Scary experience with non-v4l juice
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buyer beware indeed! it may have been the nicotine content, nic od's cause heart palpations
Thanks, angjen, that's what I think caused it too. Quality control seems lacking, to say the least. That's what I get for being unfaithful to Steve!
Yes, you have to be careful, that's for sure. I've never had a problem with any of Steve's cartomizers. Haven't used any of the juices yet, since I'm just throwing my empties in a coffee can, but everyone here says they're good.
Don't feel too bad -- many of us shopped "elsewhere" when our flavor was out of stock and so many of Steve's shipments were held up in Customs. I ordered some cartos from another guy, and although the taste was good, they just didn't last half as long as Steve's do, so needless to say, I won't be ordering anywhere else. I will be loyal to Steve. Plus he always treats us all very special with all the freebies and the best customer service around.
Don't feel too bad -- many of us shopped "elsewhere" when our flavor was out of stock and so many of Steve's shipments were held up in Customs. I ordered some cartos from another guy, and although the taste was good, they just didn't last half as long as Steve's do, so needless to say, I won't be ordering anywhere else. I will be loyal to Steve. Plus he always treats us all very special with all the freebies and the best customer service around.
Would be nice to know where the problem lies. So no one else goes through the same problem.
I purchase from someone who hand mixes and have not had any problems so far. 12 bottles and counting.
I purchase from someone who hand mixes and have not had any problems so far. 12 bottles and counting.
I've purchased from a custom blender who makes his own tobacco flavor from pipe tobacco, and it's really fine (for this former pipe smoker, anyway). There are some decent juices out there, in flavors Steve doesn't carry, but I have no doubt there are some crappy ones as well.
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Please, I am sure it's not intentional, but be careful with what you are claiming ok with your OP
yes everyone should be cautious with ANY liquid and maybe even MORE when buying a 'self-made' juice,,, but some self-makers are high quality(caution still there)
and Though Steve has good juice I just don't want a thread that would cause people unnecessary fear to go "outside the local"
Thank you
and YES I have enjoyed V4L products
Geoduck, I was simply stating my own experience. I ordered 3 bottles of differently flavored juice from this seller, and each gave me problems after only 1 puff. If anyone wants to pm me, I will give you the name of the seller. Is that fair?
PM me please, because I bet I know who it is as I had the same experience.
Now don't get me wrong, i've gotten a slipshod bottle of juice once or twice, but I've yet to have one with *too much* nic in it LOL!.. still hoping though!
In reality i vape 24 nonstop and occasionally fall back on 36 when i need to make a tactical retreat from committing neighbor-cide.
Most of my experiences with failed juices were bottles that tasted funky and were probably ancient, or bottles that were labled fairly high (example 24mg) and didn't cut the mustard or lick the jar... Probably was 24 before they added flavor or something who knows.
so yeah, sometimes you get juice made by a madman..but the usual complaint is too little nic.
I wish i could complain about too much haha!
6 people asked me via pm who the seller is of the dangerous juice I got. One person asked me if it was___________, a seller they had gotten too strong juice from, and it was the very same seller! This concerns me. Should I go to the seller's forum here and tell others? I already emailed the seller btw.
Geoduck, I think you're minimizing the effect that a nicotine overdose can have. Some of us have determined our dose, and suffer when it is increased substantially. I don't think it's something most of us look forward to.
NO I am not minimizing the effect that nicotine overdose can have... and I am not sure where you are getting that from>
IF you look at the quoted post I am merely preventing a slippery slope.... yes one should be causous of buying DISE(do it by someone else)juice but to lump it all up and imply that one should not explore outside YOUR box is what one could think
Yes you should post out in the Big forum and ask if others had the same problem with that supplier to see if it was a mistake or a habit/// second one could usually tell if a juice is too high after first or second hit and if that is the case you could either ditch it or cut it with lower.... I am almost sure you won't OD on one hit since for the most part its mg pr ml and I don't think anyone takes a ml size hit(i could be wrong)
for the most part all suppliers that sell china wholesale juice are equal when it comes to risk just DISE juice is higher if you don't know the guy hehe
But I am sorry for jumping in and will exit this thread and keep an eye out in the main
IF you look at the quoted post I am merely preventing a slippery slope.... yes one should be causous of buying DISE(do it by someone else)juice but to lump it all up and imply that one should not explore outside YOUR box is what one could think
Yes you should post out in the Big forum and ask if others had the same problem with that supplier to see if it was a mistake or a habit/// second one could usually tell if a juice is too high after first or second hit and if that is the case you could either ditch it or cut it with lower.... I am almost sure you won't OD on one hit since for the most part its mg pr ml and I don't think anyone takes a ml size hit(i could be wrong)
for the most part all suppliers that sell china wholesale juice are equal when it comes to risk just DISE juice is higher if you don't know the guy hehe
But I am sorry for jumping in and will exit this thread and keep an eye out in the main
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If you had a reaction after "only one puff", then it was most likely not a nicotine reaction. Perhaps an allergic reaction to some other component in the liquid, but probably not excess nicotine.
You would also want to be careful in saying that the nicotine content on an e-liquid does not match what was ordered and listed on the bottle... unless you were prepared to say exactly what the tested nicotine content actually is/was.
Sorry ONE more thing- hehe
SBEE--- I missed that one...... I want to add that to my point as well
Thanks
ok NOW i am out
I agree with what your saying. I too have gotten a sample set of different flavors and one of the flavors sent my heart racing, which is weird because its a flavor/strength I use all the time from another vendor.
I bought the sample to try before placing a larger order (this site is cheaper). It does taste different and is slightly lighter in color as well. My first thought was nic strength but it could easily be different components.
Tough call. I would not post about nic strengths unless you have had it tested and can prove it is not the strength on the bottle. It would not be fair to a seller if they haven't done anything wrong. The seller I bought from has been great to deal with. I just won't be getting this particular flavor from him.
Always get samples, and test to see if they agree with you....
Good Luck
Scottbee, the reaction was a racing heart, not a cough, a wheeze, a closing of the throat, etc. Is that not a sympton of nicotine overdose?
I will take your advice to heart, however, and not advertise the supplier's name. I do find it interesting that another forum user, also an experienced vaper, had the same reaction to the same seller's product.
I will take your advice to heart, however, and not advertise the supplier's name. I do find it interesting that another forum user, also an experienced vaper, had the same reaction to the same seller's product.
I have OD on nic in the past and racing heart can be a symptom but it was just one of several and the strongest symptom for me was nausea by far.
The racing heart I felt with this flavor was similar to a lot of caffeine. I didn't get any other "symptom" other than feeling like I was on speed.
While I have every confidence in our liquid supplier and their testing and certification process, nonetheless one of the things on my agenda when I get to China is assembling the nicotine content testing kit that the geniuses over in the DIY forum cooked up. The simplified method is within my capabilities, and although it has a wide error bar, +/- 10% IIRC, that will at least help confirm that the liquid is within the right range.
I know who your supplier is, and I too have every confidence in them LOL, there are some suppliers who rebottle it however, and you can tell when they water it down. V4Ls has never looked rebottled nor has it tasted watered down, which probably explains why I keep buying it LOL.
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