S.S. Vape Pre-Order Hana Modz V3

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Wakefulpanda

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I've been keeping up on this thread even though I've pre-ordered through Vapinart. My thought on the issue is that this kind of stuff happens with pre-orders in EVERY corner of the market. People preorder stuff, the wait is agonizing, speculation arises, wars are waged, threads are erected, and it becomes a big ordeal. I think that in a few weeks to a month this thread will die out and people will start seeing their mods more and more. We will go from posting in this thread to posting in a hana modz love thread.

Look, I know the wait is agonizing. I also know that B&M are selling them in their stores while pre-orders remain to be filled. I also know that the mods are popping up at vape meets. This is nothing new, it is the way of the world. Hana doesn't have billion dollar factory pumping these things out left and right, which is the very reason they are so rare and hard to get.

I know it won't make waiting any easier but I think if we give it time soon enough we will all have smiles on our faces and toys in our hands.

**BTW Vapinart posted on their facebook that they have been told by hana modz that they should receive their next delivery by months end. With this delivery Vapinart hopes to fulfill all, if not most of they pre-orders. I have my fingers crossed for you folks who ordered from SS Vapes that a big shipment of pre-orders will be arriving this week or next.
 
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Well they have told everyone you wait 8-10 weeks that's it what more do you have to know ...why.. will that make it any better. It's cut and dry wait or cancel the order get your money and try someplace else. Just read a response from a atomizer manufacture who told people who placed orders " they have the right to refuse to sell to anyone and they where sending refunds to people who did not want to wait". This was in response to people calling and getting abusive to their staff....

It isn't cut and dry IMO. SSVapes and Hana were selling actual Hanas to walk-in customers and convention attendees while they held the money of pre-order customers, paid in full. That last bit is key. If they had a wait list, a pay-when-we-ship pre-order, or any other setup which did not involve taking our money in advance, this would all be a non-issue, and it would then be cut-and-dry. Or, if they had only paid pre-orders, and Hana was just delayed on general shipments, then it would also be cut-and-dry.

But here we have a situation where SSVapes took our money, and forwarded Hana's cut to Hana. Now you have Hana selling bought-and-paid-for mods at conventions to others, and SSVapes selling yet more bought-and-paid-for Hanas to walk-ins.

Point being they aren't going to be open and honest about this, because the truth is in all likelihood ugly.

Apologies for digging at this scab, btw, but at least I'm being on topic, right? :)
 
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i have to agree with mbliffert. ss is full of it. they aren't applying any effort to this whole ordeal. just feeding us canned garbage. they refuse to even assign us a place in line. stating that it would take away valuable time. it been done here in an organized fashion with what seems to be minimal effort. Although it seems it is probably for nothing considering the march 7th statement.

"It is because of this constant flux that it is difficult to determine a set position, and to attempt would take away valuable time.
We would also like to make a point that the number on your order is your order number in our system. It is not a reflection on your position within our Hana Modz pre-order list. "

This concerns me does that mean that people who go in store and ask to be on the pre-order list get bumped up to priority before anyone who placed an order online?
 

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I respectfully disagree, our pre-order sales agreement in with SS, not Hana.
If Hana is not fulfilling their sales agreement with SS, then its their prerogative to inform us or not. Our frustration and dissatisfaction is by SS alone.
I received my pre-order #294 from Vapinart over a month ago, they handled commincations with their customers, as to status and change orders admirably. And have seen no gripes from their customers.
Hana is a boutique shop, likely where everything is out sourced, they only do assembly. With a limited supply of evolv chips, they can't afford to screw up, and so production focus is quality of assembly over speed. Believe me, I seen the guts of another who didn't care about the security stickers, there no perfect automatic machine solder connections, they are hand done, and not by experts or trained. (Hope to see a recent build, the specimen i looked at was 11_).

Just cancelled order #100001501 for a mini in gunmetal, ordered on 3/19, canceled on 3/24
 
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This concerns me does that mean that people who go in store and ask to be on the pre-order list get bumped up to priority before anyone who placed an order online?


No It means that when hana ships a shipment of v3's to ssvape. ssvape puts them in the display case and walkins come in see them and say"I want that hana mods v3" and ssvape sells them to that person instead of shipping them out to customers who pre ordered
 

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Thats why I don't like preorders and will never do it Once the seller has your money You move to the bottom of the priority list :(
it's sad but true I really want a full size Hana V3 but wont buy one till some one stocks them

No It means that when hana ships a shipment of v3's to ssvape. ssvape puts them in the display case and walkins come in see them and say"I want that hana mods v3" and ssvape sells them to that person instead of shipping them out to customers who pre ordered
 

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What am I going to do with this clear wrap?? Hana clear wrap.jpg
 

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Here is some info about LiPos. I almost had one burn down my house even while in a safe charge bag and was not over drain

http://www.rchelisite.com/lipo_battery_charging_and_safety_guide.php

Looks like the LiPos are actually one of the recommended batteries for use with Evolv's DNA30 boards.
http://www.evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna30.pdf

Quoting the PDF concerning batteries and chargers...

