Setup suggestions.

[Boden]

So what would be an example of the latter? It seems like everything is made for that high vg nowadays. I heard on some of the subohm tanks if your juice is too thin it will just flood lol. And like I said I'm moving towards high vg and low nic. Its what my vape shop sells and my equipment is good at. I feel like a sheep following the herd. But I'm OK with the big clouds and if it keeps me from smoking. All the better

Nautilus or GS air or anything here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/the-overlooked-tootle-puffer-gear-thread.703116/

 

[Scotticus93]

Nautilus or GS air or anything here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/the-overlooked-tootle-puffer-gear-thread.703116/

I'll definitely check it out tho like I said I've steered away from that. And I'm not just crowd following. There's a reason the tanks are so popular. I do remember I used to vape mostly pg through my nautilus. Halo tobaccos tasted like heaven in that thing. But they are expensive. Good thing you are vaping low tho. The new tanks guzzle juice. Gotta use low nic lol

 

[4evermetalhead]

Nautilus or GS air or anything here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/the-overlooked-tootle-puffer-gear-thread.703116/

Ohhhhh. Come onnn. @Boden that's unfair. Now i have to start all over again reading on tanks and mods.

The metalhead.

 

[4evermetalhead]

I'll definitely check it out tho like I said I've steered away from that. And I'm not just crowd following. There's a reason the tanks are so popular. I do remember I used to vape mostly pg through my nautilus. Halo tobaccos tasted like heaven in that thing. But they are expensive. Good thing you are vaping low tho. The new tanks guzzle juice. Gotta use low nic lol

Halo juices are any good? Organic?? Have you used anything else other than tobacco blends? Like fruits or similar?

Oh btw i am going to be vaping for nicotine at probably 6???
Then id be lowering that level once i get off stinkers to hopefully 0.
I should probably start with a 50/50 mix on 6mg with STM? I am thinking on getting a second flavour as well which is going to be for nicotine intake as well but have a different mix to use with tfv4. I think TFV4 is going to be my night chill out vaping tank as it will be to intense for all day vape.

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[Scotticus93]

Halo juices are any good? Organic?? Have you used anything else other than tobacco blends? Like fruits or similar?

Thanks,
the metalhead.

The only vendor that I know that's reputable that sells organic is virgin vapors. I'm sure there's more but I heard they got some good stuff. I personally don't care if its organic but check them out and let me know what you think. I heard they got good fruits. I don't use too much tobacco anymore. Ive been vaping tobacco apple blend last week lol. but I like fruit, candy and dessert vapes more now. That's just me tho. Coming off quitting you can find some decent tobaccos but its hit and miss. The only tobaccos I ever liked was net.com but shipping took forever and also heathers heavenly vapes and I think halo takes the cake. Also if you find something called bobas bounty by alien visions. That stuff is so good but will gunk coils like crazy. Research around juices yourself on forum. Lots of great info. I like to go test juices out in vape shops in person too sometimes. Cuz I'll order juices online and find I don't like them and wasted money. All up to you tho. Also don't forget to let your juices steep for a week or two

 

[4evermetalhead]

New subject to read on. Steeping the juice.

Also fyi i edited the above post just in case you want to add a word.

Thanks,
The matalhead.

 

[Boden]

On steeping; it depends on the eliquid. Fruits and light flavored sweets generally don't need any ageing. Tobaccos and bakery flavors sometimes get better with some age.

 

[4evermetalhead]

is there a zamplebox like option for European countries?

BTW i just saw a video of riptrippers for vaping allergies. This has set me going more for multi-juice multi-ratios mix so i can find out what is better for me. (FYI to other readers, vaping does not mean you will do have allergies)
One thing that made me jealous on that vid is his passion while describing how his smell taste and better breathing came back. SOOOOOOO jealous. I barely smell, my taste is little to none some times and i cant run or what so ever. HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO BE A GOOD FATHER TO MY TWO SONS IF I CANT PLAY FOOTBALL WITH THEM.

At very random situations though i smell and taste great, man it feels like im in heaven at that point.

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hello fellas,

Been off the forum a bit.
Seems that my sons managed to pass on the flu again.
That is one of the biggest reasons i haven't wrapped up the first post yet with info to other newbs. I am randomly falling asleep when i am not at work and sleeping like a bull. So tired, thankfully my wife never gets sick. NEVER.

