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Oliver

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Now this is e-smoking!

INTRODUCTION
I ordered a Sedansa at the start of the week and received it on Thursday. It arrived in perfect condition, properly packaged and delivered by UPS.

In the package was:
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  • Two batteries,[/*:m:1gz5h2zc]
  • Standard charger and in-car charger,[/*:m:1gz5h2zc]
  • Velvet protective bag for the e-cigarette,[/*:m:1gz5h2zc]
  • Seven packets of five cartridges, one of each flavor – mint, tobacco, Marlboro, Turkish blend, apple, cherry and coffee.[/*:m:1gz5h2zc]

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

The build quality of the Sedansa is streets ahead of my previous e-ciggie (from e-cig.com). The finish is durable and scratch resistant and the engineering is far more precise – the cartridges clip in to place neatly and satisfyingly and the plastic moulding of the mouthpiece and the LED end-piece is of far greater quality.

All in all, this looks and feels like a proper bit of high-end modern technology.

The unit ships with a European-style plug fitting, so be sure to pick up an adapter - usually only a couple of $s or £s from electrical suppliers.

THE SMOKE

Eager to give it a go, I popped open a "Turkish blend" cartridge from its container, tightened the battery up and clicked the cartridge into place.

The first thing I noticed is what a light draw the Sedansa has. It is much more similar to a cigarette than my e-cig was. Sort of like the difference between a cigarette and a roll-up. Also the LED is far brighter and turns on and off in a much punchier fashion.

As soon as the vapors hit my lungs I thought “Oh yeah, this is it. This is e-smoking!” The sensations were so similar to inhaling cigarette smoke I was almost shocked.

On exhaling, a large cloud of dense mist billowed out. I was able to blow rings that lingered just like smoke rings!
I hadn’t smoked or ingested any nicotine that day, and the hit I got was very powerful. After four or five lung-fulls, I felt I’d had my fix. I ordered the strong (16mg) cartridges, which I now kind of regret, since the act of e-smoking with the Sedansa is so pleasant, but I didn’t want to over-do things.

The great thing about e-smoking is just how clean the process is. You have a smoke, get your fix, but then you don’t have any lingering odours on your person or in your environment. Your taste-buds are unaffected and your breath doesn’t stink.
I really don’t feel I am exaggerating when I say that, after trying my Sedansa, there is absolutely no point in smoking tobacco any more.

OUT AND ABOUT

So, resolved to be an exclusive e-smoker, I charged my other battery up and headed out to see a couple of friends.

Both these guys had had a go on my e-cig before, but had been relatively unimpressed, despite my evangelism! Things were far different this time round – both agreed that they could see themselves being e-smokers in the not-too-distant future and that the Sedansa is a perfect substitute. Their only concern was the price.

That really was a turn-around. My friends had both been absolutely adamant that the e-cig would not take off and that people would more likely quit than change to e-smoking. I now had one friend constantly taking the thing off me rather than go outside to have a cigarette!

You might say that my Sedansa took a bit of punishment. We were passing it round to each other and constantly drawing on it – so I did get a bit worried that we might break it, but it lasted absolutely perfectly. In fact, that first battery lasted pretty much the whole evening, out of the box! And the great thing is that when the battery did run out, rather than slowly giving up the ghost and petering out, the LED started flashing at me so I knew to change it.

That alone is a radical departure – my e-cig battery had to be changed at least twice of an evening.

THE FLAVOURS

We had a little testing session of the various flavours that I had ordered. Here are our observations:

  • Turkish blend: Unusual, sweet on the tongue, authentic taste.
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  • Coffee taste: Very mild – only the weakest hint of coffee – quite pleasant but you wouldn’t notice the flavour if you were, say, having a coffee!
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  • Marlboro: Well, not being a Marlboro smoker I can’t really offer an opinion either way as to whether it is authentic. It has a slightly “toasted” taste – could that be it? Nice flavor anyway.
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  • Apple: Yes – it’s definitely apple! It is an aroma, not a taste on the tongue – but the flavour is definitely there, particularly if you exhale through the nose.
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  • Mint: Well this is a funny one because I always hated menthol cigarettes, but this is one of my favourites. It does have some of the cooling effect of menthol, but it is far less pronounced and mintier tasting – you do also get a slight taste on the tongue with this. I suspect I find this much more agreeable because it is not mixed up with all the other tobacco flavours you get in a menthol cigarette.
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  • Tobacco taste: Well, it doesn’t. Not really. But that’s a good thing, right? Tobacco really isn’t a great taste – but this is a sort of savory smoke. It has got a complex of tastes that add up to a full overall flavour. It is quite pleasant but I prefer the Marlboro flavor.
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  • Cherry taste: Ok, this is my favorite. Again, I can’t really say that it actually tastes of cherries. I mean does cherryade actually taste of cherries? But it doesn’t matter because it is just really pleasant. Not a lot else to say really other than, “if you like cherry and and cigarettes, you’ll love this!”[/*:m:1gz5h2zc]

