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Recently I purchased a smok Procolor 225. I'm not sure if this was good choice for a newbie vapor or not. I must confess the various settings (wattage, mods, etc.) are a complete mystery to me. The brief manual that came with the kit didn't help much. I have looked at some resources online, but I still remain in a fog. How does one get a handle on it all?
 
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Recently I purchased a smok Procolor 225. I'm not sure if this was good choice for a newbie vapor or not. I must confess the various settings (wattage, mods, etc.) are a complete mystery to me. The brief manual that came with the kit didn't help much. I have looked at some resources online, but I still remain in a fog. How does one get a handle on it all?
Hi and welcome,
Did you buy the device and juice at a retail shop?
How long did you smoke and how many per day?
Where are you located?

Cheers
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Hello and welcome!

Most folks start out with wattage mode and ignore the rest at first. The drill with wattage mode is to set the wattage low, say 20 watts and vape. Turn it up a few watts, vape again. Eventually the flavor will peak and start falling off with increases in wattage. Go back to the peak, or what you like best. If you get too much wattage you will start to experience a "burnt" taste. From there regarding other modes, hang out and ask questions.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Glad you are here. We beginners start with power or wattage mode. Depending on the resistance of your coil, set the wattage much lower than the recommendation printed on the coil. Increase wattage from there. A few of us never go beyond wattage mode.
 
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Hi, welcome, and enjoy your new mod. A few questions before advice. Are you using the tank that came in a kit with it? Do you have juice? Do you know how much nicotine is in the juice?

The more info the better to give you accurate advice. And yes, it is confusing at first, especially if no one at the store showed you how to set it up and use it or if you just ordered it online.

One last question, what brand of batteries did you buy to put in the mod (it takes replaceable batteries, right?).
 

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Yes, I am using... Efest batteries. The clerk at store did go through things with me, but it was a conversation in a foreign language. Ohms? Wattage? Modes? Still very confused. I keep experimenting but I have no idea what I am doing. Thanks, Eskie.
Ohms is the resistance value assigned to the heating coil. It determines how much resistance the electrical current from the microchip (regulated mod) or battery (mechanical mod) will experience when asked to make vapor. Low resistance (lower ohm rating) coils will accept more current. Higher resistance (higher ohm rating) coils will accept less current.

Heating Coil "Resistance", or "Ohms" (in extremely broad terms)

Lower Ohm Coils Will:
  • Thicker wire (more mass) heats slower than thinner wire
  • Produce More Vapor
  • Drain The Battery Faster
  • Use E-Juice Faster
  • Produce A Warmer Tasting Vape
Higher Ohm Coils Will:
  • Thinner wire (less mass) heats faster than thicker wire
  • Produce “Less” Vapor
  • Provide A “Cooler” Tasting Vape
  • Use Less E-Juice
  • Prolong Battery Life
Wattage is the power setting that the microchip delivers to the heating coi on a regulated mod. A higher wattage setting will send more electric current (amperage) to the coil and will result in more vapor production because more e-liquid will be vaporized with the higher setting. The higher setting will also result in a warmer vape. There is usually a fine line between where more power results in a better vape or when it becomes too warm to vape. And what one vaper will consider a better vape at a particular setting will be too weak or too strong to another vaper. Everyone has their own "sweet spot".



Many modern regulated mods will have additional modes, ie temperature control, to play around with once you become comfortable using wattage mode. For the time being, focus on mastering wattage mode.

Although you are "probably" fine using Efest batteries in a regulated mod, just be aware that Efest is a China battery rewrapper who usually exaggerates the amp rating of their batteries. Using a battery with inflated (false) ratings may affect the performance of your regulated mod.

Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?


You can find the "true" amp rating of your batteries by checking Mooch's Complete List of Battery Tests.​
 
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Well the good news is you got a fairly reasonable nicotine level to use with your device, Smok products tend to lend themselves for higher vapor output and hence, more vapor per puff and it's easier to get nicotine overload etc.

I would highly recommend starting in wattage mode, as a) smok coils are all kanthal as far as I know, so you'd either have to get a different manufacturer's coils that will fit the tank (in most cases this is possible and there are handy guides for non-proprietary coils once/if you decide you need them) and also, Smok isn't really that reliable in terms of TC mode, it's really not supremely accurate compared to some other mods). Depending on your coil, you can check the side of it and its ohms will be listed (that display should show up somewhere on your mod once you attach the tank and coil) as well as recommended wattages which kind of give you a guide regarding what is a reasonable wattage (it's fine to go below, above tends to shorten coil life) but it's a guide so to speak.

Honestly most vapers start in Wattage mode, I know I did. It took me a while to get to the point where I was comfortable vaping that way, etc., and I still don't use TC 100% of the time.

If you find the vapor output overwhelming and decide you want a tank with a more cigarette like draw it's fine to put a smaller MTL tank on there, and bump up your nicotine level to MTL levels, which tend to be around 12--36 depending on amount smoked, how much nicotine "satisfies you" etc. Some reasonable choices there that aren't super expensive might include the Innoken Zenith or the Nautilus 2. I'm not going to say much about them right now, and I am in NO WAY saying you have to, ever, there are plenty of folks who started with sub0hm (high vapor output, direct lung inhale) and have remained consistently happy with their choice. Just wanted to make you aware that there are two styles of vaping (more or less) in case you are feeling like you are having trouble with the amount of vapor output.