Anyway, i bet everyone of you proud ex-smockers remember how it feels to be sick and smocking, or cigarette smell etc. Right?
Well, yesterday i reached my maximum of feeling disgust to smell, taste etc of smocking. At a point i was actually somewhat forcing my self to finish off that stink.
So last night i decided that this cannot go on like this for more than a day. My chest, lungs and throat had a massive burn and felt heavier with each puff. I have no idea why i even got into thinking to have a smoke like this. Today i am much better and had a couple of them. Felt much more better than yesterday.

I took the leap of faith last night and ordered locally (in CY) one of those cheap eGo style pens 1000mah'ish and a juice. (you know i don't like this style etc but i cant wait for my order to arrive from China) I paid for the pen starter eGo kit a 10ml (6mg) juice and courier services about 30 Euros. Which is not much for a really cheap starter kit to get the vape rolling.
I will probably receive my order in 3-4 hours.
Now, problem is that i will need some time for steeping. Man on the phone said juice is ready to go, but of course taste a bit first, if is not my style steep it a bit and get things from there.

So, anyone can give me a heads up what to expect for vaping while being sick?
Cant wait to get this cheap thing in my hands and start vaping. And of course i cant wait to get my hands on my order to arrive with tanks and mod.

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[Boden]

Since this is your first Vape take it slowly. Shallow mouth to lung hits or you will cough hard. It is a different sensation than smoking so sip some water and take it easy.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Thanks Boden.

As weird as it may sound like, I have been doing video lessons. (i was watching instructions on Youtube on how to correctly vape for the first time.)

I think i am going to do well on the first vape. Its the sickness i am afraid, i think its going to change the vape taste/smell to something really different. But i wont back down anyway, its now or never buddy.

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hello people,

Yesterday and today I was on a business trip. I had my cheap kit which I purchased online from current location local shop.
So these are my findings.

The setup: tank is an ego style Aspire atomizer BVC, this did not say much so I research online, I believe is an aspire ce5 with a BVC atomizer from aspire as well.
Battery is a 900mah with a single button. No vv vw tc etc. Simple press and vape from vision ecig.
A USB charger from joytech for ego type screw on type. And an ego case.
Juice is a dekang bio 10ml 70℅pg 30%vg 6mg nic. (I don't know why, I wanted 50-50, on the order there was no indication the mix% and I did not ask this over the phone as I forgot.)

So primed coil, steeped 10 hours and breathed 30 minutes, charged the battery (took 10 minutes or so so I guess it was precharged before hand). All were perfect and ready to Vale.

So I made the first puff as mouth to lung. Nothing. No vape no throat hit no taste just a really small mist with a difference in smell.
So I took another longer one. Better, no satisfaction though.
Did a lung inhale. Boom. Throat hit reminded me my first cigarette (camel yellow). Vapor production was on the poor side, taste was very very little.
So I was chain gaping till I arrived home, vaped before bed and that was it. Had a couple of spit backs gurgling.
Very good satisfying feeling but it defenetely could have been better if had mods tanks etc.

Today though I chain caped all morning then all hell broke loose.
It was constantly gurgling, spiting back and leaking from mouth piece and air holes on tank base.
Keep in mind that this tank seems to overheat after 4 chain lung puffs, so in between I was allowing 10-15 minutes to cool.
The more I vaped the more I liked it, the more issues the more I wanted to set it on fire.

Disassembled and assembled more than 10 times for cleaning.
Still same after 1st puff.

So now I found out that chimney thingy is not straight. Is not centered with coil hole of the BVC Atty.
I tried everything and can't understand what's wrong here.

FYI I am left with 1/4 of juice as 1/4 was wasted on cleaning etc.
I don't know how to fix this so I can still cape until my mod etc arrive.
Refilling and recharging is about every 3-⁴ hours.

I knew I won't like ego stuff that's why I went straight to mods etc.
Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks,
The metalhead.

 

[Boden]

Hello people,

Yesterday and today I was on a business trip. I had my cheap kit which I purchased online from current location local shop.
So these are my findings.

