Reynolds bill in South Carolina (H 4074) would tax, require license to sell “vapor products”

[DC2]

The organization was done by the SC Vendors.

That's exactly the way it should be.

I've been working on a plan to get large-scale vendor involvement in these matters.
I am waiting for feedback from CASAA right now, but it seems they are starting to focus on this very issue themselves.

I wish I could attend the meetings, but family obligations prevent me from being available on Sunday evenings.
I can only hope they are thinking along the same lines as me, or have an even better idea!

 

[dagnagan]

South Carolina Legislature Mobile

Go here and you can click on a link for a live broacast of the commitee meeting. Right now a tedious discussion of other stuff, but hopefully they'll get to the Reynolds bill soon.

 

[Bill Godshall]

South Carolina Senate Judiciary Cmte has recommended passage of bill (H 3538) to ban sale of “alternative nicotine products” to minors, and to require online retailers in South Carolina to use an expensive, unreliable and consumer unfriendly third party age verification service.
South Carolina Legislature Mobile
2013-2014 Bill 3538: Tobacco products - South Carolina Legislature Online

Interestingly, H 3538 (sponsored by Lorillard) had already been passed by the SC House before Reynolds even introduced its bill (H 4074) to tax and regulate "vapor products".

 

[Berylanna]

How can they tell them WHICH service to use?

What about identity verification like ECF uses?

 

[dagnagan]

The commitee voted to adjourn debate on the bill, so we've got time to further educate legislators. Judging from some body language and reading between the lines, they have already gotten more reaction than they expected.

 

[salemgold]

There's only a couple of us that post. There's not going to be any activity in here.

I know .................

 

[randyith]

I know .................

Salem,

Where should I post in South Carolina?

 

[Pokeygizmo]

How do you guys organize? Is there a Facebook page or something?

Yes, there is a South Carolina Vapers Forum on FB

There is also a petition that could use a LOT more signatures--and not restricted to residents

http://www.change.org/petitions/south-carolina-legislatures-not-pass-bill-h-4074-sc

 

[DC2]

I may have already signed it, but if not I signed it again.

 

[BlueSnake]

Update form Vapingzone posted elsewhere:

"Just left the Statehouse. Bill 4074 was tabled for further debate. We should not see this bill again until next year, but we already have our lobbyists working on it for next year. Our lobbyists did their job and did it very well. This is the outcome that we wanted for now. We will have to keep working for our ultimate goal.

There is still a possibility that they can call it back to the floor, but when they voted on tabling the bill, there was only one "nay" vote. So hopefully this will not happen. Our lobbyists will keep me posted and I will let you know of any updates when I receive them."

 

[AgentAnia]

Signed the petition.

Thanks for the update, BlueSnake. Encouraging, but still calls for vigilence.

I emailed VapingZone to thank them for their efforts.

 

[salemgold]

Salem,

Where should I post in South Carolina?

There is a SC subforum here but, little to no activity there either. Do you know something that we don't? This would be a good place to post.

 

[salemgold]

South Carolina Senate Judiciary Cmte has recommended passage of bill (H 3538) to ban sale of “alternative nicotine products” to minors, and to require online retailers in South Carolina to use an expensive, unreliable and consumer unfriendly third party age verification service.
South Carolina Legislature Mobile
2013-2014 Bill 3538: Tobacco products - South Carolina Legislature Online

Interestingly, H 3538 (sponsored by Lorillard) had already been passed by the SC House before Reynolds even introduced its bill (H 4074) to tax and regulate "vapor products".

Thanks for that update. It could have been worse, I guess. Sounds a lot like what just happened in NC.

 

[BlueSnake]

I believe this is just the opening salvo. The real fight will probably start next year. Think of how they initially got cigarettes and BT, state by state. I think BT learned form this and will use a similar strategy to come after vaping to try and corner the market for themselves. JMHO

 

[salemgold]

I believe this is just the opening salvo. The real fight will probably start next year. Think of how they initially got cigarettes and BT, state by state. I think BT learned form this and will use a similar strategy to come after vaping to try and corner the market for themselves. JMHO

I fear that you might just be right about that.

 

[mgmrick]

Another bullet dodged for now but this seems to be coming up in other states with same results for now

 

[Bill Godshall]

Except that yesterday the South Carolina Senate approved (with a 42-2 vote) another bill (H 3538) that would ban the sale of “alternative nicotine products” to minors, and require online retailers in South Carolina to use costly and consumer unfriendly third party age verification services for each purchase (which, along with State enforcement, will drive online e-cigarette vendors in SC out of business, and give their business to out-of-state online competitors).
South Carolina Legislature Mobile
2013-2014 Bill 3538: Tobacco products - South Carolina Legislature Online

Since H 3538 was already passed by the House (with a 99-0 vote), it now goes to the Governor for his signature or veto.

While Reynolds and CASAA were fighting over H 4074, Lorillard lobbyists quickly and quietly got H 3548 through the SC legislature.

 

[Elnroth]

And lorillard finally shows its true colors. This is completely out of control.

If only the media did real work and reported on such underhanded tactics.

 

[AgentAnia]

I don't suppose there's any chance the Governor will veto the bill?

 

[Elnroth]

I don't suppose there's any chance the Governor will veto the bill?

Bury him with good old fashioned snail mail?