Sebastopol smoking ban in appartments

[rothenbj]

California always leads the way-

Sebastopol approves tough smoking ban- Watch Sonoma County

However, that stuff we can't even mention here is okay and I didn't see mention of fireplaces. Or PV's thank god.

 

[ezmoose]

Next up, no pan frying allowed in multi-unit housing!

When will the insanity cease!?

 

[harmony gardens]

I am so glad I have a house,,,

I was visiting a friend who lives in an apartment, and someone was cooking something next door that must have been loaded with onions... gees, I hate the smell of cooking onions,,,, if I told her to call her manager to do something about it, what would they do??? I hope if these people get thier way, that I can do something, too.

We were going to go outside so she could have a cig, but there was a big sign that said they had just sprayed for weeds around the building, so I just went home.

 

[jamesam1243]

July 24, 2010 at 7:26 pm
What, shared vents between apartments? it’s been a few years since i was involved in such things, but shared vents between apartments were totally illegal long ago. it’s not cigarette smoke they are concerned with, it is orderless carbon monoxide from one burning unit killing everyone in the complex before they even know of the danger. there was one hotel out west that that happened!
call your state and federal governments and report this and unless they are being paid off by the mafia, the complex will be shut down!


or have these public safety standards been repealed in in favor of profits? could be

or is that most multi dwelling units were built as death traps recently and if they were all shut down there would be no place to live?

i believe it was Nancy Reagan who would not live in the Cali Governor's mansion because she considered it a death trap

James

 

[Vocalek]

Next up, no pan frying allowed in multi-unit housing!

When will the insanity cease!?

No cooking of any kind. It can cause smoke. Smoke kills.

 

[dave8944]

Here's more of the "change" people voted for in the last election. My goodness, the government is now all up in my shower!

a-water-fight-over-luxury-showers: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

 

[PlanetScribbles]

Here's more of the "change" people voted for in the last election. My goodness, the government is now all up in my shower!

a-water-fight-over-luxury-showers: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

That's one I happen to agree with actually. Energy and water conservation is a good thing.
Just because some people can afford to use the equivalent of 20 baths full of water per shower doesn't mean they should. That is just purely wasteful.

 

[dave8944]

That's one I happen to agree with actually. Energy and water conservation is a good thing.
Just because some people can afford to use the equivalent of 20 baths full of water per shower doesn't mean they should. That is just purely wasteful.

It's an awfully slippery slope! If you accept it here then why not to "save the kids" by banning all nicotine. Where do you draw the line and who gets to draw it? What if they don't believe as you do?

 

[rothenbj]

That's one I happen to agree with actually. Energy and water conservation is a good thing.
Just because some people can afford to use the equivalent of 20 baths full of water per shower doesn't mean they should. That is just purely wasteful.

Slippery slope here. Although, from my perspective, this use of water is a bit much, who's going to make the rules? How about someone suggesting that you can clean just as efficiently using a washbowl instead of a shower or bathtub? Let's make them illegal. Heck, I get from point a to point b at about 60 miles per gallon and there are a lot like me. Let's make it illegal to drive anything that doesn't get at least that efficient gas mileage.

The list is endless if you want to promote efficiency rather than freedom of choice. I personally don't want to go there, but no fear, either do the fat cats.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

'Education, education, education' is the answer. Las Vegas is a prime example of an area where water conservation measures will become common place. One day Lake Mead will run dry. What then?
I agree on the slippery slope thing, but when people choose to remain blissfully unaware of what is going on around them for their own self gratification, then they have to be instructed to stand to order i'm afraid. Those showerheads are a ridiculous waste of water resources.

It's an awfully slippery slope! If you accept it here then why not to "save the kids" by banning all nicotine.

Enforcing what is morally right is completely different to enforcing what is morally corrupt. Now substitute the word 'nicotine' with the word 'alco-pops' then the argument holds
Nicotine was never and will never be a product that is marketed to kids. Bacardi Breezers are possibly a different story though.

 

[Bill Godshall]

I'm not aware of any e-cigarette usage bans have been included in any smoking bans in multi-unit buildings (e.g. apartments/condomiums, public housing, or other landlord/tenant contracts).

I know and have been encouraging advocates of smokefree residential buildings to support e-cigarettes and other smokefree tobacco products as alternatives for smokers (and to not include them in smoking prohibitions).

 

[harmony gardens]

I'm not aware of any e-cigarette usage bans have been included in any smoking bans in multi-unit buildings (e.g. apartments/condomiums, public housing, or other landlord/tenant contracts).

I know and have been encouraging advocates of smokefree residential buildings to support e-cigarettes and other smokefree tobacco products as alternatives for smokers (and to not include them in smoking prohibitions).

Well, Bless you Bill,,, how about pointing out to them that tobacco is still a legal product, and it should be a persons right to smoke in thier own home, even if it is in a multi family unit??? People might have missed my point about spraying herbicides and pesticides outside of that same building, and forcing smokers to expose themselves to that, in order to smoke.

 

[Bill Godshall]

harmony gardens wrote

how about pointing out to them that tobacco is still a legal product, and it should be a persons right to smoke in thier own home, even if it is in a multi family unit???

Because none of them agree with that opinion (nor do I), and because that argument wouldn't persuade any of them to support e-cigarettes or other smokefree alternatives.

Just because a product is legal doesn't mean that its usage cannot be regulated. Guns are legal products too, but most courts would not rule that shooting guns off in an apartment building (unless used for self defense) is a legally protected right.

Stereos are also legal products, but that doesn't give apartment and condo dwellers a right to blast 150 decibell noise pollution in the middle of the night.

 

[harmony gardens]

harmony gardens wrote

how about pointing out to them that tobacco is still a legal product, and it should be a persons right to smoke in thier own home, even if it is in a multi family unit???

Because none of them agree with that opinion (nor do I), and because that argument wouldn't persuade any of them to support e-cigarettes or other smokefree alternatives.

Just because a product is legal doesn't mean that its usage cannot be regulated. Guns are legal products too, but most courts would not rule that shooting guns off in an apartment building (unless used for self defense) is a legally protected right.

Stereos are also legal products, but that doesn't give apartment and condo dwellers a right to blast 150 decibell noise pollution in the middle of the night.

So you equate shooting guns to smoking,,, and ignored the pesticide point. Well, I don't know how to not sound snarky to rebut that. We do agree on the smokeless, so I'll leave it at that... peace

 

[Vocalek]

A few years back, Maryland was considering passing a law requiring that all cars sold in the state after the year 2010 would get 50 miles per gallon. I said to my husband, "Next up, the Maryland Assembly is going to repeal the law of gravity."