Satburn 22 atomizer - Sat22

[snow blind]

I've seen a few of you high-end mod collectors with these and i've always been curious about them. Information and impressions are hard to come by. They're elusive and beautiful.

What those who own or have tried the Sat22 think of it? I only hear positives but are there any negatives? What's the draw like... the flavor... anyone wick with cotton? etc. Any information or impressions greatly appreciated.

 

[WattWick]

I've seen a few of you high-end mod collectors with these and i've always been curious about them. Information and impressions are hard to come by. They're elusive and beautiful.

What those who own or have tried the Sat22 think of it? I only hear positives but are there any negatives? What's the draw like... the flavor... anyone wick with cotton? etc. Any information or impressions greatly appreciated.

You just killed a kitten.

Seriously tho... check out the gennie section over at vapefaction. It's all the rage there.

 

[snow blind]

You just killed a kitten.

Seriously tho... check out the gennie section over at vapefaction. It's all the rage there.

Lol why though!? I've seen loads of genny fanatics love Japanese organic cotton in theirs... the all parallel strands of cotton wick like crazy. vaping SS mesh/rope freaks me the f' out with all the bad .... coming off it haha.

But on topic... thanks for the heads up to check out VF. I'm really starting to lean to this genny as a in the car / at the bar dripper replacement.

 

[WattWick]

They're not the fanatics. They're the ones who gave up

(Not to be taken too seriously)

Not sure what bad .... you're talking about. If it's wicking right, you only evaporate the liquids. The wick don't get hot enough to form any nasty chromiums or such. If it did, your cotton would burn.

 

[snow blind]

Not sure what bad .... you're talking about. If it's wicking right, you only evaporate the liquids. The wick don't get hot enough to form any nasty chromiums or such. If it did, your cotton would burn.

You're most likely right on that but cotton works just as well (from all i've head and been reading) it just needs to be replaced much more often... and that, i'm cool with. Plus i wont have to buy and torch and fuss with ss rope and mesh then lol.

 

[snow blind]

Ok big question for owners. How airy is the draw on the Sat22? Is one able to do easy lung-inhales... or will the require drilling? I'm reading conflicting reports on this.

 

[snow blind]

Well looks like i'll have to make another purchase to check out a much talked about, impossible to obtain, high end genny....

There is now an Infinite Sat22 clone available (or will be in a few days)... with Infinite's quality work, this might be a decent little purchase.

Satburn Sat22 RBA Clone by Infinite (Pre-Order) | ILLVAPES

 

[desrever]

Ok big question for owners. How airy is the draw on the Sat22? Is one able to do easy lung-inhales... or will the require drilling? I'm reading conflicting reports on this.

Just got mine. The draw is very tight. Can't imagine you can lung inhale without turning blue. But many high end genny's are like that. The nahualon is even tighter. The 2 holes are 0.8mm so if you have any drippers with 1.0mm holes that would give you a preview. Not sure how drilling it out would turn out. More airflow may kill some of the flavor. I currently have a 0.67 ohm build with ss mesh and the flavor is very good. I've tried 2 liquids through it so far and one of them may be better (flavor) than in my drippers but I'm still playing with it. I would say it's close to an analog. You're definitely puffing and mouth hitting this atty. For reference my "flavor" rda is the veritas and I use it with the airhole very closed off (a slit almost) and in comparison to the sat22 it feels loose!

 

[snow blind]

How's the build quality? Or do you have the genuine?

 

[milescadre]

a properly setup SS MEsh setup will give you a better taste and a cleaner vape imo.

Problem is getting that proper setup. it takes a good chunk of tinkering and working. But once set, it lasts 4-6 months before rewicking.

 

[desrever]

How's the build quality? Or do you have the genuine?

I have the infinite clone. The build quality is good as expected from infinite. I wish I had the genuine but it's hard to track one down, especially if you're not on an exclusive forum or fb group. The only con I could say so far is how hot the topcap gets due to the tiny chamber. But that's due to the design itself. Be wary of scorched lips when chain vaping

 

[desrever]

a properly setup SS MEsh setup will give you a better taste and a cleaner vape imo.

