Sew, I've tried using an IGO-W in two different configs. I don't like it...

[toddrhodes]

No idea what I'm doing wrong here. I've built several coils for my KFL clone and they've all been great. I'm using 30 awg kanthal and organic cotton wicks. Enter the IGO-W. I first tried with a simple 2 ohm microcoil, 1/16th drillbit and all that and made a nice fitting wick for it. The flavor was pretty good, better than with most mods but almost *too* good, if that makes sense. I was getting almost no vapor though, yet it was a pretty tight draw with the stock airholes. Not sure how people plug one stock hole on these, it'd be a really tough draw. So tonight I tried my hand at my first dual coil. I used a 4mm machine screw, 10 wraps for both coils. Somehow I nailed a 1.5 ohm setup on my first try. This is important because nothing I own will go below 1.5 ohm. So I made two wicks that were honestly some of the best I've made. They wick crazy fast and aren't too tight in the coil. So I start firing it and I'm noticing it takes a bit for both coils to really get going? I popped it a few more times, put the cap on and put my drip tip in, ready for vaping heaven. juice I used is Want2Vape RY4, if that matters.

Ugh. It's like getting hit by a bus and then a steamroller right behind it. Huge throat hit, giant flavor, but it tastes... I don't even know how to describe it. It doesn't taste good. Also, little to no vapor for the most part. If I pipe it for 4-5 seconds it does ok, but absolutely nothing like my KFL clone. So I have no idea what I may have done wrong here, maybe it's just not my cup of tea. It's why I started with a cheap dripper to begin with. Is this commonplace for drippers? I have some KP dripping atomizers and those things rock. Great, full flavor but not overpowering. This thing is something else, I really don't even know how to describe it. The draw was pretty tight so I opened up both airholes with a 1/16 bit and I think I went too far. It is so airy now it's like I'm sucking on a piece of PVC pipe. I can cover one hole and it's fine. But yea, I'm going to try and get used to it but oof, not what I was expecting. I can load up a pic of the setup if that would help.

Ok, I'm done rambling. Just looking for someone to confirm this is how RBD's work and if I don't like it, just move on to something else

Thanks!
Todd

 

[Stosh]

I feel your pain...bought an IGO-W myself. Tried different coils, many different resistance and size, wicked with silica, cotton, ekowool and all we just OK at best, unvapable at worst. It sat neglected for a long time

I had a 5.0 ohm pre-wound silica coil, I had received gratis with something I bought sometime. I threw that in and firing it at 6.0 volts gives me a vape comparable to an old fashioned "high-V" 510 atty, nothing special. Next rebuild I need to do I'm aiming for a standard size and shape coil, at about 4.0 - 5.0 ohms. Not in any hurry, I don't use the IGO very regularly, mostly as an easy to clean tester atty for DIY juice mixing.

 

[InTheShade]

If you are getting harshness with little vapor, it suggests an air-flow problem. Make sure your holes are lined up with your coils.

I use an Igo-l (single coil mostly), but if the airhole is just a tiny bit off, it actually hurts.

I know you said you drilled out the airholes, but in my (limited) experience, all harshness and little vapor is almost always because the air isn't flowing correctly around the coils.

You should be getting a dense vapor with excellent flavor but with more of a throat hit than you would get using a carto or clearo. But certainly no take-your-breath-away harshness.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

No idea what I'm doing wrong here. I've built several coils for my KFL clone and they've all been great. I'm using 30 awg kanthal and organic cotton wicks. Enter the IGO-W. I first tried with a simple 2 ohm microcoil, 1/16th drillbit and all that and made a nice fitting wick for it. The flavor was pretty good, better than with most mods but almost *too* good, if that makes sense. I was getting almost no vapor though, yet it was a pretty tight draw with the stock airholes. Not sure how people plug one stock hole on these, it'd be a really tough draw. So tonight I tried my hand at my first dual coil. I used a 4mm machine screw, 10 wraps for both coils. Somehow I nailed a 1.5 ohm setup on my first try. This is important because nothing I own will go below 1.5 ohm. So I made two wicks that were honestly some of the best I've made. They wick crazy fast and aren't too tight in the coil. So I start firing it and I'm noticing it takes a bit for both coils to really get going? I popped it a few more times, put the cap on and put my drip tip in, ready for vaping heaven. Juice I used is Want2Vape RY4, if that matters.

Ugh. It's like getting hit by a bus and then a steamroller right behind it. Huge throat hit, giant flavor, but it tastes... I don't even know how to describe it. It doesn't taste good. Also, little to no vapor for the most part. If I pipe it for 4-5 seconds it does ok, but absolutely nothing like my KFL clone. So I have no idea what I may have done wrong here, maybe it's just not my cup of tea. It's why I started with a cheap dripper to begin with. Is this commonplace for drippers? I have some KP dripping atomizers and those things rock. Great, full flavor but not overpowering. This thing is something else, I really don't even know how to describe it. The draw was pretty tight so I opened up both airholes with a 1/16 bit and I think I went too far. It is so airy now it's like I'm sucking on a piece of PVC pipe. I can cover one hole and it's fine. But yea, I'm going to try and get used to it but oof, not what I was expecting. I can load up a pic of the setup if that would help.

