Shake, Shake, Shake Your Juices!

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Hey Mann! Yea, I shake the crap out of mine. Always have. So I have no idea if it makes a difference for me. Lol. However, I do not use tanks anymore, so cannot help with that either. Oh yea, and I think I have given up on atty's my friend. Lol. WTH! haha. I just can't do it. So aggravating in a way! Lol!

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I shake first before filling and they while vaping I tilt my ecig up and down, rotating etc. I use VG juices but realize that some of the vendors emphatically state that their flavors are PG based and so the actual juice won't be 100% VG and I seem to be OK with that. Some juices give me flushing, headaches, stuffy nose and allergy type symptoms with heart racing and just generally weird feelings and sensations. I suspect that there might be ingredients in the actual flavors causing it and not sure if it's just PG or what. I have ordered nic strengths ranging from 12 to 18mg so far. In addition, I have a bottle of 48mg VG nic juice to add a drop or two in case I'm thinking I need stronger nic to stop my cravings for an analog. Still haven't found the solution and might try the WTA that I've read about on here.
Back to the topic of this thread, I just realized that I don't always shake! When I'm in a hurry I forget and perhaps the nic is concentrated or something else has happened if you don't shake first, thus the "allergic" symptoms!! :facepalm:
 

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Well, if you are getting flushing, headaches, and heart racing issues, I would tend to think that was more of the issue with nic. Nicotine is a stimulant. I don't want to get into the whole WTA thing, but I had issues with some similar issues with feeling speedy and WTA practically solved that and more. I am not advocating for anything or promoting it, just responding with my thoughts.

As far as shaking your juices...I don't think that would be the cause of your particular problems, but I may be wrong. Try an all vg based liquid at a lower nic strength (Other than what you are using) and maybe, just maybe give WTA a shot. There are only two vendors offering it and you should be able to find out info on it pretty quickly.
 

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Aha! I was taste testing with some friends last night, dripped an "unshaken" bottle on the atty... tasted like nothing just blah... so i shook it up... dripped again and viola i could taste the flavor this time!! So me thinks shaking definitely has it's benefits :)

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What flavor and what vendor? I don't believe all juices need to be shaken, but if you read through this thread, a lot of quality vendors actually say that you should (with their liquid). It can't hurt, and it isn't like it takes anymore than a second, I mean, it's not a long drawn out process. I generally give a quick 1 and 2 count shake with small bottles, and with bigger bottles I shake 1, 2, 3 and 4. Who knows if that made any sense?:blink:
 

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What flavor and what vendor? I don't believe all juices need to be shaken, but if you read through this thread, a lot of quality vendors actually say that you should (with their liquid). It can't hurt, and it isn't like it takes anymore than a second, I mean, it's not a long drawn out process. I generally give a quick 1 and 2 count shake with small bottles, and with bigger bottles I shake 1, 2, 3 and 4. Who knows if that made any sense?:blink:

Im sorry im not sure which one it was... we tried soooo many juices that night from many vendors and these bottles have been sitting some of them for months untouched... i cant remember for the life of me which one it was????? Sorry :confused:

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I shake my juices. My Menthol juice especially needs a shake if it hasn't been done in a while. All my other juices seem to do OK without shaking. I also warm my juices (all are 80%vg-20%pg because of sensitivity) to help mix them together on cooler mornings when I refill. Either under warm running water or in my hand for a few...

My Cartzilla needs a shake every few hours if it isn't being used to mix it all back up too.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who shakes that Shtuff!!
 

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I have received two responses from two vendors about shaking and here is one of them from JB at Halo:

"Yes, we always recommend giving our products a light shake from time to time. This helps to meld the liquid again, particularly if the liquid has gotten cold in transit." JB (Johnny Blaze)

I am waiting for the next vendor to give me the okay to quote from him. The next answer will be slightly more complex due to it being an extracted tobacco.

p.s. Thanks JB for the email, and also thanks for the other words...;)
 

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Hey all, I think you should read this! Especially those of us that want to vape NETs (naturally extracted tobaccos), or for those of us who inquire about steeping. Donley from Want2Vape contacted me and wrote this in an email ...

To shake or not to shake, that is a good question.

Pros and cons to this, as with most things in life. And life (shelf that is) is the decision factor.

Many eliquids are created from dry based food grade flavorings which in high concentrations can precipitate back out of solution. Especially when mixed with a strong base like nicotine.
Other liquids which are created from extraction like our coffee , espresso and tobaccos, contain high levels of solids as well but are in suspension.
Which can never fully be removed through filtration (we high vac /press filter to less than 1 micron resulting in a total solids of <30ppm ).

