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Tish Talons

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That link Klynnn posted is where I get my Spinner and my SLB Kgo kits. I keep my e-cig in my apron pocket while I work and I've never had any problems, accept occasionally my carto or nova unthreads itself. Never broken anything. They have great products and fast shipping. buy from them. Their prices are great as well. Can't really go wrong. Good luck.
 

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I was smoking for 34 years, the last 20 was a 2 pack a day plus. I knew I had to do something, the gasping for air, breathing heavy doing nothing and the chest pains. Me and my wife decided on a quit date. She opted for the patch and I took to vaping. I quit smoking cold turkey and went to vaping. I vaped 12-14mg and it was hell. I should have started higher. Neither my wife you I have taken a smoke since that day and now I am down to 0 nic. If I ever do decide to stop vaping, I will sell all my stuff except my mechanical set up, just in case. I will always have it with me if I need something to get me by. We all have a nicotine addiction and it always will be there.
 

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Thanks for the encouragement blaufisch!

Sure wish I hadn't got duped into the cig-a-like's... not once but twice...lol

I'm really doing a lot better now. I'm keeping my 2 per day for the time being, but I'm not struggling to do so or feeling really any symptoms now. Cigs still smell as good as momma's brownies to me, though. I wish I could hate the smell, but I'm afraid I never will. Every time it hits my nose, I'm like a cartoon character floating to it.

I just ordered an ego-v v2 just because it has the pass through. I'm expecting it to be the only battery I use once it arrives. Hoping to retire my twist clone, which I re-assembled today, as a back up. If I get the same issue of pulling apart with the V, I'll be done with ego styles.

Had to google the MKII. All the looking around I've done the last couple of months, and that one I have not seen. Nice looking rig, though.

Any advice on equipment that can survive a day of work or play in the pocket and not come out in pieces? I've had no luck so far other than the ego C kit, but I would like to carry around something with a little more punch than a regulated 3.3v.


Once you stop smoking and have been only vaping you will hate the smell.
 

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I'm 64 and had been a 'heavy' smoker (chain-smoking would be too mild a description) since I was in my early teens (perhaps pre-teens, can't remember due to chemo induced short/long-term mem loss) and was at over 2 packs a day when I quit (thanks to e-cigs) earlier this year.

Back when I started it was smoking anything that would fit inside a paper -- corn silk, oak leaves, whatever. If you were lucky you had an older friend/relative that would buy you a 10cent bag of tobacco and only charge you 50cents. The only other alternative was to steal one from your parents, since almost everybody smoked back in those days, and hope you didn't get caught...

Anyway, to make a long and arduous story a bit shorter, my wife says we saw a "Blu" e-cig ad on TV and that was what perked our (mainly 'my') interest. So, instead of doing any research (did I mention that the drugs I'm on also enhance impulsive behavior?) we trotted down to our local smoke shop to see what they had available. They had the normal array of disposables and we tried a couple of them, but found they just didn't last. So, a couple days later we ran back and looked at their reusable line(s) of e-cigs.

The proprietor, surprisingly, recommended Tsunami (an eGo based unit), but the wife wanted a cig look-a-like so we went with a No7s kit for two -- no a good decision. It used non-refillable carts which the Co only had one option available for refillable ones and they, I've since found, use a proprietary thread setup to prevent you from using OEM replacements. So then we picked up a Tsunami kit for 2 - which more closely met our needs. But, being impulsive as I've mentioned, I went ahead an also got an Apollo kit (for 2) online since it had larger batteries and, basically, looked cooler and, being bigger, fit my hand better. It was at that point that I, finally, started doing a little online research (since the prices available locally were outrageous and I knew I'd be able to find a better deal online) and found ECF among other online goodies.

