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That is not correct information. They do indeed need a search warrant
At least that is the info that I am reading.
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The Department also has the ability to reach out directly to facilities it believes may present a high level of security risk, even for chemicals not included in Appendix A. See 27 CFR 27.210(a)(1)(ii).
They kind of shuck this in where you least expected
They kind of shuck this in where you least expected
Hey Salem, Was dx'ed with MS last December. Seems I've had it for years, but was miss dx'ed. On good days I'm so busy making up for lost time, I have neglected my love of vaping. But I do pop up occasionally, despite my Rheumatologist's attempts to get me to stop.
Glad to be here and see you too
Glad to be here and see you too
Hey Salem, Was dx'ed with MS last December. Seems I've had it for years, but was miss dx'ed. On good days I'm so busy making up for lost time, I have neglected my love of vaping. But I do pop up occasionally, despite my Rheumatologist's attempts to get me to stop.
Glad to be here and see you too
Oh, sluers
I am so sorry to hear that! I have another friend that thought vaping was causing issues and it ended up being RA I do hope that you are able to get relief and also able to stop in more often. I thought that maybe you had quit vaping.
I have read numerous cases where they do search without warrant such as this case. http://www.aclu.org/blog/content/we-dont-need-warrant-were-iceWhoa now. RTS has not been cited for anythig to my knowledge. They would not be threatening with a warrant for lying to a federal agent if they had something else to get them on
If they did not need a warrant, they would not have threatened with one IMO
I have read numerous cases where they do search without warrant such as this case. "We Don't Need a Warrant, We're ICE" | American Civil Liberties UnionWhoa now. RTS has not been cited for anythig to my knowledge. They would not be threatening with a warrant for lying to a federal agent if they had something else to get them on
If they did not need a warrant, they would not have threatened with one IMO
Here is something that may interest some of the readers here as well
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...regulation-proposed-approved.html#post9950587
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...regulation-proposed-approved.html#post9950587
This has gone viral!WOW, never seen 73 people at RTS before
I have watched this video and have tried to get many to watch it. Unbelievable how innocent and truthful statements you could make will backfire on you. Watch this people please.
Any time someone mentions talking to any kind of LEO or FED, I show them this video.
Never talk to the police without a lawyer present.
Guess I'm on a fecal list somewhere now.....
Tiggerts, wouldnt have believed it if I had not watched the whole video and heard the officer speak.. but you sure summed it up in a nutshell!
I love vaping too much to give it up. Not to mention I'm hard headed too, lol. 
Besides that, if I'd taken a longer sabbatical I would have to take an ecig technology refresher course at the community senior center.
Besides that, if I'd taken a longer sabbatical I would have to take an ecig technology refresher course at the community senior center.
You play this Any Way you want.
But If I had been approached by LEO's and questioned, I don't think I would be posting details about it on a Public Forum.
My suggestion is to talk with your Lawyer again.
OK, from reading down this thread, here is what I think may have happened here. I'm just kind of piecing this together, so a may be a million miles off base.
RTS received a buyout "offer" from a big company, and declined. The big company started poking around, and decided to make trouble for RTS, because maybe they figured if you got in some sort of trouble RTS would sell. They had their hot dog lawyers look up regulations regarding the type of processing RTS is doing, and then poked around and found that RTS didn't have some type of obscure certification that they didn't know about, so they called the feds. The feds came out, and didn't like dudes demeanor for whatever reason when he was answering their questions, so they too decided to cause him a problem.
I REALLY hope this all works itself out. You should know that you have a pretty large, and getting larger every day community behind you.
If I were the business owner in this case, my first stop would be the lawyer, and it sounds like it was. My next stop would be elected officials, preferably federal (US Congressman, and US Senators). They should all have offices locally you can go to. They may have the juice to call off the dogs, and also help get the facility into compliance, if in fact it even isn't. I wouldn't be afraid to talk to these people. Your state rep may also be able to help you out. IME, it's hard to find an elected official that is more all about small business than a state representative.
I think it's best to try and nip this thing in the bud before it develops it's own momentum.
RTS received a buyout "offer" from a big company, and declined. The big company started poking around, and decided to make trouble for RTS, because maybe they figured if you got in some sort of trouble RTS would sell. They had their hot dog lawyers look up regulations regarding the type of processing RTS is doing, and then poked around and found that RTS didn't have some type of obscure certification that they didn't know about, so they called the feds. The feds came out, and didn't like dudes demeanor for whatever reason when he was answering their questions, so they too decided to cause him a problem.
I REALLY hope this all works itself out. You should know that you have a pretty large, and getting larger every day community behind you.
If I were the business owner in this case, my first stop would be the lawyer, and it sounds like it was. My next stop would be elected officials, preferably federal (US Congressman, and US Senators). They should all have offices locally you can go to. They may have the juice to call off the dogs, and also help get the facility into compliance, if in fact it even isn't. I wouldn't be afraid to talk to these people. Your state rep may also be able to help you out. IME, it's hard to find an elected official that is more all about small business than a state representative.
I think it's best to try and nip this thing in the bud before it develops it's own momentum.
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