Ok, I'm done rambling. Just looking for someone to confirm this is how RBD's work and if I don't like it, just move on to something else

Thanks!
Todd

Your IGO-w came stock with 2 air-holes or did you buy a different cap?

Are you positive you have proper airhole alignment on both coils? I mean dead centered on the coils both vertically and horizontally?

Hole alignment/airflow can make or break a dripper.

Try wrapping a micro or at least a smaller diameter coil (for the ghetto builder, a piece of spaghetti is right about 2mm) and wick it with cotton.

I feel your pain...bought an IGO-W myself. Tried different coils, many different resistance and size, wicked with silica, cotton, ekowool and all we just OK at best, unvapable at worst. It sat neglected for a long time

I had a 5.0 ohm pre-wound silica coil, I had received gratis with something I bought sometime. I threw that in and firing it at 6.0 volts gives me a vape comparable to an old fashioned "high-V" 510 atty, nothing special. Next rebuild I need to do I'm aiming for a standard size and shape coil, at about 4.0 - 5.0 ohms. Not in any hurry, I don't use the IGO very regularly, mostly as an easy to clean tester atty for DIY juice mixing.

Why the insanely high resistances if i may ask?

 

[Stosh]

....Why the insanely high resistances if i may ask?

No insanity......gives me many coils, lots of wire length touching the wick and at a high enough voltage will produce a nice thick, flavorful vapor...

 

[Vaslovik]

I recently got an IGO-W myself, and even after boring out the air holes and rebuilding it several times I'm not happy with it as an atty, but then I'm used to RBA's, which I've been rebuilding quite successfully for a good while. I guess I wondered why so many of the strident dripping religionists on here were so zealous about drippers. I'm still wondering.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

I recently got an IGO-W myself, and even after boring out the air holes and rebuilding it several times I'm not happy with it as an atty, but then I'm used to RBA's, which I've been rebuilding quite successfully for a good while. I guess I wondered why so many of the strident dripping religionists on here were so zealous about drippers. I'm still wondering.

Because when they're set up properly they're quite hard to beat in regards to flavor and vapor production.

 

[AttyPops]

I'm vaping an IGO-W right now, but it's a single coil setup. 30 ga. About 1.9 ohms at around 5 v. Single air hole. Working fine.

Mess with it.

What voltage were you using? Two 3.0 ohm coils would end up being 1.5 ohms. So you'd at least need enough voltage to fire 3.0 ohm coils....amps doubled due to dual coils.

And 30 ga wire is thicker than the stock coil 34 ga wire so it may take even more watts.

5 volts at 1.5 ohms is 16.7 watts....what is your device's watt limit?

 

[niczgreat]

I love my Igo W

I had both holes drilled.

I was lazy and had it built for me.
3-2 or 4-3 wrap [Can't remember] of flat Kanthal .8 on EkoWool 4mm with a slug build.
at around .47Ohms

The Slug Build works great on this RBA because it has a slight well on the bottom and the slug soaks the excess juice up.
BTW a Slug Build is when you make the wick double the length then you wrap 1/2 and fold the other end down under, because the
bottom end of the coil is in contact it makes for a cooler vape.

I'm going on two weeks with this build and enjoying it.

 

[toddrhodes]

I should have updated this but it was already on like page 3, surprised anyone bumped, this forum moves quickly There happened to be another thread of a kinda-similar issue so I basically threadjacked it since it had some discussion in it, my apologies to the OP of that post

The conclusion? As stated here, airhole alignment:

Hole on each side by each coil?

I knew it was going to be something simple. That does it I think. Flavor is toned down, and I shouldn't say it has "too much" flavor. It's the ratio of vapor, TH, and flavor that is way out of whack with the airholes not aligned properly. Tons of flavor and TH but no vapor, so inhaling is like inhaling straight juice, if that makes sense. Now with it turned around, it still hits like a truck (harder than any other topper I've tried so far) but it's more on par with the rest in terms of getting all three components just right. Thanks Sthur! I'll keep at it

To the person who asked if I had a different cap with two airholes in it, I think you might be thinking of the IGO-L? The W has three posts and two airholes stock.

I played around with it more after positioning the cap correctly and holy crap, this thing is pretty unreal. It's still a little "too much" for me but as I got used to it, it creates huge plumes of vapor and it seems to work best for a lung-hitter. I generally don't do that but it wasn't so bad. I really appreciate the help of this forum, I no longer consider my $14 wasted!

Todd

 

[cramptholomew]

Drill out the air holes to 1/16". It'll kick your @$$. In a good way. I drilled out both of mine, and tapped them to fit a tiny screw from an old Macbook Pro. That way I can run single or dual coils with my preferred air flow.

 

[toddrhodes]

I did drill mine out to 1/16th, thought I ruined it Good call on tapping the one side, I can do that! I was actually wondering what a good way of blocking one would be. I'm at 1.5 ohm, two 4mm coils with cotton wicks. It kicks harder than anything I've tried so far. Overall, I still like my KFL clone better, but that's because I am still more of a mouth to lung hitter, asthma and all that.

