Senate working on bill to regulate e-cigarettes

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"It's something in the base solution," he said. "The base solution is made up of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin. These are oils. Petroleum."
Grrrr @ Olfert.

Glycerin is a sugar alcohol derived from animal products, plants or petroleum.
What Is Vegetable Glycerin? Uses, Benefits and Side Effects

It's missing the fatty acids that would make it an oil. And it's water soluble.
PG is water soluble too.

Nic+PG+VG might very well cause the damage to circulatory system, but he's missing the nic-only and no-nic PG/VG studies as a control. IMO.

Chronic exposure to electronic cigarettes results in impaired cardiovascular function in mice. - PubMed - NCBI
 

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    It's time to buy all the spare atomizers you'll ever need before they are taken off the market. Good luck with MTL atomizers. Most everything I see is DTL.
    Got three last week and placed an order for two more last night for two more. Only one thing left to order extra wire and I am done.
     

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    I guess what I meant to say earlier is:

    I know vaping is the issue right now, but the issue of the governmental overreach of power eroding our freedoms is the larger issue. This practice is so common that I don't even need to give examples to prove it for people to understand my point. What I am wondering is if the vaping issue will provide the impetus to start a revolution. I know there's controversy and drama in life, but it feels like a LARGE change is imminent, and not just for vaping.
     
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    mightymen

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    I guess what I meant to say earlier is:

    I know vaping is the issue right now, but the issue of the governmental overreach of power eroding our freedoms is the larger issue. This practice is so common that I don't even need to give examples to prove it for people to understand my point. What I am wondering is if the vaping issue will provide the impetus to start a revolution. I know there's controversy and drama in life, but it feels like a LARGE change is imminent, and not just for vaping.
    There was a revolution it started in 2106 - and its growing!
     

    stols001

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    IDK what will happen, but if Texas is planning on seceding I need some ADVANCE notice, I want in. I think Douglas is almost as safe now. LOL.

    ALSO, it FEELS huge to US, those who know, to everyone else, not a HUGE deal, I don't think. It's more driven by the interest groups than by the populace.

    Also, did Justin Trudeau secede to the whims of Ivanka Trump? I am thinking NOT. She kept leering at him at every opportunity and there was almost this cartoon bubble over his head, going "Mon dieu! When is this idiot ..... of the president going to stop drooling down my shirt? Will I have to actually SAY something?"

    I hold out hope for Canada.

    What I thought was utterly adorable about Ivanka was like, she DID NOT GET THE HINT. Not even once. I think probably Mr. Trudeau was like, "I would have some hesitancy about ANYONE that like, Trump would choose to date and in THIS case they are biologically related. JUST NO."
     

    sonicbomb

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    The machinery to destroy vaping moves slowly, but that moment has arrived. It reminds me of a passage from Neuromancer by William Gibson.

    "One time, I was a little kid, we were squatting. It was down by the Hudson, and those rats, man, they were big. It's the chemicals get into them. Big as I was, and all night one had been scrabbling under the floor of the squat. Round dawn somebody brought this old man in, seams down his cheeks and his eyes all red. Had a roll of greasy leather like you'd keep steel tools in, to keep the rust off. Spread it out, had this old revolver and three shells. Old man, he puts one bullet in there, then he starts walking up and down the squat, we're hanging back by the walls.

    `Back and forth. Got his arms crossed, head down, like he's forgotten the gun. Listening for the rat. We got real quiet. Old man takes a step. Rat moves. Rat moves, he takes another step. An hour of that, then he seems to remember his gun. Points it at the floor, grins, and pulls the trigger. Rolled it back up and left.

    `I crawled under there later. Rat had a hole between its eyes.' She was watching the sealed doorways that opened at intervals along the corridor. `The second one, the one who came for Johnny, he was like that old man. Not old, but he was like that. He killed that way...
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