Senators Call on FDA to Restrict the Sale, Distribution, and Marketing of E-Cigarettes

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I still don't understand why they aren't doing this about real cigarettes! I understand it's a very large profit for the US, but how are they going to say anything about vaping affecting your health?

Want to watch an elected official break out in a sweat,
shake like a leaf on a tree, and crap their pants?

Insist they oppose the FDA on any issue.
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Notice the one thing that all those Senators have in common...

Aren't all those senators just a bunch of drunks? Seriously, how many folks die as a result of alcohol use every year and nary a peep from these pompous self-righteous hypocritical senators.
 
Aren't all those senators just a bunch of drunks? Seriously, how many folks die as a result of alcohol use every year and nary a peep from these pompous self-righteous hypocritical senators.

Hey now! I haven't died from alcoho....*plop*

Nah, this is why when I vote, it's usually never for one particular party. Plus also, I think all of them are just a bunch of raving lunatics that are out for themselves. I don't mind them looking out for me and all, but not to this nanny state point. It's moronic at best.
 

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Not only all they all Democrats they are all from northern states with financial problems. Since when does a politician have to do research and report the facts accurately. The bad part is that the definition of "tobacco" and "smoking" are the same for most non smokers. Who in their right mind would not oppose any legislation against any tobacco product.

Somewhat related, I just saw a story on Fox News where Obama is proposing a new "Early Education" program for the children" that will cost around 80 billion over 10 years. It will be paid for by almost doubling the federal tax on tobacco products. The problem, as reported by Fox news, is that there aren't enough smokers left to generate that kind of money.

I'm a new vaper but the more I study this the less concerned I am about our "juice" going away. I think that somewhere in the near future a 10 ml bottle of juice will be $6.00 and taxes on it will be $20.00. Never forget, "Follow the money". If our government really "cared" about our health and "protecting our children" there would be a total ban on all tobacco products. You would see "Bust" of local "Tobacco Houses" on your local news. $400+ billion in annual tobacco taxes aren't going away in my lifetime.
 

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I'm all for limiting sales of e-cigs to people of the appropriate age, but the problem is if you let em get started other things will appear in the law to make it harder to legitimately get your vapeing supplies even if your of age. Same crap happened when they passed the internet piracy crap, I've had my internet suspended 3 times for torrenting protocols used by a game to update itself because it included a descriptor word of a popular movie at the time, though I doubt that's what was originally intended, but its what got put into effect by lobbyists with deep pockets. Same crap will happen here. All in the name of the bottom line though, notice how the price of traditional cigs shot up with the new taxes, then again when the Big Tobacco corps were "forced" to redesign the packaging. I bet if you look into who lobbied for both laws you'll find Phillip Morris and friends were a big driving force behind both.
 

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Not only all they all Democrats they are all from northern states with financial problems. Since when does a politician have to do research and report the facts accurately. The bad part is that the definition of "tobacco" and "smoking" are the same for most non smokers. Who in their right mind would not oppose any legislation against any tobacco product.

Somewhat related, I just saw a story on Fox News where Obama is proposing a new "Early Education" program for the children" that will cost around 80 billion over 10 years. It will be paid for by almost doubling the federal tax on tobacco products. The problem, as reported by Fox news, is that there aren't enough smokers left to generate that kind of money.

I'm a new vaper but the more I study this the less concerned I am about our "juice" going away. I think that somewhere in the near future a 10 ml bottle of juice will be $6.00 and taxes on it will be $20.00. Never forget, "Follow the money". If our government really "cared" about our health and "protecting our children" there would be a total ban on all tobacco products. You would see "Bust" of local "Tobacco Houses" on your local news. $400+ billion in annual tobacco taxes aren't going away in my lifetime.

Why isn't our tax monies being used for that already, I wonder. Must be the expense of all those No-smoke, TobaccoFree, SmokeSfree, NicotineFree sites and literature, phone calls, propaganda. Aren't those presided by the same person?
 

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I'm all for limiting sales of e-cigs to people of the appropriate age, but the problem is if you let em get started other things will appear in the law to make it harder to legitimately get your vapeing supplies even if your of age. Same crap happened when they passed the internet piracy crap, I've had my internet suspended 3 times for torrenting protocols used by a game to update itself because it included a descriptor word of a popular movie at the time, though I doubt that's what was originally intended, but its what got put into effect by lobbyists with deep pockets. Same crap will happen here. All in the name of the bottom line though, notice how the price of traditional cigs shot up with the new taxes, then again when the Big Tobacco corps were "forced" to redesign the packaging. I bet if you look into who lobbied for both laws you'll find Phillip Morris and friends were a big driving force behind both.
No,look at Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and where their 8 billion goes.
 