The setup: tank is an ego style Aspire atomizer BVC, this did not say much so I research online, I believe is an aspire ce5 with a BVC atomizer from aspire as well.
Battery is a 900mah with a single button. No vv vw tc etc. Simple press and vape from vision ecig.
A USB charger from joytech for ego type screw on type. And an ego case.
Juice is a dekang bio 10ml 70℅pg 30%vg 6mg nic. (I don't know why, I wanted 50-50, on the order there was no indication the mix% and I did not ask this over the phone as I forgot.)

So primed coil, steeped 10 hours and breathed 30 minutes, charged the battery (took 10 minutes or so so I guess it was precharged before hand). All were perfect and ready to Vale.

So I made the first puff as mouth to lung. Nothing. No vape no throat hit no taste just a really small mist with a difference in smell.
So I took another longer one. Better, no satisfaction though.
Did a lung inhale. Boom. Throat hit reminded me my first cigarette (camel yellow). Vapor production was on the poor side, taste was very very little.
So I was chain gaping till I arrived home, vaped before bed and that was it. Had a couple of spit backs gurgling.
Very good satisfying feeling but it defenetely could have been better if had mods tanks etc.

Today though I chain caped all morning then all hell broke loose.
It was constantly gurgling, spiting back and leaking from mouth piece and air holes on tank base.
Keep in mind that this tank seems to overheat after 4 chain lung puffs, so in between I was allowing 10-15 minutes to cool.
The more I vaped the more I liked it, the more issues the more I wanted to set it on fire.

Disassembled and assembled more than 10 times for cleaning.
Still same after 1st puff.

So now I found out that chimney thingy is not straight. Is not centered with coil hole of the BVC Atty.
I tried everything and can't understand what's wrong here.

FYI I am left with 1/4 of juice as 1/4 was wasted on cleaning etc.
I don't know how to fix this so I can still cape until my mod etc arrive.
Refilling and recharging is about every 3-⁴ hours.

I knew I won't like ego stuff that's why I went straight to mods etc.
Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks,
The metalhead.

First problem is 6mg eliquid. Very weak sauce.

As far as the tank, can you take a picture?

 

[4evermetalhead]

First problem is 6mg eliquid. Very weak sauce.

As far as the tank, can you take a picture?

Hi boden,

Can you explain further what do you mean by saying that 6mg is not good?

I get the file is to large for the server to process error while uploading. So i have to find a way to shrink size or upload elsewhere?

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[Boden]

Hi boden,

Can you explain further what do you mean by saying that 6mg is not good?

I get the file is to large for the server to process error while uploading. So i have to find a way to shrink size or upload elsewhere?

Thanks,
the metalhead.

Well the people who told you that 6mg would be strong enough are high volume low nicotine vapers using high volume Vape gear. What you have is low volume high nicotine gear. That is why you are chain vaping and getting low satisfaction. ( and wearing out your battery and gear doing it )

If you have photoshop or some other photo processing software reduce the file size to around 500 pixel tall.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hi Boden,

Actually i was not chain vaping because of low nic satisfaction. I was chain vaping because vaping feels great and because sometimes i could get the right puff so i was doing it again, i would also vape to get the, as it felt, "excess" juice out of the coil, etc i had 3 tank fulls in a day both because i was vaping a lot and because the tank would just either chew it up with gurgling or with leaking.
Anyway, i think i am going to a local shop that i saw yesterday near by and get a new juice.

Should i go for 50-50 9mg (vg based nic)? I need more vapor than what i get now, need more taste (without having the actual juice on my tongue).
I think that the juice is probably not the best option in brands. Honestly i haven't yet researched the company but from the name itself i believe is Chinese stuff. (not necessarily bad but definitely from batch to batch these will be different etc)

Will these images do? Note that i took images of the chimney position above coils, if you zoom the images and have a look you will notice that the chimney is not centered. I think that the chimney is my issue here.

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hello again people,

I think i might have found the "solution" to the problem.
Seems that chain vaping or anything about similar, will cause the coil to heat, due to low volume of juice and tank been plastic, the heat is trapped in the tank. This causes the "empty" area of the tank to heat the air, air then expands creating pressure in the tank causing the juice to give way by "escaping" through air intake holes.

So after this theory i made i did two simple things.
1. I chain vaped for 5 minutes or so. Had a minor leak and minor gurgle, spit back kind of less, about 1-2% less than before (after a good cleaning).
2. went easy on puffing allowing to cool between puffs. No leaks, gurgle became even less but not non existent, spit back is the same.

