Searching for my unicorns

[Blitzdonlife]

I am on a quest.

I'm looking for my unicorns.

Those mystical vape recipes that satisfy on levels that make the vaping experience truly magical.

The road has been long, and my missteps abound, but my compass points north and I shall keep my course.

I found one, but three remain. The first took 9 years of experimenting, but I found it. I need help finding the next three. With regulations looming I don't have an indefinite time.

What I'm looking for are thus;

A cherry-limeade that tastes like the sonic one, without bitterness and real cherry flavor/acidity

A cherry-cola with an authentic cherry and authentic non-gummy cola

A Whiskey sour with a really good sour mix

Any help is appreciated

 

[Letitia]

I don't care for cherry but maybe you can get some ideas from watching this. Have you looked on elr recipes or all the flavors for recipes?

 

[bombastinator]

I personally doubt this will go well.

I notice two of those are “real cherry” cherry is a notoriously difficult flavor even for ingested flavors. I gave up on cherry flavored vapes entirely.

The sour might also be hard. Sour means acid. So what you’re saying is “I want to breathe acid but not be damaged by it”

 

[Blitzdonlife]

I don't care for cherry but maybe you can get some ideas from watching this. Have you looked on elr recipes or all the flavors for recipes?

I tried a bunch of cherries, but they all tasted like cough syrup. Thank you for the link, watching now.

 

[Letitia]

I tried a bunch of cherries, but they all tasted like cough syrup. Thank you for the link, watching now.

Ask on this thread...
Random DIY mixing and More

 

[Blitzdonlife]

I personally doubt this will go well.

I notice two of those are “real cherry” cherry is a notoriously difficult flavor even for ingested flavors. I gave up on cherry flavored vapes entirely.

The sour might also be hard. Sour means acid. So what you’re saying is “I want to breathe acid but not be damaged by it”

Lol, not straight acid. Sour mix, as in the lemon/citrus with egg powder base and sweetener that is used in a whiskey sour, or amaretto sour for example.

 

[bombastinator]

Lol, not straight acid. Sour mix, as in the lemon/citrus with egg powder base and sweetener that is used in a whiskey sour, or amaretto sour for example.

Oh, I know. Lemon/citrus is citric acid. Your stomach is built to handle acids, and your tongue is built to taste them. Lungs not so much.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Oh, I know. Lemon/citrus is citric acid. Your stomach is built to handle acids, and your tongue is built to taste them. Lungs not so much.

I have to wonder with all the bad cherry experiences/reviews out there, mine included; is cherry really cherry by itself? Citric acid it s a good point, maybe key lime and lemonade in combo with it? One thing I know for sure is that TFA maraschino cherry does not taste like a candied cherry to me. At all. Even close. Vomit, etc.

 

[B2L]

I love cherry yet everything I tried tasted like cough syrup to me as well until I got a recommendation from @Baditude .

I mainly DIY and haven’t ordered any in quite awhile and can’t for the life of me remember what it was called or who made it but it was really good. Maybe Bad will stop by and refresh my memory.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

I love cherry yet everything I tried tasted like cough syrup to me as well until I got a recommendation from @Baditude .

I mainly DIY and haven’t ordered any in quite awhile and can’t for the life of me remember what it was called or who made it but it was really good. Maybe Bad will stop by and refresh my memory.

I hope @Baditude stops by, that sounds good.

 

[B2L]

I hope @Baditude stops by, that sounds good.

Found it

One-Stop Vape Shop Online \| The Best Breakthrough In Vaping

It’s not DIY but it’s good, just realized what forum I was in

 

[Blitzdonlife]

There has to be a solution, I've had premixed juices with an awesome cherry flavor. Just no diy sucesses to date.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Found it

One-Stop Vape Shop Online \| The Best Breakthrough In Vaping

Thank you, I am not looking for premade though. And code red is not the flavor I am looking for anyway, more juicy, less cough syrup.

 

[B2L]

Thank you, I am not looking for premade though. And code red is not the flavor I am looking for anyway, more juicy, less cough syrup.

Yeah, I just realized what forum I was in, sorry

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Yeah, I just realized what forum I was in, sorry

Thank you for your input anyway. IDK where inpiration may come from.

 

[bombastinator]

I have to wonder with all the bad cherry experiences/reviews out there, mine included; is cherry really cherry by itself? Citric acid it s a good point, maybe key lime and lemonade in combo with it? One thing I know for sure is that TFA maraschino cherry does not taste like a candied cherry to me. At all. Even close. Vomit, etc.

Part of the problem is the way flavorings work. If you put all the chemicals of a cherry in the same ratios as what is in a cherry you basically have a cherry. Plus those chemicals need to be both safe and stable. Flavorings use only a few of those chemicals. Different tongues identify different chemicals to define a flavor. It’s different for everyone. This means a given flavoring will taste like that thing to a few people but not everyone.

Cherry is particularly bad this way. Also there are so very many cherry flavored things, many of which are medicine. If the first time you had that particular flavoring it was in medicine you’re going to identify that flavor as medicine.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Part of the problem is the way flavorings work. If you put all the chemicals of a cherry in the same ratios as what is in a cherry you basically have a cherry. Plus those chemicals need to be both safe and stable. Flavorings use only a few word those chemicals. Different tongues identify different chemicals to define a flavor. It’s different for everyone. This means a given flavoring will taste like that thing to a few people but not everyone.

Cherry is particularly bad this way. Also there are so very many cherry flavored things, many of which are medicine. If the first time you had that particular flavoring it was in medicine you’re going to identify that flavor as medicine.

With all of the bad cherry flavor reviews (pretty much all of them), and considering that so many comments have been made on displeasure with this flavor, I would think flavor manufacturers would have figured out which chemicals to use. If not for accuracy, then for sales. Are the aromatics in a natural cherry so volatile and unique that they are impossible to reproduce or stabilize? Is there no alternative way to stimulate olfactory receptors and trick the majority of people into thinking we taste cherry even if it is not in fact cherry.

I feel like it is like this; how many licks does it take to get to the center if a... you get the point.

 

[Baditude]

I love cherry yet everything I tried tasted like cough syrup to me as well until I got a recommendation from @Baditude .

I mainly DIY and haven’t ordered any in quite awhile and can’t for the life of me remember what it was called or who made it but it was really good. Maybe Bad will stop by and refresh my memory.

It was a commercial premix by I think Ohm Vapes, and flavor line The Fountain and flavor was called Coded.
A cherry slush flavor. Google it.

 

[B2L]

It was a commercial premix by I think Ohm Vapes, and called Fountain. A cherry slushy flavor.

Yeah, I found it (and ordered some ) and posted it here and then realized that I didn’t read the OP very well

Thanks Bad

 

[b.m.]

Have you tried Realflavors cherry?
I haven't tried their straight cherry flavor,but they have a cherry pie flavor that tasted very authentic to me,which was a surprise because every other cherry i had tasted was like cough syrup,but that cherry pie was really good.I meant to get the straight cherry to try but forgot about it until now haha.