CONCLUSIONS

Well as I said earlier, this is it for me. Where I had doubts with my e-cig, the Sedansa has removed them for me. The technology can only get better from here on in – we will see improvements in battery technology resulting in far lighter and compact versions, and the flavors will be further developed to be more “authentic” or just more appealing.

The price issue will put some off. With an outlay of €120 ($175 / £89) it is an expensive thing to get started doing, but some simple mathematics shows that the payback comes within a couple of months for most smokers. Cost-wise, e-smoking is actually a no-brainer.

The health implications I have discussed elsewhere, but whatever your views, e-smoking is far less dangerous than smoking in every way.

There really is no reason to smoke tobacco any more. It’s as simple as that.
 

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Hi Smokey Joe...
Thanks for sharing your review with us. I just ordered the Sedansa Advantage 6 pack last night and I'm looking forward to my first e-cigarette :) I live in Toronto Canada which has very stringent no smoking policies in place. With the exception of your own home and car there is almost no indoor/sheltered location where you can light-up anymore -In fact a local mall has now prohibitted smoking anywhere on its property, including, in your own car while parked on its lot!
I was hoping that you might be able to answer a question or two about the Sedansa e-cigarette. When you exhale the "smoke" (nicotine vapour) from any of our cartridges, does it produce any detectable odor? Does the vapour accumulate in the room your "smoking", and does it discolour or stain anything? I currently live in a rented basement apartment with a no smoking clause. I'm hoping if the e-smoking vapours don't create an odor or discolour things (drapes, upholstery, ect) that I may be able to e-smoke indoors? Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Mark
 

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Hey Mark, I think you are really going to enjoy e-smoking (we must come up with a better name for it than that!).

Funny you should ask about the vapours, because I was going to make a little post on that some time. It doesn't accumulate as such, certainly not in the way that cigarette smoke does anyway. You will see your puff of mist linger in the air for a minute or so but then it is gone, with no trace.

However, and I may be wrong about this, I noticed that my computer screen was a bit dirty yesterday and when cleaning it, I found there was a slightly oily residue on it. Not much, but enough that I thought the only way it could have got there was from me exhaling the vapour over it - nicotine, I believe, is an oily substance. There was no colour stain on the cloth I used to wipe it off. I will keep my eye on it over the next few days and let you know.

As far as odour goes - it is there but it's very weak and not unpleasant. It is basically the same odour you get from the smoke-machines at theme parks etc, but much weaker and maybe a hint of something else too. I think you'll get away with smoking it your apartment.

We now have tough no-smoking laws in the UK too, and I have been out in bars with it and had no complaints. I am yet to brazenly walk around using though! We shall see what happens when I get the nerve!

Let us know how you get on with it will you?

Regards,

SJ
 

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Smokey_Joe said:
Hey Mark, I think you are really going to enjoy e-smoking (we must come up with a better name for it than that!).

>>Agreed :)

Funny you should ask about the vapours, because I was going to make a little post on that some time. It doesn't accumulate as such, certainly not in the way that cigarette smoke does anyway. You will see your puff of mist linger in the air for a minute or so but then it is gone, with no trace.

>>Ok... interesting.

However, and I may be wrong about this, I noticed that my computer screen was a bit dirty yesterday and when cleaning it, I found there was a slightly oily residue on it. Not much, but enough that I thought the only way it could have got there was from me exhaling the vapour over it - nicotine, I believe, is an oily substance. There was no colour stain on the cloth I used to wipe it off. I will keep my eye on it over the next few days and let you know.

>>Thanks for the info. I understand that propylene glycol is the other main ingrediant used in e-cigarettes. Some of my >>quick on-line research has shown that its used in makeup and hand lotion products (amongst other things), this may >>account for the oily residue too.

