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englishmick

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I still just shake the heck out of my juice and set it out to steep. I'm so far ahead of the game in juices that I'm still vaping on juices that I mixed 6 months or more ago.

Me too. Shake the bottle a few times and put it at the back of the steeping shelf. I give the bottles a shake occasionally along the way. I used to fuss around with UC and a crock pot when I was experimenting with flavors but now I just use a handful of flavors and make it ahead of time.

Never did try mixers.

I just set up a coworker who wanted to start vaping. Gave her a PT mini and a bottle of 20mg unflavored to get started. She did OK for a week, but now she wants to try some tobacco flavor. I don't use that any more because my wife doesn't like the second hand aroma so I had to make some. I know it takes a long time to steep so I dug out the UC. Haven't done that for a year or more. I shook it for a couple of days, as soon as the bubbles went away I shook it again. Then gave it four 30 minute blasts in the UC yesterday. Today I tried some, it seems to already be getting there. Just black honey tobacco with some vanilla and sweet cream. I should make another bottle and let it steep naturally and see if the end result is different.
 

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I am still interested in this topic I am trying to get started in the world of DIY juice and this has opened my eyes to so many different ways to mix I remember back in June I saw a video on youtube of a guy using a mixer some one made for him out of 3D printed parts and it was a scaled down paint shaker, and that looked cool but since this topic started I have looked at a few more videos and seen everything from Vortex mixers, to some guy strapping bottles to a Sawzall (creative I'll give him that) even seen some people using ultrasonic jewelry cleaners to mix (89 bucks is not something I am willing to drop at least not right now) I have even wondered would it be better when shake mixing to put a ball bearing in the bottle.

To me, it seems that if you are mixing higher vg then you may want to look into using something other than just shaking but shaking is just fine. At least I that is how I took the few replies from people who use Vortex mixers or the electric mixer. Adding in such mixers would also mean adding in bowls, or beakers to mix in as you could not do this in a bottle so more stuff to keep track of also seems to be a down side for me.

Cheaper ultrasonic cleaners are available. Ebay has several ultrasonic cleaners starting at $14.99. If I put hot water in my cheap Harbor Freight UC, the water gets hotter with repeated 5 minute cycles. If it will make ripples in the water it will steep juice.

I have one of the cheap Harbor Freight UC's (no longer in their web page) that works well with water and 91% alcohol to get all the machine oil out of a new atomizer. I haven't used it to steep juice, though. I just set new bottles aside and shake daily for the first week and then wait. By the time I need those they are steeped a couple of months.
 

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I mix it in 60 ml bottles and shake it up. Then let them sit a couple hours with the top off. I then stick them in a container that keeps light out. I then shake the bottles once a day for two or three days until the liquid is full of small bubbles. Then it just sits and ages for 3 weeks to two months depending on what the flavoring is. Seems to work well.

Don't think you need any fancy stirrers
 

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With high Vg mixes I find the Brevil Bar Mix on a low speed setting does a good job. Ok it aearrates the juice ang it goes a milky colour but o/night it goes clear. I also have a magnetic mixer with a hotplate & Thermometer if I am doing 70vg & 30 pg I will warm the mix to 40C. if using the MAG mixer.

UC devices I found work fine with some flavors but some like strawberry for instance tend to loose their flavor if done with UC device.
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With high Vg mixes I find the Brevil Bar Mix on a low speed setting does a good job. Ok it aearrates the juice ang it goes a milky colour but o/night it goes clear. I also have a magnetic mixer with a hotplate & Thermometer if I am doing 70vg & 30 pg I will warm the mix to 40C. if using the MAG mixer.

UC devices I found work fine with some flavors but some like strawberry for instance tend to loose their flavor if done with UC device.
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I'd love an ultrasonic cleaner, looked on Amazon and they are quite expensive.... I'll have to check out Harbor freight, as sometimes, I really dislike being patient. With that said, I use max VG and I still find that shaking and steeping (top off sometimes) works fine, it just takes time.... :)

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Someone on this forum (sorry for my poor memory) recommended this little mini mixer. Love it. The wand fits perfect and takes less than a minute to mix well. I'm not worried about adding air as I'm sure shaking by hand does as well. I like to keep it simple.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000...mini+mixer&dpPl=1&dpID=31NgD8Sx1pL&ref=plSrch

How many of the attachments will fit the 1/2" ID top of a 2oz Boston Rounds bottle?

From the pictures it looks like the straight attachment may be the only one, but the information available doesn't disclose the measurements of the attachments.
 

