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They dropped a ball having it made in china , but must be getting it made cheaply to do so , if only they offered a glass tank that would really be great or even offer the extended tank kit , since the two that come with it , are not leaving Enough room between tank utlem and deck chamber they cause large slow Air bubbles to become trapped , uts why the extended out tank is better option ,
And is called bubble tank ,
it prevents the bubble [emoji3] [emoji106] wonder if 3f will offer them at a reasonable price too

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I thought the same thing, about not enough space between the chimney and the ultem hampering wicking...but in the months I've had mine, the only time I ever got a dry hit was when I've vaped the tank dry...it does wick amazingly well, I think it's because the juice channels are so big. Even chainvaping at 8 volts, it keeps up. Tank goes empty in a few minutes at that rate, though. :)
 

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But air bubbles still form especially using higher VG liquids , it might not dry hit for you but its far from free flowing to the wicks , using thinner Liquids opens up for leaky refills , since no pressure equalisation grooves on the top cap , when sealing , you should not have to flip upside down at this level an price ,

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Well that was quick ,
2 Sherman RTA Clones now on 3f vapes , one like Original v1 or same plain tanks but has 2 separate chimney's like v2 .
By Vape easy 20.99 usd
other
Looks like v2 @ 22.99usd with utlem tanks an chimneys

Spoke to 3f vapes there trying to source the Bubble tank extension kit ,they said if can find a suitable supplier they will have it listed in next 5days or later ,
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There actually selling the whole tank Clones with 2 sizes cheaper than pj vapes sells just the utlem bubble tank an drip tip , which to be honest is seriously over priced for a little utlem , thats cheap as hell 35usd then shipping , for maybe 4 dollars worth of moulded utlem plastic I hope 3f can source it , they will sell fast , I expect these Sherman's to go quick too , even Original owners can buy fir spares at these prices for tanks an chimney parts ,

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never heard of vape easy, but they say it is 1:1 which would basically mean same factory or a lie :D Doesn't even come with PEI stuff so how can it be 1:1? and it does not seem to be v1.
Who cares ,?
I suppose some one will buy it i expect , then post about it
I have Original V1 version with chimney that unscew,s
or supposed to that actually jams from crappy burrs left inbetween the threads ,
Waited over 3 months for the parts,to be replaced
So if a clone can come along with better threads at 1/3 of the price ,
wether its made in same factory or not ? Who knows, possibly is Or some one has passed off an sold the specs,

But also begs the question how much where the Authentic's made for ,
Seems to be cheaply made,
It was As for as I know full of flaws on V1,
An to speak of such on there FB page is treated with lots of hostility from the members, fan boyishly , People just want things to work as they paid for.
by the time thats fixes where sorted,
The Clones come along with the new working fixes implemented already.

So could possibly be from same factory , Since setting up machinery an making to spec , Or they are making more parts than he could possibly deal with.
So decided to sell them on there selfs , before EU TDP is enforced whilst they still can to recover as much costs as possible , idk .
they coul go out the back door to others ,

Sometimes clones come out just as good or worse
Some times better than Original versions.
Time will tell ,
when people Recived theres Im sure they will post results ,
Whats the worst . ?
Crappy threads ,
leaks, broken deck screws an such.
Which have all been reported to of happened on Original versions, on this thread and other YouTube channels an such.
So time will tell I guess,
But to pay full price an have bad threads us a bigger deal than buying a Clone ,you already have lower expectations and less on the pocket .
I have also Supreme plus,s tanks an Steam Crave
they have changed the top cap 3 times on that fixing faults but they reply / respond very quickly
3 x in as many months, to get parts done before these regs kick in
some first versions where to thin to grip + tight threads unscrewing the tank section along with top cap but they fixed it fast ,
Now the latest version has a chunkier top cap ,better threads , new Orings , and a slightly wider top tank section , also V2 25mm Supreme is coming in weeks ,

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The plastic tank is the deal killer, ridiculous charging this kind of money for a plastic tank.

I'm still in love with my Modfather, superb machining, vape, flavor and options and no cheap plastic.

If you really want to get serious, the Voltrove. 28mm build deck, 25ml juice capacity, killer flavor/performance and no cheap plastic.

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The PMMA has been replaced with Ultem. Having owned two modfathers, their build quality is no better than the Sherman. There have been a handful of issues with the Sherman, but from what I've seen, they've all been addressed, except for this guy's. Mine still works flawlessly. I much prefer the flavor on a bottom airflow tank, like the Sherman, to a side airflow, like the Modfather, but that's just personal preference. No tank is going to be perfect for everyone....that's why there are hundreds of them to choose from. Personally, I consider cloning to be theft, and won't support it, but, again, people have different perspectives. I can't imagine having this kind of debate about different cigarettes or lighters, haha.
 
