RichMan Vapors Rebuildable Atomizer coming soon

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Schnarph

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I may add duel 1mm air hole top caps in the future. :)

While this is not a bad idea at all, and options are always nice, just having extra top caps for sale by themselves should be good enough for most of your customers. I would want 2 top caps, one with one air hole and one with 2, giving me the option of dual or single coil without needing 2 full rba's. I'm not aware of anyone selling AGAT top caps by themselves, which is why I have 2 (+1 spare). This brings me to another topic I would like addressed:

Is there an ETA on V2 top caps sold by themselves?
Will the hybrid be one unit, or can we use our existing Richman's rba?
Have you given any thought to using a metal more conductive than stainless steel in a future revision, like aluminum, brass, or possibly copper?

I only recently discovered that aluminum conducts better than brass, and silver is better than anything. Copper is almost 25% more conductive than gold, but gold is the best conductor of electricity that does not corrode (which is why it is used in so many applications). I've made a few mods out of copper and while it may require more occasional polishing, it's conductivity is far superior to stainless steel. Silver is the best, but tarnishes very quickly which would make for many unhappy customers, not to mention it's a bit expensive.

FYI, these 4th of July sales have been extremely tempting, but I'm continuing to wait for your hybrid. The last thing I need is another sigelei that requires extensive modification to reach an acceptable voltage drop.
 

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Added a hole and yet another wick configuration

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While this is not a bad idea at all, and options are always nice, just having extra top caps for sale by themselves should be good enough for most of your customers. I would want 2 top caps, one with one air hole and one with 2, giving me the option of dual or single coil without needing 2 full RBA's. I'm not aware of anyone selling AGAT top caps by themselves, which is why I have 2 (+1 spare). This brings me to another topic I would like addressed:

Is there an ETA on V2 top caps sold by themselves?
Will the hybrid be one unit, or can we use our existing Richman's RBA?
Have you given any thought to using a metal more conductive than stainless steel in a future revision, like aluminum, brass, or possibly copper?

I only recently discovered that aluminum conducts better than brass, and silver is better than anything. Copper is almost 25% more conductive than gold, but gold is the best conductor of electricity that does not corrode (which is why it is used in so many applications). I've made a few mods out of copper and while it may require more occasional polishing, it's conductivity is far superior to stainless steel. Silver is the best, but tarnishes very quickly which would make for many unhappy customers, not to mention it's a bit expensive.

FYI, these 4th of July sales have been extremely tempting, but I'm continuing to wait for your hybrid. The last thing I need is another Sigelei that requires extensive modification to reach an acceptable voltage drop.

The v2 caps will be available around the same time as the hybrids. All battery contacts and center post including the internals are copper with 24k gold plated.
 

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My mind was wandering today and I came up with some ideas I thought might be worth sharing. Apologies for the lousy sketches that aren't to scale!:facepalm:

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I was trying to depict an "Extended Length" top cap in the top two drawings, essentially fusing the skirt that covers the uppermost portion of the glass tank with the top cap. Even though it would nearly double the length of the top cap it would look pretty sexy eliminating the cap seam for a more streamlined appearance. This look might fit well on the hybrid.

Abstracting more I figured this could be accomplished with the existing O-Rings around the base of the deck or alternatively replace those O-Rings with threading (also thread the extended length top cap). Oh man that's a mouthful "Extended Length Screw-On Top Cap". Maybe for V3!

The bottom sketch utilizes the current design and the renders I've seen for v2 (nothing to do with what I described above). Instead of having a fixed lip around the deck, the lip would consist of a threaded sleeve with say...a 1/16" hole in the side. When tightened down on the deck, the hole in the sleeve would line up with the wick hole on the deck and be level with the positive post in height. The top cap could be held in place over this sleeve with O-Rings and could be rotated to close or open the air flow.

You could play around with the indications for proper alignment.. "Line up the RM Crest on the top cap with the "RM Sword" on the skirt and you're good to vape."

I don't know if any of this is feasible, I just like thinking outside the box! :vapor:
 
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Regardless of the final product, I will be in on the pre-order for the V1 hybrid. It has not been specified but I assume it is not a telescoping battery tube but instead a fixed size(+1 for non-telescoping). Whether you decide to sell it with 18350, 18650, or both tubes is entirely up to you (+1 for both sizes). I am no fan of the Kick (Stomp), but a threaded extension piece to allow for a Kick is one way to appease the crowd for future revisions and those with 18490/18500 batteries(+1 for 18500 no Kick). It would be completely within the expectations of consumers to buy a tube extension piece to allow for a Kick or the odd battery size (18490/18500). I assume you plan on future revisions, it not only allows for unplanned obsolescence but more income as well. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I only mean to encourage you when the inevitable negative critiques and end-user modifications arise. I don't believe any e-cigarette designer has ever listened to the customers as well as you have evosil98, and I have the highest regard for your business practices. Bravo sir!

