Resistance-No Resistance wire welder

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I have asked breaktru what he thinks about this big sob :D

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I went to Walgreens and walked out with 47 cameras! The mother load!
I have been trying to get this to work, but it's way too high! The wires disappear..

Having read that 75 v is a better range, I have modified mine by using a resistor on the primary side of the step up transformer. I haven't found the right resistance. I have a box of jumped resistors, and have gotten close. It is charging at about 100 volts.

I'll give more details, if I can get the magic 75 v.

I wonder if the dip switches in the Greek product is turning on different resistors, to modify the output voltage?
 

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Where did you find that mombo thing? Holy crap. LOL

It's from a big boy flash for an old 35mm slr type camera (my grandparents ages ago)....I remembered my son had been playing with it and couldn't get the flash to work. When I took it apart I noticed that there was some corrosion inside around one of the battery connections.
 

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Hahaha. Nice. I'll bet that thing would wake you up in a hurry.

It's from a big boy flash for an old 35mm slr type camera (my grandparents ages ago)....I remembered my son had been playing with it and couldn't get the flash to work. When I took it apart I noticed that there was some corrosion inside around one of the battery connections.
 

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One of the cameras I got had a board similar to this. Similar minimal markings with the big momentary switch. It's too big to fit in the project box I have though.

Yeah its big....and like a dumba$$ I took it apart before testing it....and it doesn't seem to be working...it came apart really easy so im pretty sure I didn't damage anything???
 

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I have asked breaktru what he thinks about this big sob :D

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Bap, that should work - I want to try an even larger cap (and no, I don't mean physically larger)! The larger sizes would slow the charging rate, and if coupled with a resistor, could charge even slower, allowing more time to get to the 75V range without blowing past it and having to discharge. The trick with the resistor in the primary sounds kinda good; but not sure if it might effect the oscillation eventually. The correct way to knock down the voltage would be to remove windings - a little tough to do, though.
 

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I went to Walgreens and walked out with 47 cameras! The mother load!
I have been trying to get this to work, but it's way too high! The wires disappear..

Having read that 75 v is a better range, I have modified mine by using a resistor on the primary side of the step up transformer. I haven't found the right resistance. I have a box of jumped resistors, and have gotten close. It is charging at about 100 volts.

I'll give more details, if I can get the magic 75 v.

I wonder if the dip switches in the Greek product is turning on different resistors, to modify the output voltage?

why the resistor when you can control the charge with the button?

Different circuitry in the Tsfa
 

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I went to Walgreens and walked out with 47 cameras! The mother load!
I have been trying to get this to work, but it's way too high! The wires disappear..

Having read that 75 v is a better range, I have modified mine by using a resistor on the primary side of the step up transformer. I haven't found the right resistance. I have a box of jumped resistors, and have gotten close. It is charging at about 100 volts.

I'll give more details, if I can get the magic 75 v.

I wonder if the dip switches in the Greek product is turning on different resistors, to modify the output voltage?

The DIP switches in the original were most likely used for resistors, but they were used to vary a DC-DC boost converter - thast was what he was using to charge the cap. If I remember correctly, he was using a 1000µF - 2000µF cap and the voltages were around 28 - 40 volts DC.
 

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Yeah its big....and like a dumba$$ I took it apart before testing it....and it doesn't seem to be working...it came apart really easy so im pretty sure I didn't damage anything???

I might just go grab a fuji (and test it before tearing it apart) and then just take the cap off the kodak
 

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That is closer to the original design. Lower voltage, higher uf cap. I have all the stuff to build one except a functioning voltage booster, I just got my refund on the bad one today so I might try a differant brand. I know a few of you guys have used the same booster board before, any recommendations on where to buy (us seller preferred)?

if you are going for a DC-DC controller (step-up) you need one that can go as high as 40V. I'm waiting on mine from china. The link is somewhere in this thread. You know where to find the link for it.... hint
 

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Breaktru, after you added the additional capacitance to your original, what was the range of voltages needed for welding various types of wire? I know that you were using around 75V for silver, but what about other gages and such? At one time you were up to about 165V.

The overall voltage required must have gone down due to the greater charge stored by the larger capacitance.
 
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