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There is one big advantage for the Modfather, over the Sherman, though, and it deserves to be mentioned...the interchangeable decks....the series deck on the Modfather is awesome, using that, with the shorty kit, was the best experience I had with the MF....costwise, if you add up the tank, the extra deck, and the shorty kit, I think the MF actually ends up costing a little bit more.
 
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The PMMA has been replaced with Ultem. Having owned two modfathers, their build quality is no better than the Sherman. There have been a handful of issues with the Sherman, but from what I've seen, they've all been addressed, except for this guy's. Mine still works flawlessly. I much prefer the flavor on a bottom airflow tank, like the Sherman, to a side airflow, like the Modfather, but that's just personal preference. No tank is going to be perfect for everyone....that's why there are hundreds of them to choose from. Personally, I consider cloning to be theft, and won't support it, but, again, people have different perspectives. I can't imagine having this kind of debate about different cigarettes or lighters, haha.
It's still plastic, that's the deal killer. Paying this much money one expects better.

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Hurricane, ultem. NarTa, ultem...both of those cost more than a sherman and modfather combined....just saying.
And it's cheap that they use plastic also. But for those who buy into the hype, oh well. Kinda like those paying up to $200 for the 3D printed Frankenskull squonker.

But to each their own

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Personally, I'm totally ok with pmma or ultem. I actually prefer it. It's lighter and it doesn't break as easy. I think it's funny when the terms "deal killer" and "cheap" keep coming up with these atties that sell as quickly as they're made. Apparently, not everyone has a problem with it. Why is it "buying into the hype"? It's not hype, it's how they designed their products. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I'll agree on the Frankenskull though...And folks are paying ALOT more than $200 for it.
 

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Personally, I'm totally ok with pmma or ultem. I not everyone has a problem with it. Why is it "buying into the hype"? It's not hype, it's how they designed their products. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I'll agree on the Frankenskull though...And folks are paying ALOT more than $200 for it.
dissolving plastic in ejuice is not a deal breaker for you?
vaping plastic is cool?
 

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dissolving plastic in ejuice is not a deal breaker for you?
vaping plastic is cool?
That would only happen if you use tank cracking ejuice with PMMA tanks.

Many of us know the ejuices we DIY and/or purchase. If you put citrus flavored or banana flavored ejuice in a PMMA tank, with how well it has been documented out there for years, that's on you. It's not a hidden secret, and some ejuice vendors even notify you on the purchase page that a particular flavor is known to crack plastic.

Ultem wont crack from tank cracker ejuices, just an FYI. From what I have read, only chlorinated substances will crack ultem - and I certainly hope you're not trying to vape chloroform or bleach.

To be honest, from my standpoint - I'm more likely drop/crack a glass tank than an Ultem one. In which case, why would that be a deal breaker?
 

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dissolving plastic in ejuice is not a deal breaker for you?
vaping plastic is cool?
We'll, I suppose if I ever had that happen, it would be an issue. I've never vaped plastic either..... Except for the time the nozzle on my bottle hit the coil....Lol

I guess I'd personally be a little hesitant to vape anything that could melt or "dissolve" plastic. If I insisted on vaping a juice that dissolves plastic, I guess I'd find something with a glass tank. Or a stainless steel tank. I don't think I'd go out of my way to complain about everything that didn't fit my needs though.
 

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That would only happen if you use tank cracking ejuice with PMMA tanks.

Many of us know the ejuices we DIY and/or purchase. If you put citrus flavored or banana flavored ejuice in a PMMA tank, with how well it has been documented out there for years, that's on you. It's not a hidden secret, and some ejuice vendors even notify you on the purchase page that a particular flavor is known to crack plastic.

Ultem wont crack from tank cracker ejuices, just an FYI. From what I have read, only chlorinated substances will crack ultem - and I certainly hope you're not trying to vape chloroform or bleach.

To be honest, from my standpoint - I'm more likely drop/crack a glass tank than an Ultem one. In which case, why would that be a deal breaker?
Nope i didn't use a citrus or any other type of cracking juice, it wasn't a user error... the plastic in v1 (not ultem) or at least the batch tha i have was too thin and not suited for holding liquids.. -and let's say things as they are - this is potentially a health hazard. I personally quit smoking and started vaping as a healthier alternative and to me at least this is a big deal and a deal breaker​
 
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There has been this debate about brands of cigarettes though previously , my issue where eventually sorted , ive had Clones of Taifun Gtv3 and Vapour giants , SRv4 to try before committing to buying Original versions , Since i have a lot of mods tanks an diffrent styles to play with , I have the 30mm mod father already ,the voltrove is too big not practical in pocket for out and about ,
where as a small Vt 75 dna an Taifun or VG V4 is then when home I can go back to bigger mods an RTA,s
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