Now what i don't understand is the high consumption of this tank/coil or what so ever. Only thing i can think is that it vaporizes into the tank from the heat escaping from wherever it can pass through. Or, juice thins from the heat creating a higher consumption on the coil. (keep in mind that if i refill the tank, first few puffs have less consumption than the ones that follow)
My thoughts are that if the tank was bigger allowing more juice in and a pyrex glass, this wouldn't happen now as this would mean it has better cool down and less damage on juice.

Also by the time i need to refill the tank, this degank juice tastes and smells nowhere near to what it was at refill. Bliah, its like i am vaping beans or something.
I would love to get my hands on a better juice. 4 euros this 10ml Juice is not a good deal. Probably by tomorrow morning i will run out, which means it lasted me approximately 2 and a half days and it was not enjoyable, to be fair, it is not my likes.


Thanks,
the metalhead.

P.S even though the chimney IS not straight and does not center correctly on the sealing of coil, seems not to be a major issue as i believed yesterday.
Still has to be an issue or help in general.

 

[Chip H.]

Anyone could advise if organic juice is any better in any way?

No, and, myself, I would stay far away such any juice claiming to be organic without knowing precisely why it's allegedly "organic".

While it's easy enough to find organically sourced VG, that's about where the functional practicality of organic juice ends. PG is not organic, and it's doubtful you could ever claim purified nicotine to be organic. Then you come to the matter of flavorings used for the juice.

The vast majority of commercially available flavorings out there are going to be partly or all synthetic, i.e. not organic. These are flavorings that need to survive cooking, long term storage, and, in our case, aerosolization from a hot coil. Never mind that the never organic PG is the optimal carrier for commercial flavorings used for juices. There are some flavorings available in VG, but that is the exception rather than the norm, and they will never be as convenient to work with as PG carried flavorings (alcohol can be used as a flavoring carrier, but then you have to deal with juices that have a lengthier aging time to get rid of the alcohol)

When it comes to vaping, the most likely source for potential risks are the flavorings, regardless of sourcing. Vaping kind of turns the usual reason some people want organic on its head. If you want to avoid unknown risks when it comes to vaping, one of the first places to start is by not running with some whole food extraction where there are likely hundreds to thousands of indefinitely characterized molecules that are going to interact who knows how in the vaping process or sitting on a shelf for months. This is already the case when using commercial flavorings, but you're cutting down the number of molecules to worry about by a huge margin.

I'll take my chances any day with non intentionally diketone (or precursor) containing commercial flavorings over some all natural extract made by a vendor who is either themselves deluded enough to buy into the "natural = safe" fallacy or, worse, is exploiting that consumer niche.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hello people,

Ok, here is an update. I was about to run out of juice 2 days ago, and about 5 days ago i had seen a vape shop near by. So i took the chance and went there. Spoke with the guy there and gave me a lot of testing to do from vaping on pen style vw, to dripper tasting madness.
Yeap, he passed me a dripper, oh boy that was 100% fulfilling in 3 puffs.

Ok so i finaly made my mind and bought 2 of the best i tested.(wanted more but the guy said to stick with these first and its a good time stock)

So, we spoke on devices, i am still getting the Smok X Cube II.
But, what batteries do i need for best results and no explosions, leaking, fire etc?
I've got kids in the house, i cant just charge my batteries just like that. I dont want my kids to get hurt or inhale fumes or what so ever from the batteries.

I was thinking on getting the VCT4 from samsung?? But i am not sure if these will be ok to withstand stress from the mod and be safe on charging.
BTW i am looking for a charger as well, nitecore seems to have good reviews and very little bad stuff going on. Will the nitecore d4 charge the same as i4? I4 is cheaper and does not have the fancy display thing.

Which ones to get? Will the fire bag help on fumes etc or is it only protection for fire??

BTW i dropped the idea on getting the TFV4, ill wait until TFV4 mini comes out. Then decide which one of these two to get.
FYI i found x cube 2 + kanger subtank mini + nitecore d4 + 2 samsung vct4 for 138$ with free shipping from vaporizersdistributor.com ! Good idea?????

Thanks,
the metalhead.