Now, I think we're pretty well set as far as usability goes. Wife uses the Tsunami and I use the Apollo - both eGos with CE4 clearomizers for the time being. Have picked up a couple Kranger T3s but haven't used them yet. And, of course, am drooling over the VV style batts and thinking about getting into DIY juicing. Still real iffy on the DIY -- not sure if it would be economically worthwhile given all the little goodies out there that some of the recipes I've seen call for.

Anyway, to (finally) get to the quitting part -- got the Tsunami setup on the 8th of Jan (got the No7s on the 2nd, but I don't count that setup as a 'real' one) and had quit analogs within the first 5 days. Didn't even really notice I'd quit until the wife mentioned it to me. Guess I was just, after all those years, ready -- though using an e-cig is really just a substitute, but a worthwhile one since, even though you're still getting the nic, you're NOT getting all the other nasty stuff that goes along with smoking 'real' cigs.

Will I ever give vaping up completely? I doubt it, honestly. Too comforting to have the ritual available. The plan is to slowly cut the nic intake down over the upcoming months and, hopefully, by the end of the year be a 0 or close to it. That would make me a happy camper for sure and certain.

Now, the wife is a whole 'nother story. She just isn't at the point I was and desperate to quit smokes. But she is down to 5 or 6 a day from 2+ packs like I was at so I'll count that as a minor victory and not nag her about it. And, as for what it's worth, even with her still smoking those few a day I have no desire whatsoever to take a hit off hers. Just sit there vaping my Havana cigar blend, or whatever other mix I've got going, perfectly content with it...
 

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At about 1 month and 14 days I realized im not wanting cigarettes at all, what made me realize was on the 14th we went out to dinner and all that, my battery died an hour into the trip. I went threw the panic, but not for a cigarette but for my PV. The first thing that came to mind was where can I find a disposable e-cig. Went into a few stores, craving nicotine, and it didnt even cross my mind to buy a pack of analogs. I ended up sharing my SO PV and got threw the hours away from home. I did hold my PV a few times tho....
That was a huge brake threw for me. Even when I was doing the other NRTs when id run out or need a new one Id crave a cigarette.
SO really this is what you have to look forward to. The brain does change over from one way to another. Now that I have no MAOI's going into my body I want to see how long it takes for the brain not to need the PV (I expect it will take along time, if ever, just heard to many storys of people craving for a cig 20-30 years after they quit). But Ill will have to slowly reduce the amount of nicotine im taking in. Im already vaping less per day when I started I was at about 3 ml of 24mg now im at 1-2 ml of 24mg a day. Doing it slow and gradual so my body doesnt notice.
 

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Here's some tips that helped me, 3+ years ago:

Drop the cigs altogether - you're torturing yourself and if you're gonna have withdrawal best to get it over with. Some of it is chemical dependence, but as you're getting your nicotine a good bit is psychological habit. How?

*Vape like a fiend every time you want a cigarette. Chain vape and use high enough nicotine. You're literally replacing one habit with another; go for it and think happy, healthy thoughts.
*Find threads that you like in ECF and read them obsessively. Juice threads helped me slide the nic association from smoke to vapor flavors - you'll find that the nic reward reinforcement naturally slides that way, but it helps to encourage it. If you love gadgets and toys, read the modding pages, whatever.
*Invest. We stick to what we invest in. Reward yourself (withing your means) for your intelligent choice by buying interesting juices, equipment, pretty drip tips, whatever. Don't go broke but this is a time for a little encouraging self-indulgence. Watch for vape-mail with enthusiasm - you're reshaping a very stubborn set of reward-anticipatory responses. Be ridiculous. You can rein in later.
*Turn your mind from internal complaints and negativity to positive, proud, relieved, excited thoughts. Our minds create a lot of our experience of reality. Be brief and firm with the inner whiney 2 year old who really, really, really, puhLEEZE only wants one cigarette. Redirect him. :) Feel good about that, you're parenting yourself wisely. Positive thinking can sound cheesy and shallow but it's powerful stuff - mind mastery, really.
*Minimize any suffering. It's not nice when others do this, and they shouldn't, but if we couldn't do this ourselves we'd be pretty pathetic. The worst trap in overcoming any habit is internal drama and obsessive, hyperbolic fixation on fear and discomfort. And honestly, especially if you bag those coffin nails, it almost always and quickly becomes easier, and then no difficulty at all. A joy.
*Don't look back, except to create an aversion to the awfulness of smoking cigs. Create one, amplify the one you've got. Yuk, ugh, disgusting nasty things. Notice what's distasteful, don't gaze longingly at those smokey huddles standing in the rain at break. Bag that stuff.
*Vape, vape vape. It's perfectly OK to live to vape for a while - successful new vapers are so into it that no one can stand us but us. Have fun!