Problem is getting that proper setup. it takes a good chunk of tinkering and working. But once set, it lasts 4-6 months before rewicking.

Agreed. I consider myself fairly adept with my hands but setting up mesh for the first time was a pain. Watched and read whatever I could find before attempting but still got hotspots, wicking issues, etc.. I think it's due to the fact that the optimal setup can vary between genny's. The taste is crisper and there's notes you possibly will get from mesh that you don't from something like cotton/rayon/etc. However you do get a denser vapor from cotton. I'm guessing since it holds so much more liquid. I've setup mesh in my drippers but still prefer cotton in them. These genny's seem ideal with mesh though.

 

[snow blind]

I have the infinite clone. The build quality is good as expected from infinite. I wish I had the genuine but it's hard to track one down, especially if you're not on an exclusive forum or fb group. The only con I could say so far is how hot the topcap gets due to the tiny chamber. But that's due to the design itself. Be wary of scorched lips when chain vaping

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Ooh I know... You have to be in the in crowd to score a genuine Sat22 it seems lol. I'm big on cotton even in gennys just because I'm wary of vaping on SS rope or mesh. Have you set up the Sat on cotton?

I need anew Genny but can't decide on the Sat or Nahualon clone. Which do you find better?

 

[desrever]

Ooh I know... You have to be in the in crowd to score a genuine Sat22 it seems lol. I'm big on cotton even in gennys just because I'm wary of vaping on SS rope or mesh. Have you set up the Sat on cotton?

I need anew Genny but can't decide on the Sat or Nahualon clone. Which do you find better?

I got a sample of rayon from another member today so I threw it in the Sat first just to see how it wicked. It was okay but it didn't keep up fast enough. It could've been the fact that I've never used rayon before though . I definitely like the Sat more than the Nahualon. I still haven't mastered the lon. The draw is really tight and I seem to get some flooding on occasion from suction. Vapor production was on the wimpy side with so little airflow and I haven't been satisfied with it yet. I know some people that rave about it so maybe I'm missing something. I haven't touched a genny before the lon for a year and was a bit discouraged from it. I had already ordered the sat on preorder and when it came I didn't expect much. To be honest I'm surprised it turned out so well and I'm getting used to the draw. Now that I think of it, the draw reminds me of a cartomizer. Haven't used one of those in a long time....

 

[hippesthippo]

Snowblind: Get the Sat clone. The Nahualan has a verrry small airhole. And because of the way the airholes are situated, will be impossible to drill out.

 

[snow blind]

I got a sample of rayon from another member today so I threw it in the Sat first just to see how it wicked. It was okay but it didn't keep up fast enough. It could've been the fact that I've never used rayon before though . I definitely like the Sat more than the Nahualon. I still haven't mastered the lon. The draw is really tight and I seem to get some flooding on occasion from suction. Vapor production was on the wimpy side with so little airflow and I haven't been satisfied with it yet. I know some people that rave about it so maybe I'm missing something. I haven't touched a genny before the lon for a year and was a bit discouraged from it. I had already ordered the sat on preorder and when it came I didn't expect much. To be honest I'm surprised it turned out so well and I'm getting used to the draw. Now that I think of it, the draw reminds me of a cartomizer. Haven't used one of those in a long time....

Now are we talking tighter than a Kayfun tight draw stock? Well, they're cheap enough clones so i guess i can just experiment when i get it with the good old drill press

Forgot to ask... how's the fit with other drip tips? I know it's likely just like the original and only short based tips fit but what have you found to work with it? I usually like to use delrin or pyrex tips... metal tips give me off flavor personally and scare my teeth lol.

Snowblind: Get the Sat clone. The Nahualan has a verrry small airhole. And because of the way the airholes are situated, will be impossible to drill out.

Yeah the outer airhole in the Nahualan would be easy to drill... that inner one would need some sort of weird dremel work. You're right. Probably impossible.

Now... what SS mod to pick up to pair it with lol.