"Battery:
A single cell rechargeable lithium chemistry battery is recommended. Either a lithium ion or a lithium polymer type can be used. Any battery used should be rated for a MINIMUM of 12 amps continuous discharge current. High C rated lithium polymer or IMR cylindrical cells are strongly preferred. Make sure that all contacts and connections are capable of handling at least 12 amps.
Charger:
Evolv offers an accessory DNA Charger which is USB powered and provides a 500 milliamp charge current. The use on an onboard charger is optional – a removable battery will also work."

After reading this, I'm more comfortable about the Mini having LiPos.
 

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Looks like the LiPos are actually one of the recommended batteries for use with Evolv's DNA30 boards.
http://www.evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna30.pdf

Quoting the PDF concerning batteries and chargers...

"Battery:
A single cell rechargeable lithium chemistry battery is recommended. Either a lithium ion or a lithium polymer type can be used. Any battery used should be rated for a MINIMUM of 12 amps continuous discharge current. High C rated lithium polymer or IMR cylindrical cells are strongly preferred. Make sure that all contacts and connections are capable of handling at least 12 amps.
Charger:
Evolv offers an accessory DNA Charger which is USB powered and provides a 500 milliamp charge current. The use on an onboard charger is optional – a removable battery will also work."

After reading this, I'm more comfortable about the Mini having LiPos.

LiPo's are also recommended for just about everything in the RC world, that doesn't mean they wont go supernova on you. Not trying to rain on your enthusiasm and I commend that you are looking into it. Problem with LiPo's is that they usually are fine during use its during the charging when things usually go bad. RC hobbyists often spend lots of money buying high end chargers that help reduce (not eliminate) the dangers of recharging LiPo's, with a Hana mod you are relying on a $50 chinese made chip (and arguably most of the chip is most likely designed to regulate your vape with charging as an afterthought) and a $2 chinese made USB charging port to charge that LiPo. Go to you tube, type in LiPo fire and watch a couple of vids. Yes alot of those are big RC LiPo's but I have seen the damage a 500mah LiPo (for a micro helicopter) about the size of a thumbnail can do and it scared me enough that I will only charge LiPo's in a special bag, inside a steel ammo can, in the middle of a concrete garage floor, with no flammables within 10 feet. I've been working on military aircraft in electronics for 23 years and there's not many things that deal with power that scare me but I will never be caught charging a LiPo in my home or using one within inches of my face. Also I know that some of the video's show people hitting LiPo's with rakes, hammers, and various other objects and I know nobody is considering doing this with their Hana mods. The intent behind doing this is to show what happens when an overcharged LiPo vents (first they swell, and swell, and then boom of fwooosh depending on containment). Unfortunately not many people put a camera on their LiPo's when charging to catch the fires but there are some aftermath videos of LiPo fires from batteries that were just left charging unattended. Not trying to stoke the fires of fear, just hope everybody does their research and mostly that everybody stays safe.
 
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No It means that when hana ships a shipment of v3's to ssvape. ssvape puts them in the display case and walkins come in see them and say"I want that hana mods v3" and ssvape sells them to that person instead of shipping them out to customers who pre ordered

Do you really know this or are you just fanning the flames? Believe me we don't need that not at all, but I would like to see if someone who lives near a shop just walk in and see what's up.
 

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Do you really know this or are you just fanning the flames? Believe me we don't need that not at all, but I would like to see if someone who lives near a shop just walk in and see what's up.

Ive read every single post in this thread. there is at least one person that called ssvape and was told they have them in store and was sold and shipped to him on feb 19th. others have stated they are on a preorder through ssvape and they had a friend walk into the store and the friend was sold a hana v3.
 
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I thought the DNA chips were made in America?
Yes, but I guess his point is the USB charger board has components made from china on it, if not completely assembled in china altogether.
The DNA surely have china parts in it as well. Just designed in us and possible put together in the states. No way around that. Hopefully besides the engineering a hole lot to r&d and testing went into it.

I believe u can charge that lipo even faster if the USB was 1a rated. But feel a lot better they went with 500ma to slow things down.

We all drop our devices at one time or another. With a lipo it would make sense to open it up and make sure there is no swelling and monitor it (while case is open) during a charge after having dropped it.
 
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