What point is the OP trying to make anyway? Second hand smoke is safe so we should go back because everyone else will be okay? If you are trying to draw a comparison to 2nd hand vapor, then it is a moot point, they are two different animals.
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yes and had quit for about 4 years and he was right back to where he was w/o smoking being locked in with a heavy smoker all day *lol*
you're not serious right?
Winston-Salem give y'all the day off for Thanksgiving or is your contract on your soul include propaganda holidays? *lol*
And me? I hate second hand smoke very much. It's so annoying. It never goes away, what a bad smell.
So - at 9 years old he deserved some consideration?
I'm not really sure what to post without running into trouble here, but i'll be happy to consider scientific studies that show harm from SHS, because i think they are thin on evidence of harm.
His attendance improved because you smoked outside?
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I'm not really sure what to post without running into trouble here, but i'll be happy to consider scientific studies that show harm from SHS, because i think they are thin on evidence of harm.
His attendance improved because you smoked outside?
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I'm not , so much, concerned with second hand smoke. First hand smoke, however, was killing me. Very certainly, killing me. vaping helped me quit when I had been, repeatedly, unsuccessful at quitting before. That is what matters to me and is MUCH more appropriate to this forum.
School attendance in children is often used as a corollary to suggest overall health in children. Correlations are all that can be made here as actual experiments would be unethical. Despite what the Surgeon General's warnings say, smoking doesn't CAUSE cancer, its use is in high correlation with the development of cancer, and other diseases.
IMO, anything Rush Limbaugh puts out is garbage.
I disagree entirely with this statement. Second hand smoke is dangerous. Talk to my father-in-law who has COPD from second-hand smoke directly from my MIL's smoking habit. Hasn't smoked a cig in his life. Sad, actually.
Smoking is the main cause of COPD, not the only cause. The issue at hand is to what extent - if at all, second-hand smoke can be blamed for it.
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Well if it is true (don't know will read more) that SHS is non toxic, yet smoking bans have been put in place in many countries for this reason can't you see how that has an effect on us? If smoking was stopped because of bad science then what's to stop them doing it again with vaping. Also if SHS is harmless is it not something thats good to know when your stuff in the smokers section because you vape?
It took me that long to realize that it was my smoke causing the problem -- and in fact I didn't really *know* it was the smoke doing it, till I moved it outdoors and he got better -- *I* grew up with 2nd hand smoke all around, every minute of every day. And yes, his attendance improved because I smoked outdoors, because he didn't have 2 wks of bronchitis after every cold.
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I can't believe anyone would say or think that second hand vaping is harmless. To me it just sounds like an exuse to continue vaping.
Does this statement sound familiar? is it true?
What I find hard to believe is that people are willing to believe government institutions about smoking yet think they are lying to us about vaping. They are either trustworthy and vaping is bad or they are willing to lie for political reasons in which case the least you can do is look at the evidence and make an informed decision rather than just believing everything you hear.
Well it seems a fairly straightforward cause-and-effect. When I smoked indoors, he had complications from every cold. When he no longer lived around 2nd hand smoke, he not only didn't have the complications, he didn't catch as many colds either. Good enough for me.
I still smoked in the car, but if he started having a problem, then I tossed it out. Mostly though, since he wasn't forced to live with it constantly, it didn't cause him many problems, because I always put down my window a bit to let most of the smoke out.
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What just happened here? Someone flipped a switch and half the board is at eachothers throat over secondhand smoking?
Man your googlestations - it's article wars!
Man your googlestations - it's article wars!
I don't know if it matters any, but my son was born with bronchopulmonary dysplagia, and even though hubs and I smoked outside and never smoked in the car with him, Children's hospital still said in his medical records that he was exposed to secondhand smoke. I really felt like a crappy parent when I saw those records.
I don't believe the gov't about ANYTHING. They will lie for any reason, or no reason at all, though the reason is almost always money. I never believed that 2nd hand smoke was as bad as they said, at least not for adults with normal lungs -- kids or those with lung problems, different can of worms entirely. And no, I don't believe there is any risk from 2nd hand vapor -- I do it around my mom who has COPD, and she has ZERO problems -- and if anyone was going to have a problem with it, it would be someone with COPD.
My husband always had a problem with my smoke in our vehicle, he'd get so choked up he couldn't even talk. With vapor, the inside of the truck can look like a cloud, and it doesn't bother him AT ALL. The people in my family were not shy about telling me that my smoke bothered them; I feel sure that if my vapor bothered them, they'd tell me. So far -- zero problems.
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I didn't feel crappy, since I did take it outdoors when I realized it could be the smoke causing the problem. I was born in 1961, and EVERYBODY smoked ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE. I had only that experience to guide me, but once I realized that it might be the smoke causing the problem, I removed it from our home, and he got better. It was far harder convincing my mom to keep the smoke away from him -- not a hope in hell of getting her to go outside, but at least I finally convinced her to take it upstairs to her own room, when he was in the house.
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