Also, it's really normal to feel "at sea" starting out, and you will gain knowledge as you progress. I say stick with wattage mode for now and start reading up and experimenting, as you go. It gets easier, honestly.

Welcome.

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If you look at the coil it ahold say the resistance and a wattage range rating and recommended. The resistance is real. The rating is usually a gross exaggeration by the manufacturer as high numbers sell better.

The basics are take the coil and wet the visible cotton inside with several drops of juice allowing the cotton to soak it up. Assemble and fill the tank and let it soak for 5-10 minutes. Then take a few draws on the drip tip without applying any power, again to help draw more liquid into the cotton.

Then, start off at a wattage way lower than the rating and turn it up a few watts at a time until you reach the power setting that gives you the best vape. Bet it will be below or right at the bottom of that rated setting. Then you're good to go.

It's worth getting a second set of batteries so if the ones you have run low you can swap them for a fresh set. Charging them with an external charger is always a good idea. Here's a list of quality batteries recommended by out battery guru Mooch along with several reliable vendors to purchase from online to avoid any rewraps or counterfeit batteries.

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I refilled the tank today being careful not to overfill it. Unfortunately most of e-joice leaked out creating a right mess. How do I troubleshoot this problem? Am I doing something wrong or is there some factor of which I am unaware? (I hope I am not wearing out my welcome with so questions.)
We're here to help you. There is no such thing as a "stupid" question. :)

With some tanks, you're supposed to close off the air control ring when adding e-liquid to the tank. This "might" be your problem in this situation. However, trouble shooting a leaking tank can become a process of elimination.

Some tips and tricks:

Flooding is a common occurrence in e-cigarettes. The definition of flooding is getting juice into the air passage of the tank. This can include any point between the mouth piece and the very bottom part that connects to the battery. Each tank has holes in that air passage, where the wicks passthrough. This is required for the device to work properly. Unfortunately, this opens up the possibility for flooding. The trick with flooding, is knowing how to avoid it. I’ll explain a little more, but a few common causes for flooding a tank include: improper filling, over filling, pulling too hard when hitting the device, and the temperature can even play a role and/or damage.

Before I get into the explanation, let me explain how an e-cig works a little more in depth. Nearly every tank has a wick that is used to absorb the juice in the tank. Each wick has a piece of wire that wraps around it in a coil. When you activate the button on the battery, you send electricity through the wire. As the wire heats up, it vaporizes the juice that is in the wick.

Improper Filling: When filling your tank, you have to be careful not to get juice into the center tube of the tank. This center tube is the air passage. When you take a draw, air comes from the bottom of the tank, through the air passage and into your mouth. If you get juice into this passage way, your tank is flooded. In tanks that have adjustable air flow, the airflow should be closed off when refilling the tank.

Over Filling: If you over fill a tank (specifically a top coil like the ones that come with the starter kits and gift boxes), the wicks can become over saturated and just like a rain cloud, they will leak into the air passage. Once this happens, you have a flooded tank.

Pulling Too Hard: As I mentioned the wicks absorb the juice in the tank. As you pull on the device (your inhalation technique), you cause a vacuum effect that pulls juice into the wicks. If you pull too hard, you can pull in more juice then the coil can vaporize. If this happens, the juice leaks into the air passage and you have a flooded tank. Often a more gentle draw works best.

Temperature: E-Juice is a viscous liquid. Which means that as it warms up, it will thin out. And in the opposite form, it will thicken when it gets cold. When it thins, it is more difficult for the wicks to hold back the thin juice. This usually causes the wicks to over saturate and, you guessed it, it will leak into the air passage and you have a flooded tank.

Damage: There are o-rings and gaskets used that can wear out with usage. If certain ones fail, get lost, or moved out of position, leaking will occur. Other than accidentally losing something, damage can occur when its carried in a purse or a pocket or by over tightening the tank to the battery. Over tightening is a very common cause of leaking due to the damage it creates.

Why does my Tank Leak and what can I do about it? | E-Cigarette Forum

Why tanks leak! my contribution.

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    I refilled the tank today being careful not to overfill it. Unfortunately most of e-joice leaked out creating a right mess. How do I troubleshoot this problem? Am I doing something wrong or is there some factor of which I am unaware? (I hope I am not wearing out my welcome with so questions.)
    Utube is a good resource
     
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    I'm not sure if providing this information will be helpful or not.
    Current Settings
    Screen 1: 400 degrees F, 0.43 OMS, Temp/T1/40W
    Screen 2: TI Wattage 40 TCR 376
    If that is the Big Baby Beast tank that comes with kit, I doubt that you'll b using temp control which is what you're showing us.
     
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    I'm not sure if providing this information will be helpful or not.
    Current Settings
    Screen 1: 400 degrees F, 0.43 OMS, Temp/T1/40W
    Screen 2: TI Wattage 40 TCR 376

    If that is the Big Baby Beast tank that comes with kit, I doubt that you'll b using temp control which is what you're showing us.
    It's extremely helpful information.

    Those settings are for Temp Control mode.
    The SMOK tanks use kanthal wire in the coils, which are incompatible for temp control. Switch your mod to wattage mode.
     
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