I smoked 3-4 packs a day for decades. And the usual spiel - nothing worked, mom died of lung CA, I kept smoking, wheezing and basically killing myself, discovered ecigs serendipitously, not one cigarette since and man, do I ever not miss 'em. Not one single brief pang for years; the thought makes me ill. And I feel wonderful, love vaping, so hang in there, and we're all with you, OK? :thumbs:
 
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Rusty S.

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Good morning!

I smoked about 1-1 1/2 PAD. I was intrigued by the Blu ads on TV over the holidays, and found ECF when I started Googling. Turns out Blu really sux, so I spent a few weeks trying to learn about e-cigs. It's TMI! I have a low rate of absorption of data, so it took ages for me to learn, and I still haven't picked up everything I need to know yet.

I settled on Apollo because they have a one-year warranty, and I'm unemployed, so I didn't have a ton of cash to throw around on trial-and-error. I bought Apollo's TGo setup and some juices from MadVapes. My total investment has been less than $100.

I've been vaping for a week. I set my limit at 6 analogs a day, but I haven't gotten up that high any day this week. I really enjoy vaping, and the nic level (16-18mg) really seems to scratch the itch.

Day before yesterday, I went all day without smoking and then yesterday I decided to have a cigarette with my husband over morning coffee. It turned out to be a big mistake - when I finished, my chest felt "gummy", and my solar plexus was achy, like someone had smacked it. I haven't gone through any withdrawal this week, but I sure felt crappy when I tried smoking again, and I went only 36 hours without a cigarette.

My husband still smokes, and isn't remotely interested in vaping. At first I smelled the cigarette smoke and ashtrays more prominently, but I've found that a great counter to that is using a strong-smelling vape. I put a splash of cinnamon e-juice into whatever's in my carto, and I don't smell the smoke as much. I don't want to become annoying and start harping on him about smoking, because I think if the tables were turned, that would really chap my ....

I never handled quitting well at all. I've done everything except the pills: cold turkey, hypnosis, the patch, gum, you name it, and I'd be lucky if I made it a week without feeling like a glass powder keg. I will never put myself through quitting smoking again, because it's emotionally painful for me. So, in my mind, I'm still very much a smoker, and I have no plans to quit; I'm just a smoker who hasn't had a cigarette because I really adore vaping. Now that I see smoking makes me feel crummy while vaping is fun, things might change in my mind, but in the meantime, I need to do whatever it takes to keep myself sane, so I don't mind playing with my own head on that point.

I like things better this week. I'm more smiley than I was, and I feel somewhat better physically, but I'm still downplaying the process and not trying to make a "thing" out of it. I'd rather it be more like Alice falling down the rabbit-hole and finding cool stuff along the way. Whatever gets you to Wonderland, right?

Oh, and another thing to consider about the sleeplessness - when I was treated for sleep apnea, one of the things that happened at the beginning of my treatment was I had disruption in my sleep, and I felt kind of out-of-it during waking hours. Turns out it wasn't a bad thing; my doctor explained that I was getting more oxygen, and once my body chemistry settled down, I'd have better nights. That rough period lasted for a couple of weeks, but six years later, I can vouch that she was right, and I'm better off for sticking with the treatment, rather than bailing because it was too hard. Maybe if you drink more water to flush out the chemicals and be patient while your body chemistry readjusts, you'll find that after a time things will settle down. I'm not a doctor, though, so take that with a grain of salt.

