RTA's....

[VamoVixen]

I have been doing a bit of reading here lately on rebuildable tank atty's. I have become so sick and tired of buying new coils for my Protank only to find that the brand new coils are either already burnt, or give off a low load reading on my Vamo. I really DO NOT want to start dripping, it's just not for me and I LOVE tanks, however my husband drips, and he can build my coils and rewick anything I buy, so that won't be an issue.

My issue is finding a good RTA, and also some information on good clones? I have been looking at both the Kayfun clone and the R91% clone from Focalecig, but I just don't know if it is a good place to get a clone? I don't have a TON of $$$ laying around for expensive "real" merchandise especially now that I found out I am pregnant. I do have a Nemesis clone on the way so if I cannot use the RTA on my V5 (I don't see why I can't) then I can use it on the Nemy.

My other question which is really a concern would be air flow on an RTA. I absolutely cannot stand an airy draw, there has to be tightness to it, my protank for example is too airy for me, but I use it and deal for the most part. I want something that closely resembles the draw of a real cigarette. I do mouth hit's more than lung hits, so the tightness on the draw has to be there or I just don't feel like I am getting ANYTHING out of my atty's. So any good RTA's with a tighter, less airy draw, that is cheap, reliable, sexy, etc....available on the market and if so, what is it, and how do I get my hands on it?

Thanks

V

 

[AndriaD]

For flavor and throat hit, your best bet is absolutely a Kayfun of some kind; authentic or clone doesn't really matter that much, no matter what the authentic-snobs will say. However you may find it a bit airy, as I did, at first. I would advise some version of the Kayfun Lite Plus, which has easily adjustable airflow; you can tighten it all the way down, and there is still some flow so you don't get burnt hits; I did that at first, but I found, as I went along, that I became used to the airier setting, and now prefer it -- but without being able to adjust it, I wouldn't have given it long enough to know that.

Other than that, I am absolutely 100% thrilled with my KFL+; the flavor is superb, the TH so intense I had to backup a little on the PG; from 85/15 PG/VG to 67/33 PG/VG. I have a Tobeco clone of the KFL+ and it's excellent; perfect threading and machining throughout, and it didn't cost much; I paid $32.95 on eBay, but I've seen them for even less.

Other than that, if you really must have a very tight draw, your best bet is probably a cartotank; they have very tight draws, and I liked them very much at first, it's just that now I've tried a Kayfun, nothing else tastes as good. The one I have is a SmokTech UDCT, and it's excellent -- it's just not a kayfun.

Andria

 

[fropit]

the taigun gt works great and has the best feel like a cig draw on it that i have tried thus far,ever since i bought it i use it the most of all and i have an aqua and a couple kf and kfl clones.

keep on vaping on!

 

[Btsmokincat]

Second the Kayfun, super easy to build and maintain. I'd go with a EHPro clone such as this one: Kayfun Lite Plus V2 Clone by EHPro - 101 Vape

I know it's $40 but it is worth it. EHPro and Hcigar are known to make quality clones. Tobeco makes an OK clone (I have a KL+).

 

[Marc411]

+1 on Andria's suggestion and if you rebuild the Protank II is nice with an aero AFC replacement base.

 

[Kaiser Bob]

I'll go ahead and say Aqua. Easy to bottom fill, very hard to make a leaky build, airflow adjustable to zero and performs like a champ. If you need higher capacity the Fogger V4 is just as good. If you go Aqua and don't use juice crackers definitely get the clear tank. The Aqua is my preferred RTA though I haven't put down my Helios clone since I got it last week. Hope this helps!

 

[volume control]

My Kayfun collects dust, i use this Aqua. If you dont like that its not clear i included the clear tank link, i use that as well. Adjustable juice and air control makes it seamless to work with whatever thin or thick juice you desire

$18.00 Aqua Style Rebuildable Atomizer - 2*drip tips / hybrid connector pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$1.72 Replacement PMMA Tank for Aqua RBA Atomizer at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[VamoVixen]

Thank you for all of the suggestions! I may end up getting the Kayfun Lite clone and the Aqua from Fasttech. My issue with Fasttech is the wait time from the slow boat. I just burnt up another Kanger coil lol. I think it has to do with "owner error" on my Kanger coils, but I'm not sure. Some still taste burnt after being cleaned straight out of the package, and others it takes 2-3 days for me to burn through them.

I vape 70 VG 30 PG most of the time since that is the highest amount of VG I can get from Ahlusion's, but I may end up with 100% VG if I like the flavors from Velvet cloud. I also like my wattage between 4.5-6.0w and I don't think that helps either. I need my Nemy so I have something unregulated and my husband can build me sub ohm coils and I won't have to worry about it anymore. Andria, I don't vape nicotine, since I am officially down to 0mg's now, so I know TH will be pretty low no matter what I vape from. I just don't get the feeling of the vapor building in my mouth as I take a mouth hit, which is what bothers me.