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The posts above lead me to one conclusion, and that's scary. Having one conclusion. That the money generators i.e. BIG GOV., BIG PHARM, and BIG TOBACCO, are a ferocious cash nawing cow with an insatiable appetite. We, being vapers and alternatives nicotine users, who now are large enough in numbers per capita, to have generated incomes, products, sales figures with growth potential... we are in their myopic money eyes as tonights dinner kill. No matter how much our revolution is saving lives, leading the way in removing 400 years of karmic mis-use of tobacco by smoking it. We know, we centralize and advertise how good it feels to stop smoking. We are not buying their products, (BT, BG, and BP and the Health Agencies taboot). Available without perscription, to any age that can get their hands on them cigarettes, poisonous, who cares, gigantically profittable taxed products (WHETHER CIGARETTES OR E-CIGARETTES) to fund the humanitarian early childhood educations that wouldn't be funded otherwise, this makes social issues, the unimportant issues as compared to war mongering. Humanitarianism is not a stock you can buy, this truth of itself is meaningless it isn't of immediate interest here in a money driven world. Humanitarian interests are fine when they don't make a dime! Depressing sometimes, if I want to put a bandaid on the pain of all this, there is always the personal freedom to believe in something above and beyond, where there is truth, justice and peace The powers that be workings of this world are dominated by the "Prince of the World"! Amen it's Sunday afterall. :vapor:
 
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The posts above lead me to one conclusion, and that's scary. Having one conclusion. That the money generators i.e. BIG GOV., BIG PHARM, and BIG TOBACCO, are a ferocious cash nawing cow with an insatiable appetite. We, being vapers and alternatives nicotine users, who now are large enough in numbers per capita, to have generated incomes, products, sales figures with growth potential... we are in their myopic money eyes as tonights dinner kill. No matter how much our revolution is saving lives, leading the way in removing 400 years of karmic mis-use of tobacco by smoking it. We know, we centralize and advertise how good it feels to stop smoking. We are not buying their products, (BT, BG, and BP and the Health Agencies taboot). Available without perscription, to any age that can get their hands on them cigarettes, poisonous, who cares, gigantically profittable taxed products (WHETHER CIGARETTES OR E-CIGARETTES) to fund the humanitarian early childhood educations that wouldn't be funded otherwise, this makes social issues, the unimportant issues as compared to war mongering. Humanitarianism is not a stock you can buy, this truth of itself is meaningless it isn't of immediate interest here in a money driven world. Humanitarian interests are fine when they don't make a dime! Depressing sometimes, if I want to put a bandaid on the pain of all this, there is always the personal freedom to believe in something above and beyond, where there is truth, justice and peace The powers that be workings of this world are dominated by the "Prince of the World"! Amen it's Sunday afterall. :vapor:



We, being vapers and alternatives nicotine users, who now are large enough in numbers per capita, to have generated incomes, products, sales figures with growth potential... we are in their myopic money eyes as tonights dinner kill.

Lisa,you have HIT the NAIL on THE HEAD..
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if they are somewhat fearful as someone posted earlier, if noting else due to the fact that enough vapers in business and using could very well shift the economy in such a way as tobacco and alcohol have done.

And the biggest deal and what I imagine they are fearful of, is the fact that their hand is not, in any way,shape,or form in the honey pot.

I'm indulging in a bit of fanciful opinion in the above statement. But the more I look into what is going on in publications and media just before the FDA announcement next month many high powered "forces" are trying to quell this revolution, and it is a revolution,in the sense that many people smoke, and if that population ever got to vaping, all of them instead of smoking, and it was found to be healthier. And it was found that it really is no more harmful than patches or gums, or, oh my word , chantix.. Then how do you tax something, how do you get "your" portion of it if in effect. It does not relegate itself to a "sin tax".

They want it to go back to Pre-2007 cig a-likes as it will be more apt to be demonized by those who consider nicotine in any form to be "a dirty habit".

And hence they have full reign to "sin tax" it..

10pm musings.
 
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