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In my mind, tobacco absolutes are best used in amplifying the tastes and other characteristics of tobacco flavors. Some absolutes work well with some tobacco flavors and not with others - basically a recipe in itself. Once you find a combination of tobacco and a particular absolute that works for you, then you could proceed with an RY4 recipe. I think it's time well-spent, because I like the tobacco flavor to be the most forward flavor in an RY4 recipe, while others prefer the tobacco to be well in the background.
Having said that, there is no reason you couldn't experiment, though. You may find a 2% or so mix of your tobacco absolute is the exact flavor you are looking for. That is the greatest thing about DIY, some experiments turn out fantastically! So first try your tobacco absolute in small 5ml test batches in varying strengths from 1% to 3% or 4% to see if you like the flavor. If you do, then add caramel and vanilla to suit your taste. Who knows?
There is no better thing you can do for mixing recipes than to test each flavor individually. When you know the flavors, you can better tell what they will and will not do in your recipe.
Having said that, there is no reason you couldn't experiment, though. You may find a 2% or so mix of your tobacco absolute is the exact flavor you are looking for. That is the greatest thing about DIY, some experiments turn out fantastically! So first try your tobacco absolute in small 5ml test batches in varying strengths from 1% to 3% or 4% to see if you like the flavor. If you do, then add caramel and vanilla to suit your taste. Who knows?
There is no better thing you can do for mixing recipes than to test each flavor individually. When you know the flavors, you can better tell what they will and will not do in your recipe.
MyFreedomSmokes uses TA in their Four Star General. I like.
A juice containing only TA for the tobacco probably won't be much like RY4s you're familiar with, but it could be good. I found TA to mix nicely with ... Biscuits!
A juice containing only TA for the tobacco probably won't be much like RY4s you're familiar with, but it could be good. I found TA to mix nicely with ... Biscuits!
Well....I have RTS Blend Tobacco Absolute and SBE Brand Tobacco Flavor Commercial and I don't really know how to use them...they are both in 10ml bottles...anybody use these at all?
I use TA as a tobacco enhancement and not a base flavor. But some do use it as a base flavor. My feeling is that TA as a base flavor expecially along with sweeter flavors such as caramels, creams and vanillas usually found in RY4 will clog coils in no time which makes it a particularly bad choice for an RY4. If your going to use it, use it as a tobacco enhancement in small amounts and use a tobacco flavor such as a standard virginia flavoring or the SBE Brand Tobacco Flavor as the base tobacco component. I can't comment on how well the SBE Brand Tobacco Flavor will work because I've never used it.
I would start by mixing separete batches of both and taste each individually to get an idea on taste and strength. Then add small amounts of TA to the tobacco base tasting each step of the way until you come up with something you like. Then taste each additional flavor (Caramel, vanilla, cream) individually to gauge the flavors profile then add each in small amounts to your tobacco mixture until you come up with something you like. Do small 10ml test batches.
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+1 TA can get a little expensive for a main flavor IMO.
I like RY4 with many different flavors because it one of the few flavors, for me, that is a good mixer and primary/single.
Any new flavor I get, I mix as a single flavor mix first, at 0.5-6% depending on expectation of how strong the flavor. Both those 3% or less. I drip, so can try mixing together those flavor mixes right in my RDA on the fly. If something's too strong, drip some unflavored. Can mix straight into a tank too, the essential thing when mixing on the fly is they're already mixed with base, fully vapable ejuices by that point, so can't really do any wrong except get an odd flavor; just like mixing premades together which I've done since day 1. Based on this experience, I go on to try multi-flavor mixes directly.
1 drop flavor per mL of base is about 2.5%. Be especially sure to shake well the flavoring with extracts like TA, which can seperate.
I have Inawera TA Garuda, which is not what you would expect in flavor. Sweet, sour/citrus, grassy, deep complexity also but hard to detect that in the small amounts used, which is limited by the dominant notes.
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