So if a eliquid that is made in these manners, time can cause a them to have a layer of solids or a heavier specific gravity graduation to occur
And thusly need to be shaken to remix. (not necessarily recombine back into a solution) (that takes a bit of heat and long periods in a mixing environment like a heated magnetic lab mixer)
But, if you shake them you then cause the precipitant to be inter dispersed and when you fill a arty, cart or carto you now have these solids sticking to your coil. A good dose of Atty refresher helps flush these away between fillings/flavor changes (shameless plug, sorry)

Personally, decanting is the better method here in that situation. Leaving any solids behind and transfer to a new clean bottle.
But this is for juice that is previously aged.
For new fresh juices, a good mix n shake is a good idea even though the postman did a pretty good job already.
Also many believe that a fresh juice needs steeping. This truly has more to do with nicotine concentration than the flavor package. Nicotine creates a nitrogen Bond with the pg /vg/flavors that over the first few days tries to create a molecular equilibrium (which we all call steeping) and you notice that some start to change color. Especially any with vanalin . So high nic levels need more shaking and steep time.
This has been posted with the expressed written consent of Donley W. from Want2Vape

Thanks Donley!
 
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Hey all, I think you should read this! Especially those of us that want to vape NETs (naturally extracted tobaccos), or for those of us who inquire about steeping. Donley from Want2Vape contacted me and wrote this in an email ...

To shake or not to shake, that is a good question.

Pros and cons to this, as with most things in life. And life (shelf that is) is the decision factor.

Many eliquids are created from dry based food grade flavorings which in high concentrations can precipitate back out of solution. Especially when mixed with a strong base like nicotine.
Other liquids which are created from extraction like our coffee , espresso and tobaccos, contain high levels of solids as well but are in suspension.
Which can never fully be removed through filtration (we high vac /press filter to less than 1 micron resulting in a total solids of <30ppm ).

So if a eliquid that is made in these manners, time can cause a them to have a layer of solids or a heavier specific gravity graduation to occur
And thusly need to be shaken to remix. (not necessarily recombine back into a solution) (that takes a bit of heat and long periods in a mixing environment like a heated magnetic lab mixer)
But, if you shake them you then cause the precipitant to be inter dispersed and when you fill a arty, cart or carto you now have these solids sticking to your coil. A good dose of Atty refresher helps flush these away between fillings/flavor changes (shameless plug, sorry)

Personally, decanting is the better method here in that situation. Leaving any solids behind and transfer to a new clean bottle.
But this is for juice that is previously aged.
For new fresh juices, a good mix n shake is a good idea even though the postman did a pretty good job already.
Also many believe that a fresh juice needs steeping. This truly has more to do with nicotine concentration than the flavor package. Nicotine creates a nitrogen Bond with the pg /vg/flavors that over the first few days tries to create a molecular equilibrium (which we all call steeping) and you notice that some start to change color. Especially any with vanalin . So high nic levels need more shaking and steep time.
This has been posted with the expressed written consent of Donley W. from Want2Vape

Thanks Donley!

sooooo, i wonder if shaking is important. :confused: :laugh:
 

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Hey all, I think you should read this! Especially those of us that want to vape NETs (naturally extracted tobaccos), or for those of us who inquire about steeping. Donley from Want2Vape contacted me and wrote this in an email ...

To shake or not to shake, that is a good question.

Pros and cons to this, as with most things in life. And life (shelf that is) is the decision factor.

Many eliquids are created from dry based food grade flavorings which in high concentrations can precipitate back out of solution. Especially when mixed with a strong base like nicotine.
Other liquids which are created from extraction like our coffee , espresso and tobaccos, contain high levels of solids as well but are in suspension.
Which can never fully be removed through filtration (we high vac /press filter to less than 1 micron resulting in a total solids of <30ppm ).

So if a eliquid that is made in these manners, time can cause a them to have a layer of solids or a heavier specific gravity graduation to occur
And thusly need to be shaken to remix. (not necessarily recombine back into a solution) (that takes a bit of heat and long periods in a mixing environment like a heated magnetic lab mixer)
But, if you shake them you then cause the precipitant to be inter dispersed and when you fill a arty, cart or carto you now have these solids sticking to your coil. A good dose of Atty refresher helps flush these away between fillings/flavor changes (shameless plug, sorry)

Personally, decanting is the better method here in that situation. Leaving any solids behind and transfer to a new clean bottle.
But this is for juice that is previously aged.
For new fresh juices, a good mix n shake is a good idea even though the postman did a pretty good job already.
Also many believe that a fresh juice needs steeping. This truly has more to do with nicotine concentration than the flavor package. Nicotine creates a nitrogen Bond with the pg /vg/flavors that over the first few days tries to create a molecular equilibrium (which we all call steeping) and you notice that some start to change color. Especially any with vanalin . So high nic levels need more shaking and steep time.
This has been posted with the expressed written consent of Donley W. from Want2Vape

Thanks Donley!

Thanks for the info!
 

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Up until today I have never shaken my juices, never even occurred to me. I will from now on though!
I actually got here googling to see if juice can seperate. I figured that would explain why my new 30ml bottles of juice seem to have such super high throat hit, unshaken I essentially filled a clero with PG, that would explain the little to no vapor as well.
I've also noticed that when I get to the bottom of a bottle the peppery nic taste is much stronger.
 

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Actually, I have built an agitation system onto my tanks. It constantly agitates the juices on a timer! LOL

Seriously though, I just got through trying out 4 Halo flavors I got in today, and I made sure to shake the heck out of them all! The juices that are more blended flavors probably need it the most, but then again, they ALL need it......
 
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