Several Thousand Degrees?

[nclobo]

Doctor: E-cigarretes don't help smokers kick habit :: WRAL.com

In spite of that popularity, Goldstein said he's concerned about long-term effects of nicotine mixed with the hot vapor.

"It could be several thousand degrees when it hits your lungs," he said. "We know there are short-term adverse pulmonary respiratory effects."

This is one of the most ludicrous articles I've read attacking e-cigs. More BP damage control in response to the FDA request for comments on NRT use?

UNC's Nicotine Dependence Program has received unrestricted educational grant funds from Pfizer. Follow the money.

Also, spelling "e-cigarretes" is not my own.

 

[iceman68]

Follow the money is right. Guess who makes Chantix - Pfizer.

 

[JimCal]

Several thousand degrees? Ummm, wouldn't that render your lungs completely useless after one puff? They'd be burned to a crisp!

 

[Tianara]

Useless? They'd be gone. At several thousand degrees you would be completely vaporized. How that man can go to sleep at night knowing he's condemning innocent, uninformed people to the dangers of chantix just to make a few bucks is beyond me.

 

[glasseye]

Well, that would certainly be short term pulmonary respiratory effects. Very short term.
It's too bad that some people have the brains to go through medical school, yet have the common sense and morals of a rock.

 

[Vocalek]

I sent the station an email. One thing I pointed out was Health New Zealand's report: "...the low operating temperature (54°C) of the atomiser - 5 to 10% of the temperature of a burning cigarette - suggests e-cigarettes as a class are unlikely to emit cigarette toxicants in their mist." I also offered to supply them with a huge list of research articles on e-cigarettes....

 

[2coils]

Just when I thought we were moving past these articles, we get this junk! Great comments tho. We have to keep teaching in the comments area as someone will actually believe this nonsense. I tried to convince a FB friend to try an e-cig as she was trying to quit smoking. One of her friends (who is a nurse) told her.....oh no!! dont use those things. People come into the hospital all the time with pneumonia after using them. You have to be kidding me. No wonder our Health Care system is so screwed up.

 

[Spazmelda]

Bwah! Comments are closed now, or I'd post about how I use my ecig to smelt metal. It's like being a fire bathing dragon! Very handy for starting campfires as well.

 

[nclobo]

Update:

Editor's Note: Many WRAL viewers have questioned the assertion by Adam Goldstein, director of UNC's Nicotine Dependence Program, that inhaled vapor from electronic cigarettes "could be several thousand degrees when it hits your lungs."

Goldstein's office replied: "We can’t find any citations about the temperature of the vapor specifically, but there is concern about the pulmonary respiratory effects of the vapor itself."

Basically, an admission that NO research was done prior to making that claim. I'm starting to question the validity of the good Doctor.

 

[Petrodus]

Just when I thought we were moving past these articles, we get this junk! Great comments tho. We have to keep teaching in the comments area as someone will actually believe this nonsense. I tried to convince a FB friend to try an e-cig as she was trying to quit smoking. One of her friends (who is a nurse) told her.....oh no!! dont use those things. People come into the hospital all the time with pneumonia after using them. You have to be kidding me. No wonder our Health Care system is so screwed up.

You think the health care system is screwed up now ...
Wait till the bureaucrats under Obama Care start calling the shots.

Before anyone on the left start to take offense
let me say ...
We are ALL under Obama Care regulations .... like it or not.

 

[AgentAnia]

You think the health care system is screwed up now ...
Wait till the bureaucrats under Obama Care start calling the shots.

As far as I'm concerned, our health care system got screwed up when the insurance companies started making our health care decisions, and it's gone downhill from there.

 

[Vocalek]

Update:



Basically, an admission that NO research was done prior to making that claim. I'm starting to question the validity of the good Doctor.

"Starting to?"

BTW: I sent the editor a link to the HNZ report that includes this: "However the low operating temperature (54°C) of the atomiser - 5 to 10% of the temperature of a burning cigarette - suggests e-cigarettes as a class are unlikely to emit cigarette toxicants in their mist."

www.healthnz.co.nz/DublinEcigBenchtopHandout.pdf‎

 

[Petrodus]

As far as I'm concerned, our health care system got screwed up when the insurance companies started making our health care decisions, and it's gone downhill from there.

Well ...
We are all about to find out if the bureaucrats do a better job.

 

[PONKAW]

Reminds of the turn of the 20th century Buggy makers (anti automobile) that claimed the human body could not withstand speeds over 25 miles an hour for extended periods.

 

[AgentAnia]

Well ...
We are all about to find out if the bureaucrats do a better job.

Yeah, I'm holding my breath on that one...

 

[AgentAnia]

So the editor passed the buck to Goldstein's office, the translation of whose reply is a variation of that well-beloved ANTZ stance: "We're ignoring existing studies, we lied, but nevertheless, electronic cigarettes are evilevilevil!" It's really getting quite tiresome...

 

[Vocalek]

Reminds of the turn of the 20th century Buggy makers (anti automobile) that claimed the human body could not withstand speeds over 25 miles an hour for extended periods.

I can see them now, with the skin of their faces stretched back to their ears, teeth clenched together, like that scene from Total Recall.

Arnold Gets Martian Air in Total Recall - YouTube

 

[Petrodus]

I guess it would be Politically Incorrect to say
a lot of their promises about Obama Care
are archived on YouTubes

 

[nclobo]

"Starting to?"

Yes ... well, I was being sarcastic. I think Doctors like Goldstein should not be allowed to advise on anything due to the obvious bias.

And thanks for sending that link to the editor! I wonder if it will be passed on to Goldstein's office? You could charge a consulting fee for doing the research they should have done to begin with.

 

[RosaJ]

Well, that would certainly be short term pulmonary respiratory effects. Very short term.
It's too bad that some people have the brains to go through medical school, yet have the common sense and morals of a rock.

They probably got their medical degrees from University of Phoenix online classes.