Thanks again for the great suggestions!

V

 

[Marc411]

V

Are you using the VV or VW on your Vamo?

A little more information on how you set things up may help find the problem. As for your kKanger tanks, the tanks are great and can produce a really good vape, we can both agree that their silicia coils suck. Grab some 30 ga Kanthal and some cotton and you will love those Kangers again. You can find AFC control for those tanks for $4 or under and it just gets better.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Kayfun and R91 but those are a little large when you go out and about. The Kanger tanks get a bad rap because of the coils.

 

[Equilibrium]

I just want to chime in on the Kayfun clones. I have two by ehpro and they are awesome. The kayfun lite + has adjustable airflo so you should be able to get the draw you like. I'd go for either the ehpro or the hcigar clone. They both make great clones.

 

[Nautiboy1279]

I just want to chime in on the Kayfun clones. I have two by ehpro and they are awesome. The kayfun lite + has adjustable airflo so you should be able to get the draw you like. I'd go for either the ehpro or the hcigar clone. They both make great clones.

Equilibirum read my mind here. I completely second this information. I have tried various rebuildable tanks and the Kayfun Lite Clone (The Plus model with the adjustable airflow) is certainly my favorite. The way it wicks is when you inhale it uses a vaccum type method to wick to the coil. It is nothing less than phenomenal. Using the mouth to lung method of vaping, I can create just as much vapor as some of my RDAs with this tank. The packaging mine came in was very quality with a set of extra orings and screws and both tools needed for air flow adjustment and tank refilling. EHPro and Hcigar are top notch clones, but if you want to go a little cheaper in price and still get a phenomenal Kayfun Clone, this is the one I have been using for months and loving it at 35 bucks free shipping:

(it also comes with both the clear tank center strip, or the solid chrome, and a liquid bottle with the metal pin for easy filling of the tank. Sick kit here!)

Kayfun Lite Plus Svoemesto Vaporizer Tank RBA Atomizer Adjustable Airflow | eBay

 

[volume control]

That's a good plan, get a local kayfun to hold you over until you get that amazing aqua. The kayfun is nice and heavy so it can double up as a paper weight or self defense device once you get the aqua =)

 

[Nautiboy1279]

That's a good plan, get a local kayfun to hold you over until you get that amazing aqua. The kayfun is nice and heavy so it can double up as a paper weight or self defense device once you get the aqua =)

Not to bash the Aqua because it is a very nice RTA, and have used one before. My buddy has one and he asked me to build it for him, and it was not nearly as smooth and easy of a build as the Kayfun. Few things with the Aqua were a pain in the .... in my opinion. But once you get good at building dual coils setups (which the Aqua is more designed for. I prefer single coils), then you will be G2G. Dual coil setups are much more difficult to build than a single. Especially if your going for a perfect design where both coils light up bright at the same exact time with the same exact resistance on both coils. This is very hard to master for a beginner.

Here is yet another side by side review of the two that puts the Kayfun ahead by a narrow margin....but still...ahead lol.

Battle of the RTA's : Aqua Versus Kayfun - My Vapor Savior

 

[volume control]

Not to bash the Aqua because it is a very nice RTA, and have used one before. My buddy has one and he asked me to build it for him, and it was not nearly as smooth and easy of a build as the Kayfun. Few things with the Aqua were a pain in the .... in my opinion. But once you get good at building dual coils setups (which the Aqua is more designed for. I prefer single coils), then you will be G2G. Dual coil setups are much more difficult to build than a single. Especially if your going for a perfect design where both coils light up bright at the same exact time with the same exact resistance on both coils. This is very hard to master for a beginner.

Here is yet another side by side review of the two that puts the Kayfun ahead by a narrow margin....but still...ahead lol.

Battle of the RTA's : Aqua Versus Kayfun - My Vapor Savior

Idk you got me, I have no issue wrapping two coils that glow the same, and I find it EASIER to build on than the Kayfun, number one reason is the coils are nice and far from the deck, so easy to position over airholes, and also easy to prevent from shorting on the deck (which happened to me once on the kayfun, welded my coil to the deck, and just happened randomly during use)

Also I know some prefer single coils but in all of my builds ive come to my own conclusion/opinion that 2 is better than one. I get a warmer, thicker, and tastier vape.