 

[JulesXsmokr]

If you feel like your air flow is too much, you can use a skinnier i/s diametered drip tip, I use one of them 2" long S.S. looks kinda flared at each end.. Think I got it from 101 vapes. That will help there..
The longer your coils the longer are wound, the longer it will take them to get hot and glow, but they stay warmer longer also.....
I've been steadily on a diet of 28g. kanthal - 1/16" i/s diameter micro coil builds -usually from .8 to 1.0 ohms - even a bit less is good for my mechanical and a strong AW 18650 battery.- keep the the coil off the floor a little bit - barely 1/8" - -- short pc./ of cotton sticking out 1 side and about straight down, and a longer out the other end and around the post and along the edge of the well to near the outer post.
that 1/16" hole you have (1.5mm.) is great, I plug the other for single coil use, I sanded the i/s slightly and put a drop of crazy glue on the hole to plug it.
It's nice pleasant and monstrous vape. (for me at least). - just trying to help, RDA's are the king of vape..

 

[toddrhodes]

Great tips, Jules, thank you! I don't have a plethora of drip tips at my disposal at this point, too busy buying other stuff I want to try. I will keep that in mind though.

I'm using 30g kanthal at present but I think the stuff I got (don't even remember the supplier) isn't great so I may change that out to 28g here soon. It seems very brittle for Kanthal wire, if that makes sense. I've had the legs just barely tightened, just enough to position the coil on the deck and they'll break off with no warning and I have to wrap a new one. I only have regulated mods for now but will have a starter Mech (Smok bronze Magnum) soon. I keep eyeing the Atmizoo Rollers in the classis and barely have enough will power to resist... I also have bigger batteries on the way as well, and a kick2.

As far as the wick goes, I'd have not thought of that method. In my KFL clone it is best to do a loose-fitting symmetrical cotton wick, just based on the area I'm working in. I applied that same logic to the RBD as well. I love tinkering so I'll give that new suggestion a try as soon as I get back in town from a quick trip out west.

Thanks again for the tips!

 

[vjc0628]

I have 4 Igo-L's

my build is usually 5 wraps 30 gage with doubles over either 2 mm elkwool or 3mm silica= 1.5 ohm's
excellent vapor and the best flavor with want2 vape ry4 I do push the volt's up a little higher to 4.2-4.6 volt's

the worst thing I've done with my first one is drill the hole to 1/16"
that while it crated more vapor the flav went down 30%

but the biggest thing is make sure the hole aligns with the coil if its a little off
your vapor will greatly decrease

also the higher the coil will increase throat hit and could decrease flavor and or vapor

 

[cramptholomew]

I twist my 30g kanthal. Take about a 4' length. Fold in half. Chuck an allen wrench in a drill. Loop the folded part of the wire onto the allen wrench. Clamp the other end(s) into some vise-grips, or hold with pliers. Spin the drill until the wire is VERY tightly wound, or until it breaks off at the allen wrench.

Twisted wire works great in the IGO-W. It helps the screws hold onto it.

 

[Sucker_dad]

I've got a question about the IGO-L. I am using 32 g kanthal 8wraps on a 1/16th bit hitting about 2.3/ 2.4 ohms currently I have the coil slightly higher than the screw heads of the posts a little above the air hole. Should I push it down lower than the air hole? I saw someone post that they get it really low. That may be why the throat Hit is a little much. Flavor is fine and getting plenty of vapor but it can be a tad harsh.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

I've got a question about the IGO-L. I am using 32 g kanthal 8wraps on a 1/16th bit hitting about 2.3/ 2.4 ohms currently I have the coil slightly higher than the screw heads of the posts a little above the air hole. Should I push it down lower than the air hole? I saw someone post that they get it really low. That may be why the throat Hit is a little much. Flavor is fine and getting plenty of vapor but it can be a tad harsh.

I seem to get the best results by getting the coil as low and close to the airhole as possible without risking coil touching cap, obviously don't push it down below the airhole.

If you've got long enough leads from the posts, just push the whole coil down till its at the same level as the airhole and see what kinda results you get. Should be quite a bit smoother.

 

[Sucker_dad]

I seem to get the best results by getting the coil as low and close to the airhole as possible without risking coil touching cap, obviously don't push it down below the airhole.

If you've got long enough leads from the posts, just push the whole coil down till its at the same level as the airhole and see what kinda results you get. Should be quite a bit smoother.

Yes I did that it did help. I do need longer legs to get it a little closer to the air hole. I'll do that on the next build.

OK, after I responded I took my tweezers and pulled the coil out till it was closer to the hole. I got it about as close as I could without shorting the thing. Really great flavor and better throat hit

 

[AttyPops]

My coils sit on the bottom base (with something under them for wicking) or slightly above. So the juice flows around the bottom. The air hole is just above or maybe level with the wick/coil.

Sounds like you're worried about it shorting on the base and you're floating the coil. A cotton "diaper" on the base can help. Once that coil is oxidized well, it doesn't short. It tends to float just above the base. That's not to say you should jam it down on the base... And if you have a mech, you may want extra precautions. I'm using something with short protection.