Not to give you more than you can handle all at once, but I should bring up the use of 14500 batteries at some point. For those wanting a more "stealthy" vape, the options are extremely limited. There are already a decent amount of RDA's that fit the width of a standard Ego battery, but there are almost no 14500 mechanical devices at all. It may be a niche market, but one that IMHO deserves exploitation. An RBA/hybrid that uses 14500 batteries would be a collection piece without a doubt. Ego threading is on it's way out, so don't even think about it! Sorry if that was too much at once, just trying to help. ;)
 

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That's some good stuff right there PB!

Thanks! I'm glad that was understandable. I'm curious what Rich will think.

Regardless of the final product, I will be in on the pre-order for the V1 hybrid. It has not been specified but I assume it is not a telescoping battery tube but instead a fixed size(+1 for non-telescoping). Whether you decide to sell it with 18350, 18650, or both tubes is entirely up to you (+1 for both sizes). I am no fan of the Kick (Stomp), but a threaded extension piece to allow for a Kick is one way to appease the crowd for future revisions and those with 18490/18500 batteries(+1 for 18500 no Kick). It would be completely within the expectations of consumers to buy a tube extension piece to allow for a Kick or the odd battery size (18490/18500). I assume you plan on future revisions, it not only allows for unplanned obsolescence but more income as well. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I only mean to encourage you when the inevitable negative critiques and end-user modifications arise. I don't believe any e-cigarette designer has ever listened to the customers as well as you have evosil98, and I have the highest regard for your business practices. Bravo sir!

Not to give you more than you can handle all at once, but I should bring up the use of 14500 batteries at some point. For those wanting a more "stealthy" vape, the options are extremely limited. There are already a decent amount of RDA's that fit the width of a standard Ego battery, but there are almost no 14500 mechanical devices at all. It may be a niche market, but one that IMHO deserves exploitation. An RBA/hybrid that uses 14500 batteries would be a collection piece without a doubt. Ego threading is on it's way out, so don't even think about it! Sorry if that was too much at once, just trying to help. ;)

Agreed! Choice in the battery form factor is always welcomed and definitely a solid choice to tempt more potential buyers toward your product. I got curious about smaller vapes and ordered a brass Bagua with the Arrow RBA; should be here next week!

I would purchase a Richman RDA styled along the lines of the IGO-W if made. Heck I would buy a 14500 hybrid RDA if that came about as well.
 

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My mind was wandering today and I came up with some ideas I thought might be worth sharing. Apologies for the lousy sketches that aren't to scale!:facepalm:

13070001.jpg


I was trying to depict an "Extended Length" top cap in the top two drawings, essentially fusing the skirt that covers the uppermost portion of the glass tank with the top cap. Even though it would nearly double the length of the top cap it would look pretty sexy eliminating the cap seam for a more streamlined appearance. This look might fit well on the hybrid.

Abstracting more I figured this could be accomplished with the existing O-Rings around the base of the deck or alternatively replace those O-Rings with threading (also thread the extended length top cap). Oh man that's a mouthful "Extended Length Screw-On Top Cap". Maybe for V3!

The bottom sketch utilizes the current design and the renders I've seen for v2 (nothing to do with what I described above). Instead of having a fixed lip around the deck, the lip would consist of a threaded sleeve with say...a 1/16" hole in the side. When tightened down on the deck, the hole in the sleeve would line up with the wick hole on the deck and be level with the positive post in height. The top cap could be held in place over this sleeve with O-Rings and could be rotated to close or open the air flow.

You could play around with the indications for proper alignment.. "Line up the RM Crest on the top cap with the "RM Sword" on the skirt and you're good to vape."

I don't know if any of this is feasible, I just like thinking outside the box! :vapor:

Very nice drawing. Thank you for sharing. So it is a one piece top cap with an adjustable air hole?

As for RDA, I currently do not use RDA's but I am always open to new ideas. :)
 

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Regardless of the final product, I will be in on the pre-order for the V1 hybrid. It has not been specified but I assume it is not a telescoping battery tube but instead a fixed size(+1 for non-telescoping). Whether you decide to sell it with 18350, 18650, or both tubes is entirely up to you (+1 for both sizes). I am no fan of the Kick (Stomp), but a threaded extension piece to allow for a Kick is one way to appease the crowd for future revisions and those with 18490/18500 batteries(+1 for 18500 no Kick). It would be completely within the expectations of consumers to buy a tube extension piece to allow for a Kick or the odd battery size (18490/18500). I assume you plan on future revisions, it not only allows for unplanned obsolescence but more income as well. It's nothing to be ashamed of, I only mean to encourage you when the inevitable negative critiques and end-user modifications arise. I don't believe any e-cigarette designer has ever listened to the customers as well as you have evosil98, and I have the highest regard for your business practices. Bravo sir!

Not to give you more than you can handle all at once, but I should bring up the use of 14500 batteries at some point. For those wanting a more "stealthy" vape, the options are extremely limited. There are already a decent amount of RDA's that fit the width of a standard Ego battery, but there are almost no 14500 mechanical devices at all. It may be a niche market, but one that IMHO deserves exploitation. An RBA/hybrid that uses 14500 batteries would be a collection piece without a doubt. Ego threading is on it's way out, so don't even think about it! Sorry if that was too much at once, just trying to help. ;)

The current hybrid set up will come with both 18350 and 18650 tube sizes.