As far as odour goes - it is there but it's very weak and not unpleasant. It is basically the same odour you get from the smoke-machines at theme parks etc, but much weaker and maybe a hint of something else too. I think you'll get away with smoking it your apartment.

>>Interesting that you should mention smoke-machines, as its one of the devices that use propylene glycol.
>>Does the smell differ when you use different flavored cartridges, and does it disapate very quickly?

We now have tough no-smoking laws in the UK too, and I have been out in bars with it and had no complaints. I am yet to brazenly walk around using though! We shall see what happens when I get the nerve!

Let us know how you get on with it will you?

>>Absolutely. Perhaps I could trouble you with one more question. Do you feel as "satisfied" with "smoking" one e-cigarette >>compared with a regular one? Thanks for your time and effort.

>>Regards,
>>Mark


SJ
 

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I wonder if Sedansa has improved recently? My first e-cig was a Sedansa and I wasn't impressed but looking at the website, I notice a few additional flavours etc. I now use an e cigar into which I drip nicotine liquid and tht is pretty good. As far as I can make out it leaves no lasting odour.
To me the e-cig process is more a "vaping" than a "smoking" experience. As a matter of fact I'm just having my first vape of the day! :D
 

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Hi guys,

Mark - The satisfaction question is a tricky one. I would say yes I do find it as satisfying now, but my e-ciggie didn't give me quite the hit that my Sedansa does. Whether going straight from cigarettes to e-ciggies will be satisfying to you or not initially I can't quite say, but I'm pretty sure that you'll find it does replace the experience very fast, especially as you "learn" to smoke the thing - does that make sense?!

Woody - that is interesting, when did you buy your Sedansa out of interest? I guess the models get updated very quickly as new ones are developed - I have to say that I found the quality to be excellent.

I would call it vaping, but that seems to have been claimed by the marijuana fraternity! Perhaps we can have it off them!
 

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Mmmm Yes, you are right. The average cigarette smoker would not want to be thought of as using illegal drugs. We must think again. E- smoking is okay by me.
I bought my sedansa in August. At the time I had been an unhappy non smoker for 8 months and missed nicotine and the whole smoking experince. I was a liitle nervous about purposely re-addicting myself but I don't regret it. We seem to gain some of the pleasure of smoking without the health risks. Although the sedansa was of good quality it didn't seem to have much taste. The new flavoured cartridges may have addressed that problem. My favouite smoke at the moment is the e-cigar with liquid nicotine added. Maybe I will order some cartridges from Sedansa to see how much better they are these days. Alternatively the new mini may be worth looking at. I just don't like the fact that it resembles a cigarette. Given the choice I would also eliminate the light on the end which doesn't actually add anything to the smoking experience. It just isn't needed.
The good news, for me, is that I just got over a cold without having to suffer that nasty cough and chest infection experienced by so many smokers. This seems to prove that e-cigs are indeed a healthier option. :)
 

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Hey Woody, we should get a list of names for e-smoking and then when we have enough users we'll have a poll to see which people prefer.

Anyway, back to the Sedansa - when you talk about flavour, are you actually after an authentic cigarette smoke taste? I ask this because what surprised me most when trying out the flavors is that I actually prefer the other varieties. I find it is more about the sensation of feeling the smoke in the lungs than the actual taste.

The best ones to me are the ones that mask the main aroma of the ingredients the best. It seems to me that mint and cherry do this best.

I totally agree about the light by the way. I'd far prefer mine to be without it - the only thing it is good for IMO is as a low-battery warning, but since it is on the end you can't see when you're puffing anyway! Maybe a small one on the side would be good?

Good news about the cold - that really is reassuring.

All the best, SJ
 

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Re the taste thing SJ, I mean I like to feel the vapour hitting my lungs and also to taste some sort of flavour. The fruity varieties seem to work quite well. The e cigar has a heavier taste somehow and that is quite satisfying. My sedansa back in August had too much of a fresh air taste for me with no kick and after trying the cigar model I gave up on the Sedansa altogether. I plan to order some flavoured cartridges and give it another try.
With any luck, manufacturers read these posts and will hopefully take on board our opinions. That is a good thing for the future. Now we just need general acceptance of this safer smoking alternative!
Woody
 

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I hear you Woody, and totally agree - it is all about that full-lung sensation.