Also I can rewick, recoil, etc with my aqua without draining the tank by removing the bottom with it upside down. TO recoil or rewick my kayfun requires me to drain the tank and literally disassemble the entire atomizer

Also my Kayfun would leak if left on its side and was getting low

Also I got occasional dry or weak hits when chain vaping my kayfun despite trying diff wicks, it just couldn't keep up with my juice, and if that happened, well once again I had to disassemble the entire thing just to rewick. The Aqua using peaches and cream yarn and 1/16 30gauge 1.7 duals has never given me a dry or slightly dry hit, and if it feels like its drying up cuz im chaining heavily, I just open the juice valve a little, problem solved

Also ive converted a few of my friends from kayfuns, and they all agree with me, the Aqua is a beast of an RTA. I have yet to have a person be like ugh why did you make me get this aqua I prefer my kayfun still

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I've tried the Ehpro Kayfun Lite, the Tobecco Kayfun Lite and the Hcigar Kayfun 3.1. Ehpro and Hcigar are both great. The Tobecco clones.... not so much. The threads on my Tobecco are choppy for the chimney section. By the time I get it screwed on to the atty, my hands are full of juice because the wicks were primed and they'd coat the chimney piece in the process. My husband's Tobecco doesn't have that issue. Instead, the center post was just a hair too short to hold on the block on the atty and make a connection to the battery. I resolved this with a tiny, makeshift o-ring that allowed the block to be screwed on tight enough and yet be extended enough to make a connection. This set up though, isn't all that great, because that block still comes loose sometimes, and it really affects the coils. Also, his leaks through the fill port quite a bit. He just texted me this morning, and informed me he was ready to through it through a window. I'm going to have to part with one of my Hcigar's I think...

 

[Rodeorat]

Have to say, I love both my Aqua and Kayfun, but would probably put the Aqua higher. The dual coils are a touch harder than the KFL+ single coil, but its worth it.

I dont get the bottom-filling on the Aqua though. The chamber piece would loosely fall to the top of the tank on me. Maybe my o-ring is too small.

In any case, top filling is a breeze, and I think easier. You fill it just like you fill the Kayfun from the top. Fill with juice, start threading the top on up to the oring, flip upside-down, finish threading the top. This works better on the Aqua than the KFL even.

FYI, I got my Aqua from FocalEcig. Took a month to receive it, but it works great.

 

[volume control]

Have to say, I love both my Aqua and Kayfun, but would probably put the Aqua higher. The dual coils are a touch harder than the KFL+ single coil, but its worth it.

I dont get the bottom-filling on the Aqua though. The chamber piece would loosely fall to the top of the tank on me. Maybe my o-ring is too small.

In any case, top filling is a breeze, and I think easier. You fill it just like you fill the Kayfun from the top. Fill with juice, start threading the top on up to the oring, flip upside-down, finish threading the top. This works better on the Aqua than the KFL even.

FYI, I got my Aqua from FocalEcig. Took a month to receive it, but it works great.

Heres a video I made to help my friends out with their Aquas and filling, you would also find you can stuff 3ml in this way, so its longer between fills. Its also beneficial as you can rewick/recoil without draining and cleaning the whole thing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kMjXvQlZo0

 

[VamoVixen]

V

Are you using the VV or VW on your Vamo?

A little more information on how you set things up may help find the problem. As for your kKanger tanks, the tanks are great and can produce a really good vape, we can both agree that their silicia coils suck. Grab some 30 ga Kanthal and some cotton and you will love those Kangers again. You can find AFC control for those tanks for $4 or under and it just gets better.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Kayfun and R91 but those are a little large when you go out and about. The Kanger tanks get a bad rap because of the coils.

Marc, I generally use my VW on the Vamo, I favor that for some odd reason over the voltage lol. I do have my Voltage set at 3.0 and my wattage at 3.5 to keep from burning up the coils. I would lower the voltage if and when I went with a higher wattage and vice versa. I killed a few packages of coils playing with both the VW and the VV on the Vamo. From what I understand is that the voltage is automatically adjusted when I increase or decrease my wattage, which is why I think I tend to use the wattage setting more frequently. And I use the Protank 2's.....

 

[Equilibrium]

One thing I gotta say... I have not mastered filling the kayfun from the top. The thing will leak everywhere!! I know the process but still have no luck so I just fill from the bottom and it doesn't leak at all.

The only issue I have with the kayfun is it tends to leak out the air hole on really hot days. I can lay it on it's side and it won't leak but on a 95 degree day occasionally liquid will seep out the air hole. Sux when you get a wet spot in your pocket

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

One thing I gotta say... I have not mastered filling the kayfun from the top. The thing will leak everywhere!! I know the process but still have no luck so I just fill from the bottom and it doesn't leak at all.

The only issue I have with the kayfun is it tends to leak out the air hole on really hot days. I can lay it on it's side and it won't leak but on a 95 degree day occasionally liquid will seep out the air hole. Sux when you get a wet spot in your pocket

I haven't had any issues top filling my 3.1's, but the Lites are more difficult for me for some reason. However, bottom filling for the Lite's is much easier then the side fill port on the 3.1's so it's all good.