I actually have a 14500 mod and hybrids in the works. :)

So many future projects, I am excited to be a part of this adventure. Thank you all for the support.
 

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I've been keeping up with this thread for awhile now & I am excited about the new Hybrid mod coming out. I've been vaping 4yrs come this October. July 4th made 4yrs since I was told I had 6months to a year to live(smh) after surviving an aortic aneurysm, which left me with severe nerve damage from the waist down & handicapped. I'm a single parent of 2 teens & being "Affordable" is beyond important to me, it is imperative. I've been wanting a "Hybrid" for so long, but I've never been able to get one. I'm hoping your hybrid is around the hundred dollar mark. I know $50-$60 isn't exactly realistic, but man that would be a dream come true.:vapor: Thank you for making something American made & affordable. Its refreshing to see a US vendor that's not out for an arm, leg, kidney or blood to make a buck. Thanks for thinking about & considering the vaping consumer & those of us a little less fortunate .... Happy Vapes & stay safe
 

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Very nice drawing. Thank you for sharing. So it is a one piece top cap with an adjustable air hole?

As for RDA, I currently do not use RDA's but I am always open to new ideas. :)
It looks like the market is flooded with RDA clones already. You would need a new and unique design sold at a very low price to get into that game. The only thing separating the clones from the originals is the metal used for the resistance wire posts and hex-head set screws vs Phillip's head. It's a tough market to break into with so many perfectly usable RDA's around $10. If you had a unique design you may get some followers, as many people must have one of everything. I have my doubts that it would be as popular as your RBA though.
The current hybrid set up will come with both 18350 and 18650 tube sizes.

I actually have a 14500 mod and hybrids in the works. :)

So many future projects, I am excited to be a part of this adventure. Thank you all for the support.
Both tubes, very smart indeed. Excellent.
The Bagua (14500) mod is very popular and quite expensive considering what it is. While the etchings on it's tube and switch are very nice, it's a bit cheesy for something you stick a lithium battery inside of, and certainly can't justify the $120 asking price. The sooner you can get one of your own ready to sell the better. I would expect Bagua clones to hit the vendors any day now. As for an RBA to fit on it, the Penelope and it's clone are highly regarded but ceramic cups are not ideal by any means. It shouldn't be impossible to shrink the width of your current RBA down to fit a 14500 mod, but the the spacial restraints of a hollow center tube through the tank and wick hole have left me scratching my head. Good luck with that one!

As I said before, I'm already sold on the hybrid pre-order. I'm on the RichMan's newsletter mailing list, and I check this thread a few times a day. My anticipation level is very high!

Side note: after a couple of modifications, I am now happy with the performance of the Sigelei #20 V2 that I purchased from you. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that is uncomfortable with modding, but it works well for me now. Thanks again, keep up the great work.
 

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Yep! Sorry there were a few ideas in there that over complicated the overall concept. The simple differences boiled down to:

One piece top cap with the air sleeve. Secured with O-Rings.
One piece top cap, no air sleeve. Screws on.
Current top cap design with air sleeve. Secured with O-Rings.

When I mentioned indications for proper alignment this is what I was envisioning. Free branding brah! I had to redeem myself with some better artwork:laugh:

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Or you could call it The Hilt:p
 
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Populousbeast

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It looks like the market is flooded with RDA clones already. You would need a new and unique design sold at a very low price to get into that game. The only thing separating the clones from the originals is the metal used for the resistance wire posts and hex-head set screws vs Phillip's head. It's a tough market to break into with so many perfectly usable RDA's around $10. If you had a unique design you may get some followers, as many people must have one of everything. I have my doubts that it would be as popular as your RBA though.

Both tubes, very smart indeed. Excellent.
The Bagua (14500) mod is very popular and quite expensive considering what it is. While the etchings on it's tube and switch are very nice, it's a bit cheesy for something you stick a lithium battery inside of, and certainly can't justify the $120 asking price. The sooner you can get one of your own ready to sell the better. I would expect Bagua clones to hit the vendors any day now. As for an RBA to fit on it, the Penelope and it's clone are highly regarded but ceramic cups are not ideal by any means. It shouldn't be impossible to shrink the width of your current RBA down to fit a 14500 mod, but the the spacial restraints of a hollow center tube through the tank and wick hole have left me scratching my head. Good luck with that one!

As I said before, I'm already sold on the hybrid pre-order. I'm on the RichMan's newsletter mailing list, and I check this thread a few times a day. My anticipation level is very high!

Side note: after a couple of modifications, I am now happy with the performance of the Sigelei #20 V2 that I purchased from you. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that is uncomfortable with modding, but it works well for me now. Thanks again, keep up the great work.

I've wanted to see manufacturers try different things with the posts for RDA's. Why not use T style posts so dual coil setups aren't such a pain to thread? Why not try something with a taller positive post that made it possible to spool your wick? There's still innovation left in that area but it will definitely require some tinkering and quality materials to make a viable product.

Sidenote, The Bagua is expensive, but I can't wait until I get mine in my hands! It would be a nice birthday present if it magically got here Monday.
 
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