If you don't like sleeping aids, let me throw this at you - my husband has a rough time going to sleep sometimes, and he has a glass of milk and something carby to eat, like crackers or pretzels, before he brushes his teeth to get ready for bed, and he says that helps him go down. I never tried it, because I sleep like a brick, but that's the word I heard.

Anyway, that's the story. Have a foggy day! :vapor:
 

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That link Klynnn posted is where I get my Spinner and my SLB Kgo kits. I keep my e-cig in my apron pocket while I work and I've never had any problems, accept occasionally my carto or nova unthreads itself. Never broken anything. They have great products and fast shipping. Buy from them. Their prices are great as well. Can't really go wrong. Good luck.

Thanks for the links Klynn. I'll check them out next time I'm shopping around. Shopping is a good distraction, though an expensive one.

I work outdoors quite often, so I might be a little tougher on equipment than most. I'm also often in situations where I can't let my PV be seen, so I must leave it in my pocket and continue working even if I can tell it may be under some mild stress. If they made one as tough as a tape measure, I'd be the first to buy!

I know some will think being loud and proud about it would make it more accepted, but here, anything cylindrical with a mouthpiece is almost assured to make the wrong impression.
 

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I was smoking for 34 years, the last 20 was a 2 pack a day plus. I knew I had to do something, the gasping for air, breathing heavy doing nothing and the chest pains. Me and my wife decided on a quit date. She opted for the patch and I took to vaping. I quit smoking cold turkey and went to vaping. I vaped 12-14mg and it was hell. I should have started higher. Neither my wife you I have taken a smoke since that day and now I am down to 0 nic. If I ever do decide to stop vaping, I will sell all my stuff except my mechanical set up, just in case. I will always have it with me if I need something to get me by. We all have a nicotine addiction and it always will be there.

That same logic is why I keep a pack in my desk drawer at work. I don't even want to think about 0 nic, yet, but kudos for making it.
 

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Once you stop smoking and have been only vaping you will hate the smell.

I think it's about time, but tomorrow at lunch I wont.

Congrats Vernhall. I wish we had local guys like you speak of. Here you get blu or nothing. I've never seen an ego style on a store shelf. So far, it's been my experience that I'm better off not even speaking about smoking to my wife. If I ask her not to sit the ash tray where I can smell the smouldering ...., she gets defensive now. I'm not even going to attempt to convince her as it is completely counter productive. Quitting really has to be a personal choice.
 

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SO really this is what you have to look forward to. The brain does change over from one way to another. Now that I have no MAOI's going into my body I want to see how long it takes for the brain not to need the PV (I expect it will take along time, if ever, just heard to many storys of people craving for a cig 20-30 years after they quit). But Ill will have to slowly reduce the amount of nicotine im taking in. Im already vaping less per day when I started I was at about 3 ml of 24mg now im at 1-2 ml of 24mg a day. Doing it slow and gradual so my body doesnt notice.

I hope your right about what I have to look forward to. That comment regarding MOAI's makes me curious about your take on WTA juice. Any thought?
 

Joe51

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Good morning!

Good night, now! :)

Thanks for the advice. I've never handled quitting well either. Seems like nothing else is important except that you can't do what you NEED to do. It seems to me harm reduction was designed for people like us.

Agreed you shouldn't bug your husband. Good luck! and thanks for sharing!!!
 