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Anyone using this mixer for small bottles? I like to mix into 60ml glass Boston Rounds. The top is about 1/2" ID. The mixer below is cheap, but has one attachment that might fit a small bottle. Answered questions on Amazon say the the minimum bottle opening is .43" so it looks like a possibility.

https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-B...-fkmr0&keywords=hand+stirrer+small+bottle#Ask
That looks like the same one I ordered - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BROV02/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It will fit into my 30ml glass dropper bottles and if I angle it a bit I can make it fit into the couple of 15ml glass dropper bottles I have. I have used it to mix up to 220ml but it has to work pretty hard with that much juice at 70vg so I mostly mix 100 - 120ml batches anymore.
 

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How many of the attachments will fit the 1/2" ID top of a 2oz Boston Rounds bottle?

From the pictures it looks like the straight attachment may be the only one, but the information available doesn't disclose the measurements of the attachments.
I got this for my bullet proof coffee mixing. The 2nd/metal attachment is much larger than the badger, doubt it could be used in a 60ml bottle. The 3rd skinny plastic attachment would probably be the only one to use in a small necked bottle.
 

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Anyone using this mixer for small bottles? I like to mix into 60ml glass Boston Rounds. The top is about 1/2" ID. The mixer below is cheap, but has one attachment that might fit a small bottle. Answered questions on Amazon say the the minimum bottle opening is .43" so it looks like a possibility.

https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-B...-fkmr0&keywords=hand+stirrer+small+bottle#Ask
Hey Dave,
I have the Badger 121; though I bought it from here: RC Planet. The product+shipping price beat Amazon (I am not a Prime member).

I just put my digital calipers on the mixing blade, and it measures 10.90mm or 0.429in, at its widest point (tip-to-tip). The only bottle necks it does not fit for me are the narrow unicorn bottles.

I chose the Badger mixer because it was made for mixing oil-based modelling paints, which are both viscus (thick) and can't have a lot of air bubbles introduced (it hurts the finish of the paint. In my opinion, as fare as hand mixers go, this is as close to the action of a magnetic stirrer as you are likely to find.

The one downside (to me) that I have found, is it prefers narrower bottles. If you mix in wider containers (such as beakers) you have to do a fair amount of stirring (swizzling the blade around in the beaker) in order to get a thorough mix. This is not the fault of the mixer; remember that it was designed for mixing small bottles of paints like the little Tester's cubes. It does fine in 15, 30, and even 60mL dropper, and Boston round bottles; but 100, 150mL beakers require some manual stirring to help it along.

As for the Norpro mixer; I have read many favorable comments about the straight split "stick" fitting small necks. The others are probably going to only be useful in larger containers (such as beakers).

I suppose, if you were willing to risk the potentially ruining any of the other attachments, you could try modifying at least two of them. With the two prong attachment; you could file the tips back (shorter) so they could squeeze together more tightly and thereby fit in a smaller opening. And similarly with the metal whisk; snip the wires at the bottom, near center (allowing the sides to be squeezed together), and then continue snipping/removing wire until it fits your desired openings. (note: if you decide to try this with the whisk, I would strongly recommend not running this with the motor, unless it is in a bottle/container with steep sides, as I fear the inertia will put too much stress where the wires are trapped by the plastic) Here's a picture to try and help convey what I mean:
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I honestly have NO idea, if doing either of these modifications, would give you any advantage over the spit straight stick; which as I understand it, will flare open as it spins.
 

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How many of the attachments will fit the 1/2" ID top of a 2oz Boston Rounds bottle?

From the pictures it looks like the straight attachment may be the only one, but the information available doesn't disclose the measurements of the attachments.

The only one I use is the straight split one. It goes in the tiniest of bottles and fans out while spinning. I just give it a quick stir and done. The other split attachment with the hooks does fit in the 2 oz boston round and fans out. It won't go to the bottom of the bottle. The 2 metal ones do not fit
 

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Lol.. have to admit it's funny!
See my edited last post.;)

It's funny now... it's absolutely hysterical when the friction between the blade and plastic bottle melts/rubbs a hole in the bottle and he sprays e-liquid all over his Mom's living room furniture. :laugh:
 
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It seems people seem to have any and all opinions for steeping. From heat to stir to shake with caps on or caps off and daily, hourly, and everything in between. I think it's kinda crazy but to each his/her own. Anyway I just keep two 60ml bottles in rotation. When one is done I make another bottle and then vape from the other one. So by the time I finish one bottle, the last bottle is steeped and ready to go. Hope that made sense because it doesn't sound like it simple a concept as it is. Anyway to answer the original poster's question I just shake a couple times a day, usually when I'm refilling my tank. With caps on so it don't spill, and in the couple weeks it takes me to go through 60mls, the other bottle is steeped and delicious. I don't think you need to go through all the processes some do but if they feel it works for them then who am I to disagree.
 
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