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PittBoss

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hawkizefan:6318397 said:
Sorry...convictions was concoctions when I typed it...I really should proofread.

What special additives? tobacco absolute?

I liked the use of convictions anyway, lol. Umm they are 'molecules' that are used in tobacco liquids. Not 100% sure if they are supposed to be used in conjunction with WTA or TA, used on their own, or used with tobacco flavorings. They have certain characteristics that add distinction betwen tobaccos.

I also saw on the PA site, they have DK tobacco flavor..dunno if that would bring you close to DK Tab, but maybe with one of the molecules..
 

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hawkizefan:6318932 said:
Pa...perfumers apprentice? Would like to check out what you're talking about.

That is correct sir! I dont believe it is super or even highly concentrated..but the molecules sure are. After some reading around, it seems like 1-2 drops per 10ml was usually more then enough. I still plan on doing some more investigaing on em, but it looks like they could be a total win.
 

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hawkizefan:6319171 said:
Just looked. VERY interesting...like I need to obsess a little more. Going to do some reading up on these as they seem like they may be the missing link between a so-so diy and a great pro type juice.

Thanks for the info Pitt.

Thats what i was thinking when i saw those. I really like a lot of the standalones that i have made so far..buuut these might take em over the top!

No problem, glad i can actually be useful around here lol
 

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The one you may want to keep an eye on is Acetyl Pyrazine. Guess it's a big one used in Dekang liquids, namely TAB..Still trying to unearth some specifics, but most roads I stumble upon end up in a cul-de-sac..

Think ecx(might be vz) has that. Have heard/read others talking about it however.
It's kinda crazy...I'm very happy with my diy compared to the pro juice I was buying...but just can't leave well enough alone...gotta keep digging.
It's like 'i have a clown midget....you know what I really need is a tiny donkey'....lol...I'm sorry. The fact that grandpa actually breeds little brayers.is just priceless. I'm sorry...that's just damn funny.

Back to the topic at hand...for some reason (and I'm sure I'm wrong but to lazy to check) the pyrazine seems to stick in my mind in the "bread" genre...like I said ...could be(probably) wrong.

Damn pitt....your not just going ankle deep in this diy stuff...you knee deep already....cool.
Going to do a little reading on some of these...thanks for keeping it interesting.
 

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Damn it Pitt...here I was all nice and happy with my diy compared to the pro juice...and you just had to get my brain spinning on all of this. I have to tell you...I love you man, but I'm pretty sure my wife isn't going to feel the same way. I vowed that my buying sprees were nearly a thing of the past. I can't blame a transgendered midget and certainly not a tiny donkey..so who does that leave. Hmmm...

Ok...need to syart figuring out how to "launder" my insane habit. I'm open for a.y and all suggestions.
 

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Think ecx(might be vz) has that. Have heard/read others talking about it however.
It's kinda crazy...I'm very happy with my diy compared to the pro juice I was buying...but just can't leave well enough alone...gotta keep digging.
It's like 'i have a clown midget....you know what I really need is a tiny donkey'....lol...I'm sorry. The fact that grandpa actually breeds little brayers.is just priceless. I'm sorry...that's just damn funny.

Back to the topic at hand...for some reason (and I'm sure I'm wrong but to lazy to check) the pyrazine seems to stick in my mind in the "bread" genre...like I said ...could be(probably) wrong.

Damn pitt....your not just going ankle deep in this diy stuff...you knee deep already....cool.
Going to do a little reading on some of these...thanks for keeping it interesting.

For the record, it is not MY Grandpa that does that..not that it helps the heckling, but FWIW, lol. Yeah, I agree..really enjoying what I have and don't NEED to do more with it..buuuuuuut as long as there is room for improvement, I will continue to fiddle. Just wish there was some more definite answers to avoid a crap ton of trial and error that I see in my near future. Don't want my hand held, but a good foundation to work around would be ideal, lol.

ECX does have it too, I see..Gonna throw that in my cart and search for some more of these there. VZ is absent in A LOT of flavors, sans SCFs.

Seems you are not off at all in your thoughts!!

This note is found naturally in:
almond roasted almond
bread
cocoa
coffee
filbert
peanut
popcorn
potato chip
sesame oil

So there you have it..One molecule down, 27 or so left..now to actually start playing with combinations..

Hey I'm trying to collect all the info possible..not quite "deep" into anything just yet, lol..leave that alone.
 

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Also...where are you accessing all this info???

Resourcing! Lol, just following decent avenues and piecing together multiple sources in order to get a good search query or putting it all together in my head. There is little info around here for what I want, which doesn't really surprise me, so I had to piece a bunch together and go elsewhere..can't really explain where I ended up, just got there, honestly..kinda like a drunk drive home (which is a no-no people! lol)
 
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