Hey I am looking to start some DIY juice. I plan on ordering from Lorann or really anywhere that people have had great flavors and little to no damage to the atomizer. Any Info would be greatly appreciated.
Rundown of atomizer safe flavors
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Atomizers fail on their own schedule. Some last days, some last months. What's the secret? I don't personally think there is one.
Kate has a list that she compiled, but I think it's just speculation.
Avoid oils and sugars. Colors haven't convinced me.
[edit] Here's that thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/2498-lorann-candy-flavours.html
Kate has a list that she compiled, but I think it's just speculation.
Avoid oils and sugars. Colors haven't convinced me.
[edit] Here's that thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/2498-lorann-candy-flavours.html
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Unfortunately most *strong* vanillas will be oil based. I'm currently using Bavarian Creme from Lorann's for vanilla. I have an order placed with Nature's Flavors for their Vanilla Cream, which lists as their ingredients:
Water, Ethyl Alcohol, Natural Flavor
I'll post what I think of them. I don't think they are as concentrated as Lorann's.
Thank you Sir that was what I was figuring. A standard Vanilla extract is oil based as well, isn't it?
Natural Vanilla extract is virtually always alcohol based. As a matter of fact you can make it very easily by keeping a vanilla bean in high proof vodka for a few weeks/months.
True, that's why it's highly flammable. I mis-spoke (typed?), it's not oil in Vanilla extracts that are the problem...it's that the extracts may still contain some sugar, corn syrup, caramel, colors as well as stabilizers.
That's why I'm looking for a flavoring that doesn't contain those. Well, the color doesn't bother me.
Ok people--our atomizers love flavor, but can be clogged by the use of oil based flavorings. The flavors need to be water soluable. There has been some confusion over LorAnn flavoring as they call all their flavors "oils" when in fact that is just their term of art for all of their flavors. If you are going to buy flavors, the key is that they are water soluable. I have reviewed the list of flavors myself from Lorann ( http://www.lorannoils.com ) and can confim that the following are flavors that I think are in fact compatable with our atomizers and also note as to some that I have had very good results with
and note that the stronger the better as you just use less in your mixture (weak means I could not justify buying again). Again do not even bother with the flavorings in the grocery store as you will not get flavor--they simply are not strong enough:
And as the old saying goes--taste is subjective
Flavors I have bought:
Apple (Medium--Very good)
Bavarian Creme (Strong--Very Good)
Black Walnut (felt lke a squirrel)
Blackberry (Strong--Very good
Brandy (Got lit of this one)
Bubble Gum (Strong--Very Good)
Butter (went looking for some bread to put it on)
Butter Rum (Strong--Very good)
Champagne (Rang in 09 with it--will not in 2010!!)
Cheesecake (strong--very good)
Chocolate Hazelnut (Strong but not too little on the Choc)
Cinnamon Roll (Medium--Very good)
Coconut (strong --Very Good)
Cotton Candy(Strong--Very good)
Cranberry (Strong--very good)
English Toffee (Strong--Very Good)
Guava (did not bother to try--yuck)
Honey (The bees loved it--not me)
Horehound (Strong--taste like a cough drop)
Key Lime (never cared for it so I took a pass)
Lemonade (Strong--very sweet)
Licorice (if you like it--go for it)
Mango (Good to mix with the Strawberry)
Marshmallow (Good)
Mint Chocolate Chip (a toss up)
Pecan (not exactly nuts over this one but Strong)
Pina Colada (strong--very good)
Pineapple (Good to mix with the Pina Colada!!)
Pistachio (passed up on it)
Plum (not any time soon for me)
Pomegranate (Take a pass--weak--strange)
Praline (needed the cream)
Pralines And Cream (Strong--A Winner)
Sassafras (Medium--Not exactly Root beer as you would Expect)
Strawberry Kiwi (Look out Hawaii--nice)
Teaberry (Storng--very good)
Tropical Punch (Strong--puts you in Summer Mode!!)
Vanilla Butternut (the best you can do for a Vanilla)
There is a Vanilla, but I have found that the alcohol content is way too high and tends to take over the flavor so I can not recommend it---Happy Vaping--Sun
and note that the stronger the better as you just use less in your mixture (weak means I could not justify buying again). Again do not even bother with the flavorings in the grocery store as you will not get flavor--they simply are not strong enough:
And as the old saying goes--taste is subjective
Flavors I have bought:
Apple (Medium--Very good)
Bavarian Creme (Strong--Very Good)
Black Walnut (felt lke a squirrel)
Blackberry (Strong--Very good
Brandy (Got lit of this one)
Bubble Gum (Strong--Very Good)
Butter (went looking for some bread to put it on)
Butter Rum (Strong--Very good)
Champagne (Rang in 09 with it--will not in 2010!!)
Cheesecake (strong--very good)
Chocolate Hazelnut (Strong but not too little on the Choc)
Cinnamon Roll (Medium--Very good)
Coconut (strong --Very Good)
Cotton Candy(Strong--Very good)
Cranberry (Strong--very good)
English Toffee (Strong--Very Good)
Guava (did not bother to try--yuck)
Honey (The bees loved it--not me)
Horehound (Strong--taste like a cough drop)
Key Lime (never cared for it so I took a pass)
Lemonade (Strong--very sweet)
Licorice (if you like it--go for it)
Mango (Good to mix with the Strawberry)
Marshmallow (Good)
Mint Chocolate Chip (a toss up)
Pecan (not exactly nuts over this one but Strong)
Pina Colada (strong--very good)
Pineapple (Good to mix with the Pina Colada!!)
Pistachio (passed up on it)
Plum (not any time soon for me)
Pomegranate (Take a pass--weak--strange)
Praline (needed the cream)
Pralines And Cream (Strong--A Winner)
Sassafras (Medium--Not exactly Root beer as you would Expect)
Strawberry Kiwi (Look out Hawaii--nice)
Teaberry (Storng--very good)
Tropical Punch (Strong--puts you in Summer Mode!!)
Vanilla Butternut (the best you can do for a Vanilla)
There is a Vanilla, but I have found that the alcohol content is way too high and tends to take over the flavor so I can not recommend it---Happy Vaping--Sun
Check this out:
https://www.lorannoils.com/p-8319-clear-vanilla-extract-artificial.aspx
I sent this in your blog but you might not have seen it, Sans-color rootbeer flavor:
Root Beer Oil from AmericanSpice.com - AmericanSpice.com
The first I'm not sure would be concentrated enough... it's in a different section of their site.
The second... has caramel coloring. Looks to be roughly the same as Lorann's Root Beer without the Polysorbate 80 and Potassium Sorbate, which I don't think are harmful based on research.
Sorry I posted the wrong one. The one I meant to send was this one:
Root Beer Extract from AmericanSpice.com - AmericanSpice.com
Not sure that would work. That's the same kind of stuff I have for making home-made sodas. You mix it up with sugar and water, add yeast and bottle it. The ingredients appear fine, but I'm almost certain it wouldn't be concentrated enough to have much flavor at all in an e-liquid. Not sure how it would taste either
Kate said Lorann's claimed they did not use any diacetyl in their flavors, but just for luck I would avoid any butter or buttery flavors.
Thanks Sun.....I apreciated the "Strong/Very Good" part..lol
The Wiz!
Would like to see Bickford flavors going through that test also... the one bickford that did get tested, the apple, came out of that test with very good marks.
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