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I was first introduced to E-cigs 2-3 years ago. It was one of those ciga-like products, costed me 40. I had so much fun with it but the fun did not went on for long. I vaped it like crazy and something the condensation would come out of the mouth piece so after a few weeks, i just stashed it away in my drawer. A few of my friends who doesn't even smoke got into vaping, we all went out on the 28 of last month and got an ego twist setup. The first week was hard as the idea of giving up analogs wasn't pleasing to me but i knew i should quit before it was too late. So in a couple of days it'll be a month that i had my ego twist. I rarely care or bother with analogs now, i do enjoy vaping but having the vaper's tongue is extremely frustrating. I just keep vaping anyway cause if i don't i know ill just go back to analogs.
 

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Here's some tips that helped me, 3+ years ago:

Drop the cigs altogether - you're torturing yourself and if you're gonna have withdrawal best to get it over with. Some of it is chemical dependence, but as you're getting your nicotine a good bit is psychological habit. How?

*Vape like a fiend every time you want a cigarette. Chain vape and use high enough nicotine. You're literally replacing one habit with another; go for it and think happy, healthy thoughts.
*Find threads that you like in ECF and read them obsessively. Juice threads helped me slide the nic association from smoke to vapor flavors - you'll find that the nic reward reinforcement naturally slides that way, but it helps to encourage it. If you love gadgets and toys, read the modding pages, whatever.
*Invest. We stick to what we invest in. Reward yourself (withing your means) for your intelligent choice by buying interesting juices, equipment, pretty drip tips, whatever. Don't go broke but this is a time for a little encouraging self-indulgence. Watch for vape-mail with enthusiasm - you're reshaping a very stubborn set of reward-anticipatory responses. Be ridiculous. You can rein in later.
*Turn your mind from internal complaints and negativity to positive, proud, relieved, excited thoughts. Our minds create a lot of our experience of reality. Be brief and firm with the inner whiney 2 year old who really, really, really, puhLEEZE only wants one cigarette. Redirect him. :) Feel good about that, you're parenting yourself wisely. Positive thinking can sound cheesy and shallow but it's powerful stuff - mind mastery, really.
*Minimize any suffering. It's not nice when others do this, and they shouldn't, but if we couldn't do this ourselves we'd be pretty pathetic. The worst trap in overcoming any habit is internal drama and obsessive, hyperbolic fixation on fear and discomfort. And honestly, especially if you bag those coffin nails, it almost always and quickly becomes easier, and then no difficulty at all. A joy.
*Don't look back, except to create an aversion to the awfulness of smoking cigs. Create one, amplify the one you've got. Yuk, ugh, disgusting nasty things. Notice what's distasteful, don't gaze longingly at those smokey huddles standing in the rain at break. Bag that stuff.
*Vape, vape vape. It's perfectly OK to live to vape for a while - successful new vapers are so into it that no one can stand us but us. Have fun!

I smoked 3-4 packs a day for decades. And the usual spiel - nothing worked, mom died of lung CA, I kept smoking, wheezing and basically killing myself, discovered ecigs serendipitously, not one cigarette since and man, do I ever not miss 'em. Not one single brief pang for years; the thought makes me ill. And I feel wonderful, love vaping, so hang in there, and we're all with you, OK? :thumbs:
great advice. printed this post for my boss. don't know how to explain it to him. kinda say's it all. hope he takes your good advice to heart.
 

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Good night, now! :)

Thanks for the advice. I've never handled quitting well either. Seems like nothing else is important except that you can't do what you NEED to do. It seems to me harm reduction was designed for people like us.

Agreed you shouldn't bug your husband. Good luck! and thanks for sharing!!!

I love the sound of my own typing, so let me expand on one of my thoughts.

The logic behind my head game with myself on quitting is at least as old as the book of Genesis: forbidden fruit is the sweetest. Whenever I've forbidden myself from doing anything, especially smoking, I couldn't leave it alone, no matter how great my intentions were. In fact, that's how smoking became attractive to me in the first place - my dad was a rabid anti-smoker. You know I had to jump in with both feet, if he hated it that much.

Anyway, I sometimes worry that people will take some of the things I say the wrong way, so I wanted to add that one splash.

Thanks! 'Night!
 
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