 

[desrever]

Now are we talking tighter than a Kayfun tight draw stock? Well, they're cheap enough clones so i guess i can just experiment when i get it with the good old drill press

Forgot to ask... how's the fit with other drip tips? I know it's likely just like the original and only short based tips fit but what have you found to work with it? I usually like to use delrin or pyrex tips... metal tips give me off flavor personally and scare my teeth lol.




Yeah the outer airhole in the Nahualan would be easy to drill... that inner one would need some sort of weird dremel work. You're right. Probably impossible.

Now... what SS mod to pick up to pair it with lol.

Yes, noticeably tighter than a Kayfun. The fact that you mentioned lung hit originally makes me think you'll probably think it's like sucking through a coffee stirrer lol... It's too tight for me to take long draws, I have to puff/prime/puff/prime then inhale. Here's a video (he does great build videos also) that shows a good example of how you'd vape the sat22: Sat22 + mcr =Great!! - YouTube

As for drip tips, some of mine fit and some are a bit too long. The drip tip base is 5mm, anything longer will create a gap. Luckily all my favorite ones fit, although I prefer the stock one because the look and also the bore seems to match the airflow perfectly. The vape just feels off with wider bores.

Yeah, can't imagine how you'd drill out the inner hole on the Nahualon.


Update: had some time to play with it today so when I swapped liquids I tried using rayon again and got it working pretty well. I was simply using too much originally. A denser vape and flavor is close to mesh. I'm getting a better flavor from my fruit liquid which is supposed to excel in mesh. One day I'll have to find someone that has mastered mesh and try their builds. I've gotten the builds working properly but feel like maybe there's a secret I'm missing.

 

[hippesthippo]

I drilled out my Sat22 Clone from infinite with a 1/16bit. So, 2x stacked 1/16th airholes. That's as big as you can get on their before it looks silly because of the indent. It's enough to just barely lung hit, Reallly intense flavor tho.

 

[snow blind]

Yes, noticeably tighter than a Kayfun. The fact that you mentioned lung hit originally makes me think you'll probably think it's like sucking through a coffee stirrer lol... It's too tight for me to take long draws, I have to puff/prime/puff/prime then inhale. Here's a video (he does great build videos also) that shows a good example of how you'd vape the sat22: Sat22 + mcr =Great!! - YouTube

As for drip tips, some of mine fit and some are a bit too long. The drip tip base is 5mm, anything longer will create a gap. Luckily all my favorite ones fit, although I prefer the stock one because the look and also the bore seems to match the airflow perfectly. The vape just feels off with wider bores.

Yeah, can't imagine how you'd drill out the inner hole on the Nahualon.


Update: had some time to play with it today so when I swapped liquids I tried using rayon again and got it working pretty well. I was simply using too much originally. A denser vape and flavor is close to mesh. I'm getting a better flavor from my fruit liquid which is supposed to excel in mesh. One day I'll have to find someone that has mastered mesh and try their builds. I've gotten the builds working properly but feel like maybe there's a secret I'm missing.

Nice... That's what I thought. I dig a tight draw when the device is built properly... Get such good, dense flavor! I def need a crash course in mesh building. I can never get it just right.

I drilled out my Sat22 Clone from infinite with a 1/16bit. So, 2x stacked 1/16th airholes. That's as big as you can get on their before it looks silly because of the indent. It's enough to just barely lung hit, Reallly intense flavor tho.

. Oh that's good news! I have one incoming and it's good to know that's an option if I really end up needing it! How's yours set up? Any pics of the drilled holes and build?

 

[desrever]

I drilled out my Sat22 Clone from infinite with a 1/16bit. So, 2x stacked 1/16th airholes. That's as big as you can get on their before it looks silly because of the indent. It's enough to just barely lung hit, Reallly intense flavor tho.

Do you feel like the flavor is less concentrated with 1/16" holes? I was thinking 1mm may be a perfect bump. Just enough for a little more air/vapor but not too much to make it airy.

Snow blind, another advantage of having a rayon wick I realized today is it doesn't retain heat like mesh and alter my juice over time. One of my juices seems to turn dark (guessing the sugar) by half the tank with mesh. That's when the taste starts to feel off & muted. Ran a whole tank so far with the rayon and no change.