Hello, Looking for a certain kind of atomizer and/or wick...

Status
Not open for further replies.

NickelName

Full Member
Mar 2, 2013
11
22
Columbus
I've been milking this forum for information for many months, just never really had a reason to join. I finally joined because I recently purchased an ovale emini/joyetech eroll and was interested in finding alternative wicks for the atomizer (anything except silica). Would go into more information than that but I don't really want to start a fight like I have seen in many threads.

What I'm looking for: An emini/eroll compatible atomizer (ie: Ego-C type A I think) with SS mesh, ceramic etc. etc. wick. If no options are available I can try to change the wick myself, but I would prefer to just be able to purchase ready to go atomizers. If anyone has any information to help me (preferably store links) that would be great.
 

Jimmyhat

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 25, 2012
313
273
West Chester, Pa
I think for your setup the best thing you could do is just stick with how it's set up with the silica wick. If this really bothers you that much I think your only real option would be to get a rebuildable and to ss or ceramic. I say this is yoru only real option is because I have yet to hear about a rebuild on that atty with something like ss or ceramic going well or happening at all. I know some people say silica wicks can be bad for you but a lot of poeple use them without any issues.
 

UncleChuck

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 20, 2011
1,581
1,812
37
Portland
I don't believe there are any non-silica attys for the eRoll on the market, so you'll have to do the conversion yourself. I don't own an eRoll, but from looking at the design of the atty it appears as if you could fairly easily convert it to a SS mesh wick. The biggest issue I could see is leaking, as the SS mesh might wick too well and drain the tank. If putting it in a pocket or something placing it mouthpiece down would stop any possible leakage.
 

Jimmyhat

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 25, 2012
313
273
West Chester, Pa
your new so it's not suprising that some things might not make sense or you might not understand certain things, even the "experts" are still learing stuff everyday. The surface tension will not keep liquid in the tank, all systems except for maybe cartomizers without a tank can leak depending on how they are stored and many other factors like how they are maintained. When a wick wicks too well it more or less floods the coil with juice. This will cause a hit with either no vapor and a mouth full of liquid or vapor that is more or less droplets of juice which can cause throat irritation and what not. The only thing to protect against leaking is picking a system like the one you have that for the most part doesnt leak. System that are known for leaking on a pretty regular basis if not stored correctly are for the most part genesis atomizers. To keep other systems that usually don't leak from leaking, you just need to make sure that all orings (if they have any) are in good shape and make sure any other area that is used for sealing is kept clean and well maintained. If I were you I would just keep your e-roll stock if you want to retain the user-friendliness that it provides.
 

UncleChuck

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 20, 2011
1,581
1,812
37
Portland
I am new to tank systems so I apologize for any potential ignorance. My understanding was that surface tension was supposed to keep the liquid in the tank. Could you clarify what you mean by "wick too well". Additionally are there any other measures that could be taken to prevent potential leakage?

Jimmy basically covered it, but to expand a bit:

If you take a genesis style tank, which uses a vertical SS mesh wick, and tip it upside down juice will usually flood out through the wick. Silica seems to do a better job at "stopping" the juice than SS mesh does. With the eRoll, the tank cartridge sits above the atomizer, and a little spike goes into the tank, and wicks juice down to the coil.

The silica wick which helps bring juice from the tank to the coil also acts as a "plug" to stop juice from just continually pouring from the tank onto the coil. Just like how juice will leak through a SS wick on a genesis style tank, I'd imagine the same thing might happen with the eRoll if you throw a SS wick in there.

I've heard a few reports that even in the stock setup the tank will leak if you leave it in your pocket with the mouthpiece end facing up, because with the mouthpiece end facing up, the hole in the tank is facing down, and the silica wick doesn't completely stop the juice from leaking out, or else it wouldn't be able to feed juice to the coil obviously. I'm just theorizing that this phenomenon will potentially get worse with SS in place of silica.

If you roll your SS wick super tight, and stuff it in the eRoll very snug you should cut down on any potential leaking, but the side effect of this is that you might cut down on the amount of juice being fed to the coil, which could lead to dry hits. Juice feeding is always a balancing act on pretty much all devices.

A carto-tank kind of uses surface tension to hold the juice at bay. The holes in the carto are small enough, and the juice thick enough, that there is already a little resistance for the juice to flow into the carto. Then on the inside of the carto you have filler material, which while still porous to allow juice to feed, is tight enough to stop the juice flooding into the carto. The key to juice feeding in a carto-tank is that when you take a puff on the tank, it creates negative pressure inside the carto, which then quite literally sucks in juice from the tank.

It's really a combination or air pressure, juice viscosity, and capillary action that controls all juice feeding and retention.

There's also the possibility of something shorting out in there too. It's a very small area that you'd be putting the SS mesh into, and unless you did a perfect job oxidizing the mesh I could see it having many areas that it could possibly short out against. I'm not sure what type of protection the eRoll has to deal with that sort of thing, but I'm assuming (hoping) there is some sort of over-current protection.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread