Ruyan Vegas update

[Fumador]

Well, I've had it for a week and I can say that I really like it. Consistent smoke ,taste and smell. I've been smoking it mostly cigar style, because it has to much nicotine for me, and I think that speaks of the good quality of the taste.
It's expensive and I really hope they can lower the price a little so I can keep smoking them. But my other cigs , njoy and a super mini have been expensive too, since after less than 2 months of use they are barely functioning.
That makes me think that in fact all e cigs are disposable.batteries may last a week or a few months,atomizers same thing and cartridges are of course replaceable.
Expensive or not , I really recommend the ruyan vegas.

 

[leaford]

If it's not working after only two months, e-mail Mark and ask for a replacement. It's supposed to last longer than that. You paid too much to just give up on it. I'm sure Mark will be happy to send one out to you.

 

[TropicalBob]

Boy, would I ever like to be able to afford those. I love the looks and your review makes it even more attractive. I would use nothing but this if the price was right. Talk about trend-setting style. This defines it. Get one to Arnold, Ruyan!! Put e-smoking on the map with the most popular governor in the U.S.

 

[NerdyCinderella]

If it's not working after only two months, e-mail Mark and ask for a replacement. It's supposed to last longer than that. You paid too much to just give up on it. I'm sure Mark will be happy to send one out to you.

I know this question has been asked before but I don't remember reading an answer.

How can these vendors afford making all these replacements? Any ideas?

I had one unit that lasted for 3 wks. Its replacement needed a replacement within 3 days.
And of course my infamous Kissbox that proved to be a lemon within 24 hrs. It appears I am far from alone in this experience.

 

[leaford]

Presumably they also have a guarantee from the actual manufacturer against defects in workmanship.

 

[TropicalBob]

Can anyone say fantastic profit margin? We've had educated guesses here on the forum that an e-cig probably costs $5 or less to make. Add all admin, research, marketing, whatever costs and you get a $10 device .. that sells for $100 or more. And how many buyers "bin" failed products like Trog, instead of screaming to high heaven that they want the faulty things replaced NOW. Many people just take it. Live and learn, they say. So the profits here have to be staggering, even taking into account replacing the failed parts for the few who do complain. Don't you think failure replacement is built into the sales price?

 

[NerdyCinderella]

Yeah, I guess I can live with that TB.
Also they know their customers - addicted suckers!?

 

[TropicalBob]

I can too. And I think if these things don't get caught up in controversy, that we'll see a price war set in before too long. We can see from the original patents where these are going. You are going to have cheap junk like we have now and you are going to have costly pieces with true high tech, using misters and pumps and dial-up-your-own nicotine dose.

The upcoming war will see e-cigs at $10 and e-cigs at $350.

And disposables will carve out their own market if mass production takes hold and prices come WAY down.

I want that Ruyan Vegas. Remember the line about what America needs is a good 5-cent cigar? What I need is a good $5 disposable cigar.

 

[NerdyCinderella]

TB

Hey, has anyone brought up the possibility of putting a real microchip in the mechanism to control things?

 

[trog100]

lets be right here bob.. i would not just bin a 100 dollar e cig.. but then again i aint daft enough to pay that much in the first place for a five dollar item.. i pay 10 dollars (that allows em a reasonable mark up) and cuts the b-llsh-t..

trog

ps.. there is one nerdy.. it controls the flashing lights.. he he he

 

[bishybob]

Anyone ever thought of this?
They make crappy e-cigs for a few years. They get people used to paying cheap prices for stuff that constantly breaks.
Then after the word is out and they have a good following of hooked e-smokers... They come out with THE e-smoking device that kills all others. Cartridges that last as long as 100 cigarettes. Atomizers with 5-10 year life expectancy... $550.00 US for the basic model. muahahaha

Anyone actually read over the patent for e-cigarettes? What they're describing in the patent sounds nothing like the e-cigs that are out now. I think it even said something about a LCD screen that would serve as battery indicator.

 

[katink]

Hey, has anyone brought up the possibility of putting a real microchip in the mechanism to control things?

To answer, I think, two threads at once on that part: one difference currently between ruyan e-cigs and other e-cigs, when you take them apart, is exactly this. The ruyans have an extra chip in there, controlling things.

 

[ducktapehero]

I had a Ruyan Vegas too but mine only lasted 5 days. Although when I got mine it looked like it had leaked.

 

[B16JOP]

I am on my second vegas and have 2 more in the drawer. Much better than any ecig including Janty Kissbox. Lasts a week, costs £10.95 plus £1.50 postage. Certainly cheaper than over 200 fags a week.

 

[leaford]

Nice price, where did you get it? Mine were 17.50GBP, inclluding postage, and I was edebating on whether to order again. But at 5GBP cheaper, I would definitely do it.

 

[dnakr]

I really need to start smoking cigars...

 

[B16JOP]

I got them from The Virtual Cigarette Company. at v-cig.com.
I had one directly from Ruyan in China and they are exactly the same.

 

[trog100]

Hey, has anyone brought up the possibility of putting a real microchip in the mechanism to control things?

To answer, I think, two threads at once on that part: one difference currently between ruyan e-cigs and other e-cigs, when you take them apart, is exactly this. The ruyans have an extra chip in there, controlling things.

so what does the chip control katink.. "things" wont do.. my cheap 901 generic has an extra chip controlling "things".. it has nothing to do with basic hot wire technology the device is based on thow..

what are the "things" it controls.. well it counts how may puffs have been taken.. it counts how long each puff is and switches off.. it detects when the device is first put on charge and flashes a few times.. after a few thousand or so puffs it goes in a thirty or so flash cleaning frenzy all on its own.. it also flashes a number of times to tell us the battery is flat..

it also enables the makers to claim high technology.. all this in a cheap generic.. does it make the otherwise crude device work better.. no it dosnt..

so claiming somehow a ruyan works better because it has something the others dont have is false information.. in fact its more low tech than my cheap 901 generic.. its also aimed at the rich end of the market which is why it costs so much.. ruyan upmarket.. janty mid market..

lets not give it "magical qualities" it dosnt deserve please..

trog

ps.. what it does have none of the other cigar type devices have is a decent 2500 mah sized battery.. if its anything that make it work reliably its this simple fact..

 

[katink]

The extra chip in there is the one that sees to it that the whole smoking-possibility gets turned off for quite a while if you smoke too often or too hard within a short time-period.
I didn't say it was super-technology; I didn't say it made Ruyan any better (let alone give any assessment if Ruyan is or isn't worth it's money). In fact this extra chip is in itself allready one reason I wouldn't easily be wanting a ruyan myself; well... unless that second chip happened to be broken (I don't need or want an e-smoke-babysitter); and if the price was down some 90% or so... This is of course just my personal view on it though

 

[trog100]

The ruyans have an extra chip in there, controlling things.

it does pretty much what u say it does.. but your post carried the explicit implication it was something a ruyan had but not others.. plus the less explicit implication it might be a reason why the ruyan works well.. this is not true..

there are two chips in a normal mini battery.. one is the battery protection circuitry.. it makes sure the battery cant be over charged..4.2 volts maximum.. it also makes sure it cant be run fully flat.. 2.7 volts minimum.. the other chip does the flashing lights and other clever stuff.. even a cheap e-cig mini has this "extra" chip..

i doubt the ruyan disposable has this chip.. but on this could be wrong.. most of the older technology cigars dont have it.. the new-ish ruyan disposable might have.. the original poster can perhaps tell us/me if it switches off after a six second draw and flashes lights at him.. or does it just smoke nicely until the battery runs out..

trog