and we are working relentlessly to achieve this.

With best wishes,
Philip Morris International
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I think its more like working relentlessly to take over the market.

 

[macar44]

Why does my Bull @#$% alarm go off after reading that.

 

[surbitonPete]

We are working relentlessly to find something that will make us loads and loads of dosh!

 

[twolostminds]

I'm kind of disappointed with Phillip Morris' response. Is that the best they can come up with after two months?

 

[OutWest]

The availability of various new products today, including non-tobacco products, such as the e-cigarette, demonstrates the need for regulation that would provide for assessment of these new products. This is something we support and which we have been discussing with various governments.

in my opinion, that translates as: if it's not one of our tobacco-based products, we've been encouraging countries to ban them until manufacturers have put them through extensive (and cost-prohibitive) clinical trials.

 

[NicoNut]

I think it's more like working relentlessly to take over the world!

 

[davidb]

Why does my Bull @#$% alarm go off after reading that.

I very much agree. Has anyone seen the document on HBO, also downloadable? It reminds me of the responce the Intel Design people say when they are combating evolution. They "support" it and "agree" with a lot of it, but say there just has to be more....and that there still isent enough proof.

 

[planetofthevapes]

I thought of a million ways to respond to that...I erased every one and substituted this.

ROFLMAO

Sorry, it makes me giggle when they act like they want us all to quit so that they can stop making money

ROFLMAO

 

[TropicalBob]

Every move they make is to (1) make money to stay atop Big Tobacco Mountain; (2) mitigate damage awards to spouses of smokers their products killed.

 

[skyfly]

They make cigarettes. Clinical trials have already PROVEN they are hazardous!!! They still make them and make a lot of money doing it. It is such BS that they have the nerve to suggest ecigs need to be tested more when their product is PROVEN to be usafe and they contunue selling them.

 

[Tin Cup]

Let's see... in the US there are about 300 million people. 75% of those are over 18. That's 225 million people.

20% of those are smokers (45 million) who average about a pack a day, at an average cost of 5 bucks a pack.

That's 225 millions dollars EVERY DAY, folks. The local, state and federal governments get about half, and the other half goes to the tobacco companies.

You think we've got a fight???

The government is raking in over $100,000,000 EACH AND EVERY DAY from cigarettes! And so are the tobacco companies!

There is no way they are gonna roll over and play dead on this one. There's just too much money at stake.

Let's not fool ourselves. We're in for one heck of a battle in trying to get e-cigs legalized.

Just my two cents worth...



TC

 

[DarthVaper]

They make cigarettes. Clinical trials have already PROVEN they are hazardous!!! They still make them and make a lot of money doing it. It is such BS that they have the nerve to suggest ecigs need to be tested more when their product is PROVEN to be usafe and they contunue selling them.

+1 Phillip Morris is full of hypocritical B.S. I wish I could take back all the money I gave them.

 

[Boston George]

Altira is one of the best run companies on the planet. If you want a great stock for your 401k, look no further than MO. If e-cigs stay legal, they will be buying out one of the companies in china.


*Disclosure I own stock in Altira (MO), Do not take my advise without talking to your financial professional.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

I have been waiting to use this one for awhile:

 

[funkyness]

They make cigarettes. Clinical trials have already PROVEN they are hazardous!!! They still make them and make a lot of money doing it. It is such BS that they have the nerve to suggest ecigs need to be tested more when their product is PROVEN to be usafe and they contunue selling them.

i so agree with this!!!!! i find it disgusting really.

 

[MustangDriver36]

Funny because they have had extensive testing done on their product and it has been proven to kill more people than anything ever created but yet the poison of man goes on!Glad to see extensive testing has worked so well for them.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Funny because they have had extensive testing done on their product and it has been proven to kill more people than anything ever created but yet the poison of man goes on!Glad to see extensive testing has worked so well for them.

Or that they could have taken note on this extensive testing and come out with a possibly safer product... like the ecig.

I still say for all of those who are still using tobacco (which I think is fine by the way... just goes to show that the ecig is not an NRT but an alternative) If you are using a Philip Morris product, perhaps a switch might be in order? Support one of the other tobacco companies??? Just a thought.

 

[Storyspinr]

That response is precisely why I will NEVER purchase Phillip Morris tobacco products.

They built a huge, multi-million dollar research facility just outside Richmond, Va., to develop a "safer cigarette". They could have saved a lot of money and time if they had just bought one of the Chinese e cig companies.....

 

[DarthVaper]

That response is precisely why I will NEVER purchase Phillip Morris tobacco products.

They built a huge, multi-million dollar research facility just outside Richmond, Va., to develop a "safer cigarette". They could have saved a lot of money and time if they had just bought one of the Chinese e cig companies.....

Yeah, but then they would stop getting tax deductions for population control.

 

[nibb]

Just my 2 cents.

E-cigs cannot be banned. They have vapor. That cannot be banned. nicotine, well if they ban that cigarrettes go with them too and another ingredient used on tooth paste approved by the FDA already.

It would be crazy to ban it. There is no legal sustentation excepto greed money and power.

Now what about Marlboro, PM, etc do?

Do you really think they care about their tabaco farms? No. They care about money. If they could sell cigarrettes without cancer they would.

So what would they do?

A) Buy the fabrics in China and kill the market
B) Start making their own e-cgis with their own flavors
C) From their china or US plants

They would just move into the new market if they can make a buck out of it.

Now, they would try to force they cartridges on the public and try to ban all the others.

They would also put the same stuff they put in their cigarrettes in there. That means tar, and allot of quimicals which makes you addictive.

They are not tabaco industries. Thats a lie. The cigarrette is just a way to get the poison or drug to the people. Thats why pipes and cigards arent popular. They control they media to put the drug on the mouth.

Their business is all about the secret ingredient. They spend millons of $$$ on private secret research to find a way to invent new drugs that are completeley invisible but form up in combustion with smoke. So you can investigate a cigarrette and it doesnt have nothing except all the stuff we know already. Its all about the mix, when it burns its highly addictive. They have big labs where they research how to make the most addictive product as they can and as invisible as possible.

Now if they dont like the e-cigs its just because they still cannot find a way to control the market and put their on formular on the cartridges or liquid to fill.

I would be more worried about the pharmaceutical industry. That one will push allot more to ban this things because if nobody is sick there is not business for all their cancer products.

The tabaco industry will eventually jump into the vagon. It just take some years but they cannot go against the stream.

Its just like hollywood hates Internet because of movie downloads, and News Media hate it even more because all the information control they have losed over people. Now everyone can look the things he wants and they cannot imposse their news anymore.