I feel I am getting an excellent hit from my Sedansa but, who knows, I may be missing out. My next purchase is going to be a mini and e-smoker who posts on this board assures me that it is a real good smoker.

Regards, SJ
 

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Smokey_Joe said:
Hi guys,

Mark - The satisfaction question is a tricky one. I would say yes I do find it as satisfying now, but my e-ciggie didn't give me quite the hit that my Sedansa does. Whether going straight from cigarettes to e-ciggies will be satisfying to you or not initially I can't quite say, but I'm pretty sure that you'll find it does replace the experience very fast, especially as you "learn" to smoke the thing - does that make sense?!

Hi Smokey_Joe... Thanks for the info. I'm sure there must be some sort of adjustment phase that you go through when you switch to e-cigarettes. Do you smoke any regular cigarettes now or strictly the sedansa. When I placed my order I selected 6 packs of heavy nicotine cartridges, thinking that because there was no tobacco or real smoke that I'd need them to compensate. But now after reading how happy most are converting I think I'll fire off an email and switch them to medium.

Regards,
Mark
 

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Mark - I'd say that was a good plan - in the instruction booklet it says that you should take 12 puffs to replicate one cigarette.

I think you'll find you want to smoke it a bit more than that so if you go for a lower nicotine content you'll be better off.

I have to say, just as a word of caution, that since you don't have the same cut off as with a cigarette (ie stubbing it out!), the temptation is to just carry on puffing.


Users should be quite careful about this and exert some self-discipline to avoid inhaling too much nicotine. Perhaps in the future the e-cig will have a function that enables you to set a limit to the number of puffs you can take before it stops working for, say, a minute or two.

It's occurred to me that we should have a forum to outline our feature requests, for any manufacturers that read the forum to think about. What do you reckon, shall I set it up?

As far as normal cigarettes go - yeah I've had a couple, but to be honest I found them pretty revolting - and boy did I feel rubbish in the morning! The trouble with nicotine addiction is you never feel completely satisfied by smoking a cigarette - there's always the feeling that you need a bit more, and the same goes for an e-ciggie. The trouble is that when you start with the e-ciggie, you think "I wonder if I'm really getting the same hit that I get with cigarettes? "

Well, I have to say I'm certain that you do - you'll probably need to do a bit of a comparison to convince yourself in the beginning, but after that you won't look back.

Unnecessary Oscar Wilde quote follows:
A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want?
 

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Hi Smokey Joe...
I'm glad to read that you're happy with your Sedansa. As I've mentioned earlier I also purchased one of their e-cigarettes and I'm anxiously awaiting its arrival. Unfortunately a "problem" has now cropped up between myself and Sedansa. I want to give them a chance to resolve it first before going public with the details. If I am unable to resolve this problem I will be going elsewhere for my e-cigarette needs. I know you've used the "e-cig" and I was wondering if you know if you can use their cartridges in the Sedansa e-cigarette? Thanks.

Mark
 

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Hi mark - Yes you can use the e-cig cartridges in the Sedansa.

They are lower quality but they do work.

I hope your problem gets resolved with Sedansa!

Regards, SJ

Hi SJ...
Thanks for the prompt reply. By "lower quality" do you mean that they don't produce as much vapor, gum up the vaporizer, or provide the same "hit" as the Sedansa ones do? Thanks.

Mark
 

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Hey Mark,

Actually, all I meant was that the plastic moulding is a little less well produced than that of Sedansa - as far as the solution goes , I can't really tell the difference between the "regular" flavours. I suspect that where ingredients are concerned, it is all much of a muchness, but I can't say with any authority.

I'm not really the best person to ask though, because I am pretty much exclusively "vaping" the cherry flavor Sedansa cartridges!

SJ
 

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Hi SJ
It's good you still enjoy your Sedansa. I currently use the e-cigar from e-cig along with apple flavoured liquid nicotine that I drip. I started with the njoy but dripping killed it. :cry: I still find the e-cigar the best option, even after trying the new mini, which is hopeless. Every inhalation puts liquid in my mouth and there is almost no taste and hardly any smoke. E-cig are going to replace it free of charge but I suspect it won't be much better. I'd like to find e-liquid with more kick though. My original njoy cartridges had more guts so this must be possible. All in all it beats being a smoker and it also beats being a non smoker.
 
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